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Cali to Colo
03:09 PM ET (US)
So true! /m70042
12:36 PM ET (US)
They won't be using DOIS right now because DOIS only worked in their favor when letter and flat volumes were increasing. Everything was getting machined and everything (DPS, FSS) that went to the street didn't change your time one second. Packages were around 10-20 per route on average and 100 would be Christmas. So even at 90 seconds that was an hour and 1/2 extra at Christmas. Day to day it wouldn't make more than a 10 min difference. Now it's the other way around, low machined volumes don't lower your street time because of their stupid system and packages easily puke a big number out of DOIS assuming they actually enter your volume and not look at a hamper and guess "28".
82% Retired
10:49 PM ET (US)
Dusted off backing again I see. Big LOL.
10:46 PM ET (US)
/m70039 You're correct it's 90 seconds per parcel delivery but they recently said they are reducing the parcel allocation time in their DOIS tool from 90 seconds to 60 seconds per parcel when it estimates route street time for whatever that's worth LOL! I'm in Northern Ohio District and I think dois is dead around these parts I have not heard it mentioned in quite some time The flavor of the month is last mile or scanning failures and backing! I hear of some supervisors doing 1017b's but that's just basically chasing their tail unless a carrier arbitrarily extended his street time without authorization.

Boss B is right they have squat for you!
Edited 07-07-2020 10:55 PM
Lost in Boston
08:34 PM ET (US)
/m70037 DOIS isn't god. It is, just not our god. You're given 90 seconds per package, I believe. Carriers have mistakenly thought that DOIS determines your day. You determine your day. You notify your boss if you can return on time, not the computer program. My base number for parcels on my route is 8 (read Eight). It's minimum 8 parcels per loop now. The key to figuring out your 3996 is on an average day, count your parcels and give yourself 2 minutes extra for each one. Let them challenge you and if they come to visit, let them catch you working.Gets them every time.
Boss Basher
07:27 PM ET (US)
.01 minutes. Got 138 packages today? "You will Absorb...."

Seriously: I was a Carrier for 30 years, and they're not going to give you Squat for time, so don't even ask them. They do have a Formula, but it will reduce any "time" you're given, to a miniscule amount. Say you've got 100 more parcels than Inspection Day. To them, that should take you 11 minutes longer. Get the picture? Don't listen to them. It Takes, what it Takes.
04:06 PM ET (US)
How much time is added to DOIS for each package?
82% Retired
09:15 AM ET (US)
Interesting but useless information. It would be nice if the USPS sued the city.

11:34 PM ET (US)
The machines are all running during his shift, they clean everything during the day when the carriers have just started arriving and not much has come in yet. So he is basically there to quickly fix things that break to get them back online and keep adjusting them while they are running so they don't break or start shredding everything. The cleaning is actually done by maintenance mechanics, a level 7 that actually make about $3000/yr less than a city carrier 1.
10:25 AM ET (US)
Machines are scheduled for daily cleanings. Usually done at night
Cuda 318 (Ed White)
10:20 AM ET (US)
They do that in my facility on Tour 2.
82% Retired
10:18 AM ET (US)
Why doesn't he do routine maintenance? Mail is very dusty. The machines have to be cleaned regularly.
01:40 PM ET (US)
Yeah my brother is an ET and been one longer than I have carried. He is still working all night although he likes that now. No more kids at home. Unless something breaks most nights he is just waiting for something to break. He makes more than his supervisor does. More than the carrier supervisor does. Only the plant manager and postmaster make more than he does. He doesn't even have to volunteer for OT to beat my 12hr list annual pay and his all counts for his retirement level.
03:53 PM ET (US)
Going for ET means working nights for a long time. Every time you go up from 5 or 6 to 7,8 etc you lose seniority so you’re back in nights

Knew a female clerk who went down to custodian to avoid exceeding. She loved it. She owned the cleaning of the woman’s rooms and was valued a lot.
02:13 PM ET (US)
/m70028 yeah I could have transferred to maintenance even as early as my 7-8 yr point, even right into a mechanical tech as none of the custodians had a passing test, but just couldn't give up that seniority and think working nights is too hard on a family. Now I kind of wish I had. Would have been an ET by now although still pretty junior at our plant. The good thing now is I think I'm going to get the VOMA gig. There are actually some custodians that could outbid be if they hadn't changed crafts 1/2 way along. At out PO at least the job is listed as senior in craft, not total postal time. My route is so nice now, I wouldn't mind if I did get outbid on the VOMA but it would be a nice change for the end.
Edited 06-17-2020 02:14 PM
Boss Basher
12:20 AM ET (US)
I just got a message from a young woman I used to work with. She came into the P.O. as Carrier & worked near me. A Tiny little thing. She just transferred to Maintenance. I told her she did the right thing and congratulated her. She's been In for 14 years, LONG way to go.
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