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04:49 PM ET (US)
/m20335 well said southernclerk.

however when a national office was from san diego I knew. but then again I could be trusted.
12:29 PM ET (US)
/m20332 /m20333 Truthfully, you are not going to get much even if you knew a national officer. This is negotiations, you never show your hand to the other side. Word gets out the more people that are privy to the information. If you want to keep a secret, you don't tell anyone. The union and the USPS will present to the arbitrator. Union does not need USPS knowing their cards beyond what they've expressed in their own sit downs. And yes, the union site is secure . .. but not that secure. And if don't think USPS doesn't have someone checking these sites daily for info . . . you are mistaken.
Agree it would be nice to hear more detail, but the price to pay is not worth it.
Its not about drinking the Kool Aid. I want the union to do the best they can do and if it means I don't need to know the details leading up, then I'm good with that. Have some trust in the process.
10:22 PM ET (US)
/m20333 /m20332

this stuff is fun for me!
10:17 PM ET (US)
/m20331 I could actually reach out to a member of the executive board if I wanted to that route. I personally feel that the rank and file should be kept informed not just some of us who are lucky enough to know a national officer. Thanks for your reply, it gave me a good laugh, for you to waste your time to post that response, I feel sorry for you.
first time,only time
08:48 PM ET (US)
So easy to tell other brothers or sisters that what they have to say is nonsense, or that they whine. After 40 years in the USPS I find people like you the most dangerous. The rank and file committee won't tell you any more than the statement that was put out. We have a members only section on the APWU web page Why not put info there, for members only, not the public. Stop drinking the cool aid! We all pay the union leaderships salaries, they work for US.
04:26 PM ET (US)
/m20330 it is nonsense that you whine here when you could contact a member of the rank and file bargaining committee.

which is what I told you on the other forum!
01:04 PM ET (US)
Negotiations are over, going to arbitration now, APWU should inform the members on what was ageed to and rejected. This is just nonsense not informing the rank and file.
Stoopid Goobers
11:30 AM ET (US)
I remember back when Moe Biller was President and we used to get our news through the Union newspaper and they always told us what they initially asked for and what the USPS counter proposal was. Every month we’d get little updates but nothing of real substance.
11:12 AM ET (US)
They never do. They do not negotiate in public. This comes up every time new contracts are negotiated. If you are a new employee, this may surprise you. If you have been around a while, you've seen this before.
first time,only time
11:02 AM ET (US)
It is amazing that our Union leadership thinks so little of it's members as to not inform us of the demands we asked for or the answers from USPS. I'm sure the membership would be able to understand negotiation tactics. Each side asks for the world then if anyone on the team knows how to negotiate you compromise and reach a solution. As a dues paying member I am insisting on knowing what the offer was! If any union leaders see this please respond. It is obvious that the pres. thought it was good enough to send back to the panel. Why did they refuse to send it to the membership? Lot of questions and no answers!
09:03 PM ET (US)
It would be interesting to know what was the reason(s) that the Rank and File Bargaining Advisory Committee rejected the tentative agreement that the APWU President and Postal Service settled on. I was very surprised that there was a "tentative agreement" and even more surprised that it was rejected by the committee. What would the APWU President agree to that would not be accepted by the committee?
11:48 AM ET (US)
You'll never know any of that during talks. Union doesn't want members to know the awful ideas proposed by mgt since it'd needlessly piss off members. Their proposals always include things that will cost members money and/or benefits. And union doesn't want to publicly tell mgt all they want and will just do that behind closed doors.
first time,only time
11:12 AM ET (US)
 Anyone out there know what the APWU was asking for as far as wages, and what the USPS offered in return?
Or for that matter any major points of contract?
11:50 AM ET (US)

Trying to find out how many vacation days I have accrued. The number on my pay stub keeps changing (not taking any days and the accrual of new days is fine)without sense. Thanks.
Edited 12-18-2018 11:50 AM
06:32 PM ET (US)
be happy!
Edited 01-03-2019 11:40 AM
10:55 PM ET (US)
The Union Dog

Four workers were discussing how smart their dogs were.

The first was an engineer and said his dog was named T-square and he could do math calculations. He told his dog to get some paper and draw a square, a circle, and a triangle, which the dog did easily.

The accountant said that his dog was better. He told his dog, Slide Rule, to fetch a dozen cookies and divide them into piles of three which he did with no problem.

The chemist said that was good but he felt his dog could do better. His dog, Measure, was told to get a quart of milk and pour seven ounces into a ten ounce glass. The dog did this with no problem.

All three men agreed this was very good and their dogs were equally smart. They turned to the last man, a union worker, and asked what his dog could do.

The union worker called his dog, Coffee Break, and said " Show the fellas what you can do." Coffee Break went over and ate the cookies, drank the milk, shit on the paper, screwed the other dogs and claimed he injured his back while doing so, filed a grievance for unsafe working conditions, applied for Workman's Compensation and went home on sick leave.
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