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Larry Victor
05-16-2012
11:26 PM ET (US)
General comment
If you come to this by way of The Next Edge, I encourage you to join in commenting and dialoging in the medium of QuickDoc. If you SUBSCRIBE with your email you will be alerted to all further comments to this doc.

Thanks, Larry 5/16/2012
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Larry Victor
05-16-2012
11:22 PM ET (US)
Regarding item 177
I also note that on submitting the comment below I received an email announcing it. Thus, QuickDoc still works.
Edited 05-16-2012 11:23 PM
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Larry Victor
05-16-2012
11:21 PM ET (US)
Regarding item 177
Re-reading this tonight, May 16, 2012, many years after formatting it I realize that in processing it as I did helped me to greatly internalize Donald's message - to such an extent that I feel as if I wrote it and I recognize within Donald's words words that I continually use.

I also am again impressed by how the formatting improved my comprehension and that this first experiment in this form was not repeated, and should be.

I also note that there is almost no participation by readers, probably meaning that few actually accessed this document.
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Larry Victor
05-21-2008
06:38 PM ET (US)
General comment
The link in [6] is no longer valid.

Use this link for Donella Meadows essay on Don Michael.

http://www.gbn.com/ArticleDisplayServlet.srv?aid=1030
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Ralph Haulk
06-02-2002
06:47 AM ET (US)
General comment
 I believe there is an "elephant", but I believe that the "elephant" constantly changes due to our woeful lack of knowledge. Or to state it more in terms of philosophy, the "elephant" consists of the metaphysical and the man-made. The metaphysical simply IS. Our interpretations of it, however, are temporary at best, but always change as our general integrative knowledge changes.

 I hold stubbornly to the idea that "existence exists", even though my definitions may be flawed. This, however, is cause for hope, since freedom is embedded in this "absence of absolute knowledge".
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Ralph Haulk
06-02-2002
06:42 AM ET (US)
Regarding item 121
 Thoroughly enjoying all of this. We think much alike.

 Much of this caused me long ago to define freedom as the absence of absolute knowledge.
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Larry Victor
11-12-2001
03:22 AM ET (US)
General comment
I am returning to this important essay after the 9/11 terrorist attack on America and the American responses.

Maybe those who are dialoging on Wiki re 9/11 may wish to also dialog on this item.
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Larry Victor
03-25-2001
12:34 AM ET (US)
General comment
Donella Meadows wrote a brief essay on the passing of Don Michael:

http://www.earthdreams.net/articles/dana/2000/110900.shtml

Donella herself passed away a few months later.

Two Great Losses.
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Larry Victor
03-06-2001
11:56 AM ET (US)
Regarding item 5
I wanted to comment on my first comment to this extract, but that threading doesn't exist.

All this calls for a deep re-examination of what we "mean" by KNOWLEDGE and KNOWING (and MEANING).

I KNOW many things, but I don't attribute "universal objectiveness" to them.
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Larry Victor
03-06-2001
03:01 AM ET (US)
Regarding item 5
I have many ideas, some I think quite valuable - yet THAT to which my ideas refer - REALITY - I admit to have no sure knowledge, nor do I expect ever to have.

I take pride in my ignorance (knowing of some of that which I don't yet know - my potentials) and am thankful that there always be mystery.

It is the height of arrogance to claim that we really know anything.
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Larry Victor
03-06-2001
02:56 AM ET (US)
Regarding item 1
It is sad to report that Donald Michael died Nov 5, 2000 of pancreatic cancer. I was always planning to contact him, ever since his seminal book, On Learning to Plan and Planning to Learn catalyzed my major insights in 1975, resulting in my "Reform is Impossible", "Societal Metamorphosis", and "Emergence/Transformation" concepts.
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Larry Victor
03-06-2001
02:52 AM ET (US)
General comment
This version has a special format, which leads to many more buttons to click to make comments. If there is a list, you can comment on each item of the list - if you want to comment on the whole list, click on the button by the phrase that introduces the list.
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Larry Victor
03-06-2001
02:31 AM ET (US)
General comment
This discussion space is for comments on the document "SOME OBSERVATIONS WITH REGARD T0 A M1SSING ELEPHANT".

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