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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-27-2021
03:44 PM ET (US)
hahaha - i self voted as a hail mary and JC voted me immediately after before seeing my vote.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-27-2021
02:16 PM ET (US)
outlook not good. sorry boys, I screwed the pooch.

great job on the fake reveal dice, I thought we had 'em. Maybe a different game if we kill JC instead of nyn like you said.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-27-2021
10:51 AM ET (US)
not much to do here other than hope JC votes our way
100
dice
07-27-2021
05:11 AM ET (US)
oh COME ON!!! How the FUCK is there a shot left!!?? dammit Nyn!!! no wonder you aint even mad.
99
dice
07-27-2021
05:04 AM ET (US)
Barry I would NEVER say that to NYN!!!

Good luck id suggest youre claiming VT when you have to
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JvillPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
11:08 PM ET (US)
Sorry Dice. Up to you to bring it home Barry.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
10:19 PM ET (US)
This kill goes in as dices role

official: shoot nyn in the face

Probably no reason to search for popclaw
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dice
07-26-2021
10:04 PM ET (US)
no way i dont get lynched here
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dice
07-26-2021
10:03 PM ET (US)
i think it needs to be jc causde you cant predict where he will vote. He may go for ape he may not.

Nyn is only likely to go in two directions you or Kdels.

the only viable lynches are you kdels and ape and ape will be a hard one.


runnign the numbers

kill one tonight leaves 5
i die leaves 4
we kill leaves 3
if you survive the day we win

Probably doesnt matter who dies tonight nyn or jc. rethinking a nyn kill might be better might get jc going at ape. but that will make that last lynch harder.

just make your vote on me sopmething that cant be seen as scummy. dont delay and dont say anything other then vote dice would be my advice

i think kill nyn
Edited 07-26-2021 10:04 PM
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
09:22 PM ET (US)
Unless you think you can get out of being lynched somehow
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
06:56 PM ET (US)
/m92

you are getting lynched tomorrow, so we can kill both nyn & JC it's just the order that matters. Since nyn could have been lying about not having any more gifts she is more dangerous to us right now.

am I missing something?
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dice
07-26-2021
05:51 PM ET (US)
gotta be JC hes the wild card and he cant be lynched
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JF80
07-26-2021
03:56 PM ET (US)
Either order probably works.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
02:56 PM ET (US)
i think we should NK nyn just to be safe. Any down side to this?

then dice gets speed lynched
we NK JC

leaves ape, kdels and I for endgame.
Edited 07-26-2021 03:34 PM
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
02:52 PM ET (US)
should we off nyn instead just incase she still has gifties to give?
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
02:49 PM ET (US)
Wow I think we might win
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
02:32 PM ET (US)
any way we can explain away the bad watch result as something manipulative? probably not.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
02:08 PM ET (US)
yea it's going to be hard to paint nyn as a GF given the gift to stark was confirmed by greenpeen & stark.
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JF80
07-26-2021
01:57 PM ET (US)
Yep. Kill JC. They lynch Dice. Then kill Nyn?
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
01:43 PM ET (US)
noice - got rid of JiF

now we kill JC, right?
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
01:07 PM ET (US)
your name is showing up as lingering in the thread. not a good look.

edit: it's gone now
Edited 07-26-2021 01:15 PM
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
01:01 PM ET (US)
ahhh - yes - the doppleganger seed is starting to sprout

muhahahahaha
80
dice
07-26-2021
12:42 PM ET (US)
and kdels and ape are coming down on your side. this might work. we just need to not go stupid.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
12:38 PM ET (US)
nyn just set herself up for godfather suspicion too with protecting you so hard.
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dice
07-26-2021
12:34 PM ET (US)
dude its 2am and im in pain.
plus its probably better for me to shut up now
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
12:33 PM ET (US)
bro you can't dip out and go back to sleep in that spot. we've got jif on the ropes. that looks sus AF, damn
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
12:25 PM ET (US)
hahahah
she definitely saved your ass right there. I'm going to bust her chops on that one forever.
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dice
07-26-2021
12:23 PM ET (US)
I dont know exactly how i got nyn so strong on me this game but thank fuck i have.

She is goona KILL me after i flip tho
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dice
07-26-2021
12:14 PM ET (US)
i changed it up
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dice
07-26-2021
12:09 PM ET (US)
in case he somehow survived. I can think of two ways crushers kill fails.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
11:56 AM ET (US)
what would be the rationale for tracking 80 N2?
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dice
07-26-2021
11:51 AM ET (US)
thats a really good point. i think that makes it joat for the go
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
11:49 AM ET (US)
why would a role blocker go after dice though? I'd go after nyn or jif personally.
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dice
07-26-2021
11:49 AM ET (US)
yeah i agree the doc claim is a lot harder
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
11:47 AM ET (US)
So with option 1, you're obviously getting lynched the next day when JiF flips. I like it because he's the hardest town lynch RN.

Don't know how much I like the protect green option. Do you guys think town will buy RB? It's great if it works because we're left with both of us and that's the easiest path to victory (obviously).

May actually be a decent sell because why would scum lie about something like that.
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dice
07-26-2021
11:39 AM ET (US)
alternative is i claim doc protected nyn nyn n1 or self either or nyn n2 and green last night i think i either got RBd or there was a bus last night cause green shoulda lived.


which is better boys?
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dice
07-26-2021
11:30 AM ET (US)
if i live nyn dies so i can argue why would i want nyn dead.

here goes


laying out here so i can see it.

Im a Joat 1 x doc 1x track 1 x watch self protected n1 due to nolders VT rant and substitution, tracked 80 m2 watched green last night. i saw jif visit green.

seem right?
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JF80
07-26-2021
11:00 AM ET (US)
Or I guess JC needs to be the kill tonight. Sheesh, too many basically confirmed roles out there to give Barry much of a shot, but its not impossible.
Edited 07-26-2021 11:00 AM
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JF80
07-26-2021
10:57 AM ET (US)
Hey fellas, sorry I haven't been around. Had a busy weekend. I'm caught up on the game now. You guys gonna kill Nyn tonight? Even if she's out of gifts she's probably pretty much confirmed town, right?
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2021
08:50 AM ET (US)
you're at L1 - hopefully not sleeping
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dice
07-26-2021
03:18 AM ET (US)
here goes im going straight at jif
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JvillPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
04:56 PM ET (US)
Received
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
04:43 PM ET (US)
nyn says she's out of gifts, it doesn't mean she is.

what role is that so I can look at it on mafia scum? now that you've already done an official visit to nyn, we must kill greenpeen

*** official kill shoot greenie in his tiny peenie ***

my role is putting in the kill
Edited 07-25-2021 04:44 PM
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dice
07-25-2021
04:39 PM ET (US)

###########################
OFFICIAL ACTION

Go see if nyn will be my girlfriend popclaw

############################
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dice
07-25-2021
04:38 PM ET (US)
we have four confirmed roles tho town doesnt know it.
re Nyn a) she is out of gifts b) she thinks im town. I need that
re jif i dont believe him. With all the bps flying around i dont see a doc in this game. if there is then we were boned from the start. i am going to go at him once day starts over the ate last night and that bullshit doc claim.
greenseed as far as we know is still active. he is the biggest danger. he needs to die. he dies i claim joat and i tracked jif to green. he DOESNT die I claim joat and stuck a protect on nyn

it is important that you get in early on me if you can without seeming hurried or desperate, if things start going bad. youve laid some ground work already

you wanna put in the kill on greenie? if not greenie it has to be JC. We HAVE to get rid of one of them but green is more important
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
12:31 PM ET (US)
hmmm - so nyn gave BPV to crusher. I guess it's not just investigations she gives out. Not familiar with this role. Do you know how it might work dice? 80?

if she has no investigations left to dish out it's less important to kill her now. But we've got two confirmed townies in the field atm which blows.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
10:04 AM ET (US)
I think whatever we do it has to involve you getting tracked by GS and some sort of town reveal. Hard w/all the roles out there at this point. JiF's no pressure doc claim fucks us.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
09:55 AM ET (US)
could try for the plan I initially laid out and have you counter JiF. I don't see that working though as he had zero pressure with that reveal.

any wild ideas?
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
09:47 AM ET (US)
barry
dice

jif - claimed doc
gs - claimed tracker
JC - confirmed mason
nyn - confirmed town
ape
kdels

Let's play out the most optimistic scenario:
  • successful NK brings us to 7

  • lynch ape to 6

  • successful NK to 5

  • lynch kdels to win.


this means we have no one successfully investigate us or track us on a kill AND we manage 2 straight mislynches when you are going to get the most heat and I'm right behind.
Edited 07-25-2021 09:49 AM
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
09:41 AM ET (US)
lol - there is no way we can win
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
09:36 AM ET (US)
ok now JiF claimed doc so ...
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JvillPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
09:09 AM ET (US)
@dice yeah, you can put in a search
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
08:15 AM ET (US)
I highly doubt JiF is self voting. More likely he's trying to manipulate scum into leaving nyn alive IMO.

nyn probably gives the investigation to JC tonight, but JiF may be another option.

hell - maybe we'll get a miracle and she'll give it to you :-)
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
07:46 AM ET (US)
what is the name of the role that gives shit out? never played in a game w/that before.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
07:42 AM ET (US)
so we're going to leave a cop investigation gifter out there? when we can use the tracker to "confirm" you as doc?
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dice
07-25-2021
07:39 AM ET (US)
right given jifs post we are NOT killing nyn or him. I wanna see if he carries thru on what he said.

evil grin
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
07:38 AM ET (US)
Why do you think Ape is giving out gifts?

Where the FUCK are beaver and 80 anyway? Did ya'll abandon us?
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
07:35 AM ET (US)
He "breadcrumed" nyn definitely not being VT on D2. Then GS posted this yesterday when coming clear on his role:
I tracked the person who visited @Stark on N1.

https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/160645-...ent&comment=5018465

Stark said he received an investigation after the beaver lynch which was D1.
https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/160645-...ent&comment=5018497

It could be that two people visited stark N1 and nyn is the doc.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
07:27 AM ET (US)
We know nyn is not VT as per greenpeen. I have to go back but I thought I had that figured out better, will get back.

The popclaw search is setup as a nightly action so I don't know why it wouldn't happen?
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dice
07-25-2021
07:13 AM ET (US)
how do you figure nyn is giving the gifts? im thinking its Ape

we need to get rid of that investigation.

@mod if i put in a search for Popclaw will it actually happen? As in would a tracker or watcher see me go somewhere?
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
06:55 AM ET (US)
We could also kill nyn who is giving out investigations and confirmed town.

Greenpeen is probably going to track you tonight. So if you visit someone searching for popclaw you can claim doc. Searching greenpeen would probably be a good look. Just have your n1&n2 protects lined up to not match greenpeen tracks.

I can put in the kill.
Edited 07-25-2021 07:11 AM
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dice
07-25-2021
05:26 AM ET (US)
I DONT THINK WE HAVE ANY CHOICE EXCEPT TO Kill green tonight

and i SERIOUSLY hate caps lock!
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dice
07-25-2021
05:03 AM ET (US)
I MADE HIS LYNCH HAPPEN. DOESNT THAT COUNT??
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2021
12:08 AM ET (US)
So stark was popclaw. There goes our double kill chance.

Sigh
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dice
07-23-2021
05:05 PM ET (US)
a doc doesnt mean we cant win. we just have to work around them
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2021
11:49 AM ET (US)
trying to seed some doubt on investigation results w/potential doppleganger character.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2021
11:05 AM ET (US)
anything crazy you want to do to have fun before we lose? If they have a doc we can't win.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2021
09:01 AM ET (US)
I was suggesting that you track me and find me guilty to get town credit. I know it's better if their are two of us but I don't see us getting this down to 2-2. if you can get that town cred it may clear you to end game.

just an option we have
Edited 07-23-2021 09:01 AM
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dice
07-23-2021
08:40 AM ET (US)
because we dont know if there is a real tracker or watcher out there. a watcher in the wrong place screws us totally. if there is a tracker he sees you go nowhere ure covered and im vetted hopefully


it just means i submit is all
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2021
08:30 AM ET (US)
why wouldn't I submit the night action if you're coming in with a track on me?
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dice
07-22-2021
09:59 PM ET (US)
think it would be track and we make sure you dont submit any actions that night
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2021
07:00 PM ET (US)
let's see how it goes. not sure how I can keep from getting lynched much longer. you may want to track/doc me for town cred.
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dice
07-22-2021
05:35 PM ET (US)
swo ive been thinking thought id go with joat 1 cop 1 doc 1vigcould add 1 track and track barry tomorrow night we just make sure barry goes nowhere


vig used n2 on 80 was thinking cop used n1 on drums and maybe maybe saying the doc is a self protect

thoughts?
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dice
07-22-2021
05:32 PM ET (US)
   OFFICIAL

Check to see if 80 is the love of my life Popclaw

^^^^^^^^^^^^
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JF80
07-22-2021
03:24 PM ET (US)
Sure.

*** OFFICIAL ***

Strongman Kill: Spoot



I'll let Dice submit his action.
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JvillPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2021
03:06 PM ET (US)
Not rushing you but just waiting on you guys
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2021
01:02 PM ET (US)
ok so strongman kill spoot then?
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JF80
07-22-2021
12:10 PM ET (US)
Love it. Let's do it.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2021
11:14 AM ET (US)
i think dices plan has a better chance of success - it's more passive and town discovers it themselves. just more believable. it requires we get lucky and they track him or watch 80 but without luck we have zero shot.

he can even re-enforce that by using 1x investigation on me the following night if I'm not lynched before then. maybe we can get a mislynch on stark.
Edited 07-22-2021 11:15 AM
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2021
10:42 AM ET (US)
well dice's plan relies on someone seeing him visit you. we don't know if that's how GS's investigative role works, but it may. I think he has to live if we go the dice plan from the diceman.
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JF80
07-22-2021
10:23 AM ET (US)
Happy to sign off on any "go big or go home" plans you guys are cooking up. And feel free to submit the Strongman kill on my behalf, no need to wait for me. Did we settle on Greenseed?
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JvillPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2021
09:56 AM ET (US)
Right Barry. 10 hours from now Dice. Obviously sooner would be ideal
Edited 07-22-2021 09:58 AM
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2021
09:54 AM ET (US)
well it was 14 hours ago jvill said "it is now night" but he didn't give a deadline. Usually it's 24 hours so I'd say about 10 hours from this post?
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dice
07-22-2021
06:06 AM ET (US)
time to deadline? in amount of hours plzx?
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
10:53 PM ET (US)
has some potential
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dice
07-21-2021
10:43 PM ET (US)
  so i submit 80 as my search that way if anyone is watching 80 or tracking me i get seen going to 80

then when i have to claim i can say i shot at him his flip will show him bullet proof so im covered that he didnt die.

the flaw in the plan is 1 a cop checking me 2 there is a vig who ALSO shoots at him and he doesnt die. If jvill doesnt put bulletproofx1 but just bullet proof then im still covered
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
10:27 PM ET (US)
explain the plan again? You waste the search on 80 hoping someone watches him or tracks you? And then 80 doesn't die?
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dice
07-21-2021
10:17 PM ET (US)
im thinking 1x vig 1x watch 1x self protect

thoughts?
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JF80
07-21-2021
10:12 PM ET (US)
Jack of All Trades

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jack-of-all-trades
Edited 07-21-2021 10:13 PM
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
09:52 PM ET (US)
what is JOAT?
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dice
07-21-2021
09:51 PM ET (US)
Ape seems to be going more for me and dropping you barry
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dice
07-21-2021
09:50 PM ET (US)
im REALLY tempted to waste a search and search 90 just in case of a tracker or watcher. That way I can claim JOAT and that i shot at him
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
09:48 PM ET (US)
if 80 is the lynch tomorrow i guess people could buy me investigating dice N3. see how the day goes
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
09:40 PM ET (US)
a few people suspect you but I think you are our best hope if we try this route

can't think of any other path to victory ATM. this one is unlikely to work but has at least a small chance imo
Edited 07-21-2021 09:42 PM
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dice
07-21-2021
09:37 PM ET (US)
madly tring to catch up how fucked am i?
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
09:25 PM ET (US)
gonna be hard for anyone to believe I investigated anyone other than ape. dice won't be an easy sell either but I think it's our only hope.

unless ya'll got better ideas
Edited 07-21-2021 09:28 PM
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
09:19 PM ET (US)
so anyway - we're fucked unless we can pull off a miracle

I'll propose that we strongman kill greenpeen and then one of us finds a guilty investigation on the other after we know his reveal. Any other thoughts?
Edited 07-21-2021 09:21 PM
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JF80
07-21-2021
09:12 PM ET (US)
Yep, I can! Dunno what happened with that old one.
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Barry McCockinnerPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
09:05 PM ET (US)
80 - can you post in here?
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JvillPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
08:58 PM ET (US)
Here’s the old QT for reference:

https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/iXxSefcppXZg
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JvillPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2021
08:56 PM ET (US)
Technical difficulties. New thread for the scum team