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Requilac
02-24-2021
04:21 PM ET (US)
Well, that gamble didn't pay off. Thank you very much for running it. I think this was the first time I ever played as a Wolf. Made everything so much more tense and interesting. I will need to overthink things less in the future though, as that lost me converts on both N2 and N3.
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JeenLeenPerson was signed in when posted
02-24-2021
09:42 AM ET (US)
Honestly, seriously a good game. You only had 1 successful conversion, but it still wound up being almost to RNG between cult and another player. That's a well-performed game. Hope to play with or against you in a future game.
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JeenLeenPerson was signed in when posted
02-24-2021
09:25 AM ET (US)
FYI: the deadchat is a QT where dead players can comment on the game.
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JeenLeenPerson was signed in when posted
02-24-2021
09:25 AM ET (US)
Elenna cannot be converted because she is Neutral.
And the cult has been eliminated.

Good game, though. I could think of ways the cult might win if a few things went the right way this past Night, but they didn't. Basically it would have needed Cao to not bane Aleph (he did), Elenna to not kill Aleph (she tried to kill Aleph) and kill Cao instead, and you to convert Aleph (impossible since baned). Such could have let Aleph retribution-kill Elenna for a "everyone is dead" end-game.
But Aleph came back active overnight, and he and Elenna have a QT together courtesy of the N1 Gossip, and Elenna convinced him to kill you, so, bad luck.

But I did like your tactic. It was mistaken, but it was a worthwhile gambit with a big payoff if you were right. Cool thinking.

If you converted Cao, it might have come to RNG between him or Aleph and Elenna to determine who wins.
Deadchat: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/7fngWxUxh2xh
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Requilac
02-23-2021
02:51 PM ET (US)
To emphasize this further, I want to [B]convert Elenna![/B]
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Requilac
02-23-2021
02:45 PM ET (US)
Okay, so I didn't squirm my way out of that. Don't know what I could have possibly done to dissuade them from lynching me though.

Elenna and Caoimhin are trying to pull the wool on me. It would make perfect sense for them to throw the Cult Leader off by saying they are roles they truly aren't. And at least part of Elenna's statement is a lie, because I know that the healer protected Caoimhin and not Aleph Null N2, already showing her willingness to show deceit. And she already claimed to be a healer at first and then conveniently changed her role. And Caoimhin was being so helpful to the town that it would make him a far too attractive target for the Cult to recruit them, thus preventing them from being as useful to the town, which is not healer behavior. Being recklessly supportive of town wouldn't worry Serial Killer though, because the Cult could do very little to hurt them unless the Guard was on their side, whereas the town could more easily lynch them.

One thing is for certain though: if Aleph Null is still active, then I am surely dead by daybreak. And even if I survive the night, I will most certianly get lynched tomorrow. Either way, I need to convert someone tonight for the cult to succeed.

I am going to take the risk it and <size=3>convert Elenna!<size/> Hopefully she is expecting her "I am the Serial Killer" ruse to protect her from being converted and will be protecting Aleph Null instead.

Weave the tale, piano man: am I the victorious or the vanquished?
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Requilac
02-22-2021
02:05 PM ET (US)
If this role reveal goes through, any response I give will seem endlessly suspicious to the town, who is already against me. I am not in a good position at all, especially if the healer can heal themselves. I knew Caoimhin would be death of me! I need to find some way to squirm out of this.
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JeenLeenPerson was signed in when posted
02-22-2021
11:17 AM ET (US)
Healer can target themself. Doesn't really make sense with the fluff, but works mechanically:

Healer -- each night, you can watch over someone. This can protect them to someone to heal them if they are injured and thus block a night-kill, as well as blocking conversion. (In other words, you are a baner.) If you block a night-kill, a note is made publicly that "<name> should have died, but did not." If you block a conversion, the cult receives a message "<target name> was busy talking all night with somebody."
<size=3>You can target yourself.</size> You cannot target the same person two Nights in a row.
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Requilac
02-22-2021
11:07 AM ET (US)
Wait, I have figured out what all the roles are! I know who the Cult Leader is, obviously. AV must be the vanilla townie, because all of the town power roles have been making night actions, which AV couldn't. Aleph Null has had an uncontested guard claim, so he is almost definitely the guard. Caoimhim must be the serial killer, because the only roles left are healer and serial killer, and the healer can't protect themselves but Caoimhim was protected last night. Which means that Elenna must be the healer!

If I vote for Aleph Null, I will automatically get flagged as suspicious and subsequently lynched. It would be useless to lynch AV, as he is going to get autolynched anyway. There is no use in voting Caoimhim, because the SK is currently more helpful to me alive than dead. I need to find some way to justify a lynch against Elenna, but I just don't know what to say.
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Requilac
02-20-2021
11:40 PM ET (US)
Well, shit. That healer is a slithy one. Could have been worst I guess, because if I got night targeted then I would survive but the town would definitely know I was the Cult Leader. At least Caoimhim will definitely be unprotected tomorrow, so that is something.
Edited 02-21-2021 12:13 AM
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JeenLeenPerson was signed in when posted
02-20-2021
11:13 PM ET (US)
Conversion failed. "CaoimhimTheCape was busy talking all night with somebody."
Also, Grek is dead.

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I hope my starting the Day early doesn't hurt y'all in that it did cost you some time to chat, but it seemed like you had discussed what you wanted.
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Grek
02-20-2021
09:00 PM ET (US)
Sounds right to me, will confirm analyze Elenna on my QT.
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Requilac
02-20-2021
04:49 PM ET (US)
Okay, so the non-cultists we have left are AvatarVecna, Caoimhim, The Outsider, Aleph Null, Elenna, and Book Wombat. The non-cult power roles left would be guard, healer, and serial killer.

No point in analyzing or converting AvatarVecna or the Outsider, as they will get auto-lynched. The fact that Book Wombat is so confused that he will not even make lynch votes wouldn't make him a good cult member either, and analyzing him wouldn't help us much either if he is really this uninvolved and uncertain. I am not going to risk converting Aleph Null, as the healer would almost definitely be protecting him. Don't think analyzing him is the best decision either, as it seems very likely he really is the guard.

I think you have got something going with converting Caoimhim. He has been the most helpful one to the town so far, and I am afraid his sharpness will lead to him suspecting me. I will try to convert him.

If I were you I would choose to investigate Elenna as well. Elenna is involved, but not as talkative as some of the others, which is typically behaviour for a power role.

Does the plan of you analyzing Elenna and me converting Caoimhim sound good?
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Grek
02-20-2021
03:56 PM ET (US)
Definitely don't convert Aleph Null, IMO. The top possibilities are him fake-claiming townie (in which case he's less useful than a random pick), that he's the actual vigilante (in which case he is already doing what we want him to without being converted) or he's the SK (in which case we can't convert him). I would personally suggest CaoimhinTheCape, since he's been doing good analysis and has done well as Cult in previous Cult games.

Personally thinking Elenna or Book Wombat for my investigate target, probably Elenna. But if you have a specific request, I'm willing to rethink that.
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Requilac
02-18-2021
08:53 PM ET (US)
I suspect that Aleph Null is a vanilla townie trying to put on a show. A power role like that would never reveal themselves that soon in the game, it puts a target on their back for both the Cult and the Serial Killer. He probably wants the Cult Leader to try to convert him and waste their action. Can't tell for certain, but it's not worth the risk.
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Requilac
02-18-2021
06:05 PM ET (US)
Offing the Serial Killer like that is really putting us at a disadvantage, but if it secures my image as town to the others it will be worth it. I would advise against actually voting for them, unless the bandwagon against them gets insurmountable.
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