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03:50 AM ET (US)
Well, despite some extra paranoia that SUDK is a bomb or something, I'm just going to go ahead and shoot him to see what happens. I would really hate to lose if we pick numbers again tomorrow, we no-lynch, and then someone gets a gun. Feels super unlikely, but probably not less likely than SUDK exploding on me...

Not to mention that hey, maybe just how kmo has a working vest, maybe SUDK's is useless and he'll die immediately! XD

Kill: SUDK
Edited 09-18-2020 03:51 AM
07:13 PM ET (US)
Huh, I'm still alive. Didn't expect that. Honestly, I feel kind of bad. I don't know that I've played what I consider a proud game. I'm really glad that if I do get lynched tomorrow, it will probably finally be for a good reason. Even if that reason is "were you insisting so hard on only 2 mafia because you knew from the start?" But all of my frustration was 100% genuine I wasn't using it as a tool or anything. I felt like the ONLY reason I was going to lose is because everyone was assuming Kitsune and I had some kind of grand conspiracy going where we held back a kill, agreed that he would claim being shot, and then tried to get a single postponement on his lynch so we could instantly win along with our mythical 3rd buddy. What frustrated me so much is how NONE of this was true lol. I don't know why Kitsune claimed that. I don't know why kmo didn't die (presumably his vest). There is no 3rd mafia!! I genuinely bussed Kitsune so hard Day 2 and thought I made lots of other good points but none of it ever seemed to count for anything.

Huschel pointed out that I was suspicious for playing less aggressively this time. He's kinda right, but it's not really because I'm mafia. I was being my usual trigger-happy self for most of the game. It's more because of all the animosity which made it really hard for me to get as seriously back into it, and also I've been on vacation the past few days so drama to that degree is not particularly what I wanted. I didn't end up lynched but I think it's unfair that because I have an identifiable playstyle, it's now my duty forever to uphold that style, lest I look scummy. And I do think I've still been taking risks. I could have made decisions that made me stand out a lot less, like voting for Kitsune right away or getting on the Huschel wagon right away. But where's the fun in that lol.

Okay so, what to do tonight. I'm not sure yet whether I want to shoot anyone. It would have to be SUDK since kmo didn't die and I have no idea if a second shot would work. Shooting someone certainly would cover my back in the weird case of a no-lynch. But, would it make SUDK look less suspicious? Would kmo take it at face value, or would he go for a theory that he held back and fake-claimed being shot to try not being lynched? This is true WIFOM lol. I'm also wondering if SUDK's absolute refusal to vote for me could negatively impact him. "Maybe you really wanted to kill Huschel because you were afraid he had another bullet" or something. Also, I'm really sorry SUDK. Apparently this is the one game I read town to you, but I'm not =( .

I wonder if SUDK will start suspecting me now though. I think he has some sort of unsubstantiated suspicion of kmo but not sure where he'll stand tomorrow. kmo is equally unpredictable. I kind of just have to hope one of them votes for the other at some point.

I'm leaning toward shooting SUDK but I'm going to think on it.
01:52 AM ET (US)
Nah it's not your fault Shuhan :)
ShuhanPerson was signed in when posted
10:33 AM ET (US)
I am sorry if you are not having a good time ><;
01:07 AM ET (US)
It's okay, it's just frustrating when nothing goes right. Pretty sure I'm fucked. kmo didn't die so out plan was doomed from the start. I legit had no idea what to make of your claim that you were shot. I'm guessing you made it up but I was suggesting what I legitimately thought was the best course of action for the town. But that probably painted a huge target on my back for not bussing you hard enough. Even though I literally went for your jugular day 2... That wasn't a bluff, I was committed to it based on the events at the time. I was just ignored lol.

I also just had to step away for the last 12 hours or so of Day 3 out of frustration. I didn't even read the posts in that time other than the flip. I earnestly think I have been playing a better townie than most of the town and it's like some cosmic joke that kmo and Kirby came to the right suspects for the most absurd of reasons, and that apparently Jabberwok flipping town changed nothing. The tipping point was Kirby, having ABSOLUTELY NO SHRED OF A CLUE WHAT HE'S DOING, saying I'm the problem. His theories and conclusions are so ridiculous that he becomes unpredictable to the point of danger. So I guess:

Kill: Kirbycide

But this really is an awful game. A lot of it is bad luck probably, but I feel I'm just going along ignored while the town accidentally stumbles upon the answer in the dark and pats itself on the back. I miss the old days where people analyzed votes and interactions, thought about the scum as a team, looked for legitimate slips, and came down hard on anyone being distracting. I wouldn't mind losing in such a case. Here I feel my fate is just sealed for no real reason. I could have made different decisions, or apparently just posted twice a day and gotten away with it, but that's not my game.

For the record, Huschel is awesome and he makes the best jokes. <3
Edited 09-15-2020 01:11 AM
10:53 AM ET (US)
Sorry, Foolio. I wanted to try and preserve your standing as much as possible. I sincerely hope you can destroy this town.
02:39 AM ET (US)
Okey dokey.

Vote Kill: kmo
Vote Killer: Kitsu
12:14 AM ET (US)
Vote Kill: kmohyudin
Vote Killer: Kitsune Inferno
12:14 AM ET (US)
Alright, well, [b]Vote Kill: kmohyudin[/b]
[b]Vote Killer: Kitsune Inferno[/b]

I'll do my best to try and survive, but I mostly hope you can get by unnoticed. I think you've been pushing hard enough against me that if I go down, you'll at least avoid suspicion.
03:45 PM ET (US)
The gunsmith idea is at least clever enough to probably cast some serious doubts on the town. At least for a while? I might have to eventually still bus you but it really depends on how things go. Probably a one-time gunsmith though? Or maybe keep those specifics to yourself as long as possible.

I feel the kmo plan is kinda risky but also super fun. Getting kmo lynched might be hard but the wagon is at least a distraction. Plus ideally we'd pull off a different wagon. Kirby is a good one in my book, if anyone goes along. Would really have to play the angle that he's scum latching onto a super misguided kmo. If Sky goes AWOL again I might be able to argue that we can't carry around the potential dead weight, plus she's not without suspicion.
03:25 PM ET (US)
Another thing I said was that I had more information than others. What if I claim that I'm a random gunsmith? I can give out a gun but I have to roll a d10 to do it? That sounds ridiculous, but we are playing a Shuhan game.

The main thing working against me is that panic vote lynch on Jooberwak. I COULD claim that I saw that Jooberwak had a gun but I wasn't sure if he was Mafia or a townie gifted a gun.
03:02 PM ET (US)
The one thing we do have is the fact that Jabberwok received a gun, but what we don't know is WHEN. I could argue I received it around the halfway point on Day 1. I fired it off last night to shoot kmohyudin. My original plan was to claim that I myself was shot, but I think I made myself too scummy.

I won't lie, I fucked up. I thought they were scumtesting with their PMs. I felt like I was backed into a corner with the Jooberwak vote. It felt like no matter what I said, if I didn't know the contents of their role PMs, I was going to implicate myself.
02:58 PM ET (US)
Or received it at some point during the day.
02:58 PM ET (US)
I'm 100% with you on shooting kmo. I don't think I'll survive the next day, so I'll gladly take the shot and the bullet. I was going to lean into my vig claim and claim that I shot kmo myself, but the problem there is that claim doesn't exactly hold water.

I don't see a scenario where I can survive, unless I claim I had the gun from the start.
01:20 PM ET (US)
What a day. First of all, my honest condolences Jabberwok. I legitimately had no intention of lynching or killing you soon. I might have actually been happy to rally against Sky instead, except your claim made it hard not to want to get rid of whatever item you had. I don't know who you would have shot but we... might have dodged a bullet, wink wink.

I for sure think all roles are vanilla. The question now is whether anyone else got an item, and whether it's a gun. Multiple townies running around with guns seems kind of unbalanced. If so I would hope none of the vests actually fully prevent kills. I also would kind of hope some vests are useless and night kills actually resolve that same night. For now though I'll just assume everyone gets a day to hang around after being shot.

As for what to do. I'm trying to do the math on how not to get you lynched tomorrow, Kitsu XD. It seems like a challenge. kmo is pretty discredited but several found you scummy or questionable, and I pushed pretty hard myself. I'm worried about you trying to claim vig after that flip where Jab had a gun. I don't think anyone will believe a vig claim after that, because you made it seem like it was your role, not an item. And from Day 1. At least Jab flipped town and he didn't super suspect you?

I have an idea, but tell me if it's too crazy. My idea is to shoot kmo tonight. If he's around tomorrow, it will really confuse things. If he announced he was shot, we can claim he's lying to save his skin, we can try to get a wagon going on him, throw all his suspects into question, bring up the issue of framimg...

In this scenario I think we would be trying to either get kmo lynched (even though he's already dead) or Kirbycide. Pursuing Kirbycide seems like it could springboard off of his erratic and scummy-ish behavior but maybe focus on the fact that he literally has the same exact suspects as kmo and that he could very well be an inexperience mafia trying to get some wagons to stick. I don't know, just thinking out loud.

I am not sure what a good alternative would be. Anyone else we shoot is kind of going to clear them, unless we can try to make it seem like "some other townie must have had a gun and shot him!" but that's playing with fire I think. And no matter what we do, you're going to have to work hard to explain how you fit into it all and why it makes sense.
ShuhanPerson was signed in when posted
08:20 PM ET (US)
Ya doofs, quiet.
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