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Deleted by topic administrator 10-19-2018 12:22 PM
06:28 PM ET (US)
Oh, I'm so worried I mess up my fake claims. I'm even more worried about my loud kill, because I have no idea how it works and what I'd have to explain away tomorrow, which is uncomfortable. Optimistic prognosis if I withhold: Madge is lynched today, game doesn't end so moody is next on Sabrar's deathlist. I kill mpolo N5 and endgame Sabrar. Pessimistic prognosis: Madge is lynched today but mpolo doesn't want to lynch moody (and I doubt moody would help us lynch mpolo) so it's me or Sabrar (Sabrar might try to kill mpolo, but this is the pessimistic scenario, so no such luck). If Sabrar gets lynched, I kill mpolo and endgame moody. That's a pretty big IF though, Madge flipping town could rouse suspicion about both of us.
Optimistic Prognosis if I use my kill: Madge is lynched today, I kill mpolo and claim that moody visited him. Moody is lynched and I kill Sabrar. The massively uncertain part of this is what my frustrating telegraphed kill tells town (pessimistic prognosis is that I'm lynched tomorrow because of it). My (entirely baseless) conjecture is that I will be "seen" visiting my target with another random player (at least I hope wam isn't going to just out me next time), but who that player is makes a lot of difference. Since I can't predict that, withholding seems like the safer option.
Note: In either case, there's a chance moody has more than one "stunt double" and I have no idea how that would go down.
Edited 09-27-2018 06:31 PM
01:28 PM ET (US)
Current plan: confusion is good. I hope...
I was worried about implicating moody, because his flip would make me fairly suspicious, and I think my claim matching the D4 flavour nicely would've been "too perfect". Like "scum claiming to match the info everyone has". Of course I'd be suspicious after Madge's flip now especially since me and the D4 flavour contradict one another slightly. I probably could've found a better claim with some thought, but Sabrar would've vigged me if I stalled any longer.
Previously I thought mpolo would be my next target, but apparently it takes four votes to hammer instead of three today. I'll have to think about how that would work D5 and whether that would work to my advantage.
Edited 09-27-2018 01:28 PM
04:04 AM ET (US)
Oh fuck, I'm dumb, I forgot how dangerous mpolo's doublevote is at this stage. Ugh, so much to worry about.
03:47 PM ET (US)
If mpolo is right and the flavour text has hints in it, then I should be worried. Mine says "However, when killing your notierity may work against you." and I'm not sure I can get away with not using my kill (and thus adding a day to the game). The possible targets:
Madge and moody are obviously on the "do not kill" list, one of them will probably be lynched anyway. I'm guessing moody is the other mafia by the way, sorry for the scumreads Madge.
Mpolo isn't very active, although I don't think I can scumread him for that without massive amounts of hypocrisy. Nonetheless, he's less of a danger to me than the last two players.
Sabrar's vigilante power worries me a little, because if he decides I'm scum, I'm done for. Even if I lied about my role name, town would probably lynch me for it. On the other hand, the kill is basically lost now that the mechanics are out in the open (thanks, moody), I'm not sure even town would just blindly accept their death with so few players in the game. It seems unlikely that Sabrar would try using it again, especially since he'd need to find out our role names first (which would be obvious now).
The other people really driving the game is plytho, who has been a priority target since the word go.
So it's between plytho, Sabrar then.
04:56 AM ET (US)
I'm going to post my thoughts here for my own amusement because if I show up in Gojoe now, Sabrar will notice (bessie can post a link in Gojoe for the spectators if she wants).
If my logic in the game thread is correct, we're practically at MYLO and my best course of action is to get the other mafia lynched. This will also eliminate the possibility of getting killed by them during the night. However, it will put me in a difficult position of lone scum against three D4, I'll have to consider that while picking my target.
Edited 09-20-2018 04:57 AM
03:46 PM ET (US)
Oh Captain, my captain!
bessiePerson was signed in when posted
12:11 PM ET (US)
Sorry somitomi I've spent most of the morning trying to resolve an issue with our health insurance. In the United States health insurance is handled by private for-profit companies and don't even get me started.

jimbob is fine, there's a chance of redirection anyway. I was almost thinking of selecting a random target. Once when I was serial killer I used random.org to select all my targets. I won that game.

Sorry I didn't leave more notes in case I die. But you're doing really well and you aren't being suspected by anyone. Just keep doing what you're doing.
11:52 AM ET (US)
I'm going to submit you killing jimbob just to make sure we submit an action, feel free to change it.
08:52 AM ET (US)
Not particularly. Jimbob and plytho seem to be forming an alliance of sorts and they both read me as town but I know jimbob is sucpicious of you. And they are still the most dangerous players with their powers of deduction. Moody will probably get lynched sooner or later, Madge might get lynched too and Sabrar is a mistery.
Oh and mpolo just got revived, I don't think there's much point killing him again straight away.
Us being in different timezones makes these 24 hour nights short, doesn't it?
bessiePerson was signed in when posted
10:48 PM ET (US)
I'll be really busy tomorrow so I'd like to decide on the NK tonight. Any ideas? Anyone you feel pressured by? I'll try to do a read and post thoughts as they come to me. Thinking plytho or jimbobmacdoodle.
bessiePerson was signed in when posted
03:15 AM ET (US)
Will work on NK target analysis tomorrow, so we can get something submitted.
10:58 AM ET (US)
Don't worry about it, you're a better partner to me than I am to you.
I'm not sure if ConMan is 100% honest with us, but it seems he's telling the truth about redirects, plytho-->mpolo fits into the picture. I don't know how we could plan around a (supposedly) random redirect though...
Edited 09-17-2018 10:58 AM
bessiePerson was signed in when posted
11:47 PM ET (US)
Aargh, I'm being a crappy partner, sorry. I don't have much for you, and I've been pretty truthful in my reads, except that I believe Sabrar is scum and plytho is not. I have no idea what is going on with ConMan's power but he may be lying anyway. If mpolo was town, I think he was tracker or watcher, based on his comments about his lynch not being the greatest loss for town. My wild ass guess on heury is that he has a lie detector type power. Madge is scum and possibly Mark's partner. More later I'm swamped.
bessiePerson was signed in when posted
06:06 PM ET (US)
Don't worry about it, you're doing great, and I think everyone has a town lean on you. There is at a minimum one more scum out there (Mark's partner; per wam in bold, we will be told if a faction is eliminated). Just keep doing what you're doing, and let your reads take you where they may, even if it's to me.
05:48 PM ET (US)
I really zoned out of this game today, sorry about that.
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