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Modern Mafia - KittyCupCake/Axelrod Communication Line

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ProphylaxisPerson was signed in when posted
09-16-2019
09:36 AM ET (US)
KittyCupCake has died.

Please cease posting in this neighbor chat.
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Axel
09-13-2019
10:38 PM ET (US)
I mean, but for his claim (and Osie completely botching his ability) there is a good chance I'm arguing for Chris' lynch yesterday. I don't think Cantrip will shoot at him though for just that reason. Give him a chance to demonstrate something.
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KittyCupCakePerson was signed in when posted
09-13-2019
07:19 PM ET (US)
The more I reread, the more I hope Trip pivots and shoots Chris
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KittyCupCakePerson was signed in when posted
09-13-2019
05:04 PM ET (US)
Right, Osie was town. He could have and should have watched Meg, but scum shot there anyway. So, they either got very lucky or have something tricky.

Ascetic ninja? Maybe 1shot ninja the way this game seems? Or KJ could have multiple shots of the asceticiser and hit Meg to block interference?

In any case, me targeting Trip seems almost certain to end in the ability failing, confirming kjs power but not saying anything about alignment. Or Cantrip dying, and depending on how the result PM is worded, possibly telling me nothing at all. The only narrow situation with a benefit is Cantrip living, and his vig failing, and my chat connecting, and kj claiming to shield him. Which would confirm KJ as lying, but I really don't see all of that happening.

With Tom, he's either dead, in which case this doesn't matter, or he's alive and we definitely have more evidence about how that happened
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Axel
09-13-2019
02:52 PM ET (US)
I wonder if KJ's role could have something to do with why the scum were confident enough to shoot at Meg last night. Can't be targeted? Maybe can't be seen period?
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Axel
09-13-2019
02:42 PM ET (US)
Hrm. Maybe that means Ascetic could be the scum in this scenario.
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Axel
09-13-2019
02:41 PM ET (US)
Nevermind, Killjoy claimed Ascetic. Chris can't track him
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Axel
09-13-2019
02:39 PM ET (US)
It you target Cantrip and it fails, that does tell us something. That might be better than targeting Tom? Seems like Cantrip could be very on the table for scum tonight, given he's been hinting at this absurd role that is more than just conditional vig.

Who should Chris be tracking with his hypothetical track tonight? I would think...Killjoy? Given he's been saying how much he thinks Killjoy is scum? So, if they aren't exactly scum together, that kind of locks both of them?

Until Chris comes back and says he did something different to not be predictable.
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KittyCupCakePerson was signed in when posted
09-13-2019
01:49 PM ET (US)
I could target Cantrip to check kjs ability, but I don't actually doubt his claim at all if he's scum. I expect my ability would just fail no matter what with me not actually learning anything
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KittyCupCakePerson was signed in when posted
09-13-2019
01:41 PM ET (US)
If I was scum planning to kill you, I would probably let you know. Though, I can't imagine scumMe would have targeted you in the first place if you were on our upcoming kill list.

But yeah, if Tom is shot that's either a dead scum or at worst, more poe narrowed down. Sure, my ability fails, but it's not like it's particularly useful anyway. It's a small price to pay for covering the much worse scenario of another failed vig.

And really, what else could I even do with it? Shadow or Vez could be nice, but they're both viable NKs. Last is the only player who might have night info I could share anonymously, and probably won't be NKed tonight if town, and maybe I could get a clearer read on if he's scum, though I really doubt that.

Unless I'm missing something, there isn't a better use here
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Axel
09-13-2019
01:13 PM ET (US)
Otherwise...

Targeting Tom does nothing if he gets popped off tonight. If we're trying to double-check the existence of a re-director type role, they are presumably re-directing Cantrip again and it doesn't affect that one way or the other. The only way it matters is in the "Busdriver" case specifically? And then we know because instead of you and Tom it ends up you and someone else?

I mean, it's a win in that very specific scenario, I guess.

Maybe what you are saying about also pseudo-checking Killjoy and if he's making Cantrip untargettable so a theoretical re-direct would not work at all makes some sense.
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Axel
09-13-2019
12:56 PM ET (US)
Well, we definitely deserved that. I certainly cannot claim I would have come to any different conclusions if I was focused. I did actually forget I was still voting Osie though....

I don't suppose, if (1) you are somehow scum and (2) are planning to kill me tonight, that you could just tell me now and spare me having to do any more thinking about this game.

Than we could have a lovely chat about everything that's happened!
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KittyCupCakePerson was signed in when posted
09-13-2019
09:35 AM ET (US)
Targeting Tom is probably the most useful thing here, right?

I'm not seeing anything else particularly useful I could do.
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KittyCupCakePerson was signed in when posted
09-12-2019
10:25 PM ET (US)
That's how I'd run that interaction. But I doubt I'd be targeted with a busdrive anyway. I was more thinking that if I targeted myself and Tom, but ended up in a chat with someone else, that'd be pretty clear evidence of where interference happened. At the same time, if KJ shielded Trip, that would rule out interference on the other end. So, if Tom still survived, that's clear evidence of him or KJ lying, no mysterious outside forces possible.
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Axel
09-12-2019
09:43 PM ET (US)
Oh man, I don't know. I am actively having trouble thinking about this game right now. Seems like the kind of plan that a lot needs to go right. How would bus drive even work with your ability. You target two people, and then, one of them gets switched with someone else? But one of your targets is yourself. If you got hit with a busdrive such that abilities that target you target someone else that would mean that you would end up hooking up two other people? It gets a bit twisted.
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KittyCupCakePerson was signed in when posted
09-12-2019
01:36 PM ET (US)
Do you think shadows kj-cover-Trip-shoot-tom plan has potential? I could target Tom to detect a busdrive
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