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skunk in the grass video

Jeff TenbargePerson was signed in when posted
07:02 PM ET (US)
I would not tell the player what to do with regards to what to do with the ball. Allow them to make decisions and we then make decisions based upon their choices
LeRoy H.
10:37 AM ET (US)
I do agree with everyone, but i'm thinking that as Umpires, we are there to enforce the intrepation of the rule. We may not agree, but until it is changed, the rule is the rule.

 As a sidelight to this, out in immokalee on Tuesday with Golden Gate playing Gateway, there was a second base steal inwhich the ball arrived late and away from the bag. The short stop held the ball for several seconds ( probably 10 at least) trying to pretend he didn't have the ball and the pitcher remained off the pitchers mound. Base runner remained on the bag at second. The game came to a standstill.

Right or wrong, I finally told the short stop that everyone in the park knew he had the ball in his glove, so it was time to throw it back to the pitcher to get the game going.
Matt Hudson
02:34 PM ET (US)
Thanks for sharing the video. I despise this play... You might as well drive an ice cram truck on the field and create a distraction...At least then everybody could get a treat! Great reminder and of course it will create a debate by the coach that is on defense...
Jeff TenbargePerson was signed in when posted
08:17 AM ET (US)
This play is legal in Federation rules. Once he is "played on" by the defense, then we can rule on the possibility of the runner leaving the baseline he has established. I agree with Ray on my personal hatred of this play and what it does to the game---I would guess that most of us agree with that...but we must simply call the play. This play will almost guarantee an argument-discussion. We must be ready to verbalize the proper Federation rule on baseline, establishing the baseline, leaving the baseline, etc.
Ray Kovach
01:42 PM ET (US)
I hate this play. I think it makes a "travesty of the game" and depending upon how far the runner goes, I think we could have rule book support under the "abandoning his effort" rule.

If he makes the distance further than is "reasonable" for him to make a legitimate effort toward second, then he is out under the abandoning effort or travesty standards in my opinion.

In this video, once he is "played on" by the defense, he now must adhere to his new baseline at change of direction. He fails to do that also and I would call him out on being out of his baseline. Until he is played on he can wander.
LeRoy H.
01:38 PM ET (US)
My only thoughts were, " why did the Runner on 3rd wait so long to go" It looked like he had a better opportunity earlier.
Jeff TenbargePerson was signed in when posted
01:22 PM ET (US)

Fellas, Click to see a "skunk in the grass" video

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