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retorixPerson was signed in when posted
02:16 PM PT (US)

Two different cross-border rates to two different countries.

10 centimes Basel to Mulhouse 1872, and doubleweight 2x20 centimes Geneve to Thonon 1868.
Edited 05-11-2020 07:41 AM
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
01:55 PM PT (US)
John - All Swiss border countries reciprocated. There were different distances from the border, calculated in different ways, and rates depending on different time periods. There is a definitive book in the APRL donated by our society, if you want more detail.

Der Schweizer Grenzrayon by Hilmar Sturm 400 p. color

Other books we donated to the library in 2016 are below in case anyone is interested.

Stehende Helvetia Plattierungsvorlage 20 Rp ZNr. 86A (Werner Bensing) ........ 104 p. b/w
Stehende Helvetia Plattierungsvorlage 50 Rp ZNr. 70D+74D (Werner Bensing) . 54 p. b/w
Stehende Helvetia Plattierungsvorlage 25 Rp ZNr. 73D (Werner Bensing) ....... 104 p. b/w

Pro Juventute Bildpostkarten (Picture post cards) .......................................... 90 p. color
Pro Juventute Briefli (PJ envelopes) ............................................................ 100 p. color

Stehende Helvetia Plattierung 75D v(Karl Mannhart) ...................................... 102 p. color
Stehende Helvetia Plattierung, Retuschen und Plattenfehler 20 Rp ZNr. 86A . 232 p. color 3
Edited 05-10-2020 01:56 PM
John F. Barrett,Ph.D.Person was signed in when posted
10:28 PM PT (US)
The 'Cross-Border special' rate: Which countries reciprocated? jstrubelboy@aol.com
>>Thanks to all who responded about 'da blues'(Zum 41 & 41b)! Will take some examples to local college to use their FTIR to detect the wavelength comparisons, after we unshut-down!?
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
09:14 AM PT (US)

9 May 1899

Satigny via Geneve to Gex, France.
Placed aboard the train at Satigny, but not receiving an ambulant date stamp just the straight line, the letter went through the Geneve outbound processing where it got the Geneve razor cancel. There are fewer than 20 known transit uses of this device.
Of special interest is that this is a cross-border rate of 15 centimes to a French town approximately 20 km distant.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
09:54 AM PT (US)

8 May 1873

Colombier to Carlsruhe, Germany.
Nice blue ink including boxed PD.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
08:52 AM PT (US)

7 May 1909

International wrapper from St Gallen to Danzig.
By now everyone should be recognizing the razor cancel. ); >)
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
07:47 AM PT (US)

Hi John -

30 centimes blue - The pigment of this color blue was determined to be too expensive and only seen on letters dated during August–November 1867. The change was made to use ultramarine pigment since papermakers and printers were already familiar with the characteristics of the pigment, ie. "blue" [ultramarine] tinted paper used during that period.

The image shows a blue stamp between two different ultramarines, lower image shows blues on cover and loose.

You can pretty much assume that any date after Jan 1 1868 is ultramarine, since the blues were used up pretty quickly. Of course there will be outliers.
Edited 05-07-2020 07:49 AM
John F. Barrett,Ph.D.Person was signed in when posted
10:06 PM PT (US)
Hi All you color 'experts'! The SBK lists #41(ultramarine) and 41b(pure blue), Zumstein lists only 41, Scott lists #56 and 56a; I have about 10 examples from 'ultramarine'(various shades) to 'pure blue'; there is a substantial cat value difference; WHEN does 'ultramarine' become 'pure blue'?! The Federal Mint at Bern printed the series(Zum Spezial.), no mention of color differences. email if you wish: jstrubelboy@aol.com A bientot!
Edited 05-07-2020 07:11 AM
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
09:56 AM PT (US)

6 May 1901

Ste Croix to Bern. A post card sent as printed matter [imprimé], 2 centimes.
The card has a rough texture that obviously was not suitable for providing clean date stamps.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
11:53 AM PT (US)

5 May 1908

St Gallen to Flensburg, Schleswig-Holstein, near the Danish border.
5 centimes printed matter, prepaid wrapper.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
10:11 PM PT (US)
I used Google Street View later today and saw that the Biasca station houses a post office today. My guess it was always there and the card, as I suggested below, was processed in the post office then the train came in and the card was handed to the offical aboard the train and he did his duty.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
08:56 AM PT (US)

ai4 May 1900

Biasca to Chur received with razor date stamp.
This is a puzzling card since it obviously originated in Biasca on 3 May, stamp is cancelled, but then it has a straight line Biasca along with the Ambulant No20 which go together, if it was mailed at the station. Why the straight line and ambulant were added to the item if it was posted at the Biasca post office is anyone's guess.
My guess is that it was canceled [8pm] at the post office and hand carried quickly to the station to catch the last train [maybe]? The train clerk then did his regulation addition of ambulant and straight line marks since the card wasn't in a bag?
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
11:30 AM PT (US)

3 May 1951

Nice "maxicard" from Brigue Station Manutention [I think freight section] to a retired Railway official in Berne. I haven't checked out the date to see if it's of any special relevance.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
12:01 PM PT (US)

2 May 1881

International UPU printed matter Winterthur to Frankfort, Kentucky.
This item was a folded wedding announcement to the Superintendent of Public Instruction.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
06:57 AM PT (US)

1 May 1911

Post card boarded Tavannes-Tramelan railway destination Marseille, France. Embossed card shows difficulty person had writing on card. It appears to demonstrate that the process of embossing broke the finish of the paper allowing ink to bleed into the paper fibers.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
09:10 AM PT (US)

30 April 1877

Bern to Thun
Domestic nachnahme 10 centimes Tüblibrief uprated 40 centimes to collect 31.50Fr [ 10 centimes per 10 francs to collect]
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