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retorixPerson was signed in when posted
07:07 PM PT (US)
I've been looking at my Sitting Helvetia because my local stamp club is having a show in two weeks and I promised to create an exhibit that was not cancel oriented. The viewing audience will be local collectors and the public who see ads in the local paper. Anyway, I thought a short exhibit like this might be of interest.


The frames the local club uses hold 6 pages each, so this is a 6 frame exhibit.
Edited 07-30-2017 07:09 PM
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
07:04 PM PT (US)

While I'm going through my Sitting Helvetia I found this double weight letter to France. I like the colors.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
06:58 PM PT (US)

It's been too long since a post here. I thought I'd put this interesting letter up for viewing.
03:25 PM PT (US)
Thank you Retorix for the background! I'd always wondered if the alternate colors (such as 75a) were the result of a printing error. It's also handy to have a reference in the 20c standing Helvetia as a color reference. Thanks again!
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
09:51 AM PT (US)

A scan of another example. BTW - I don't own these, they came from auction catalogues.
This could be the most valuable perfin if you are a perfin collector. ); >)

Edited 05-22-2017 09:52 AM
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
09:50 AM PT (US)

Hi Kevin -

There are numerous shades of the yellow 15 centimes stamp ranging from light yellow to oranges yellow. The valuable orange is the same color as the 20 centimes Standing Helvetia and I think only a couple of sheets were printed in 1888. It was an inking mix up and the ink mixer thought the Standing Helvetia plate was to be printed and the printer put the "Numerals" plate on the press.

It was recognized immediately but the sheets were released anyway. Here is the 15 numeral and the 20 centimes Standing Helvetia followed by a better scan of the 15.
11:54 PM PT (US)

For reference, the back of the stamps are below:
11:52 PM PT (US)

Hi, I have a pair of Swiss stamps that I thought at first were Scott 75. Both are on granite paper. The stamp on the left (in the picture below)is lemon, but the one on the right is a yellow-orange color. I doubt this is Scott 75a, but are there known color varieties for #75, and is there any value in a "yellow-orange" coloring of #75?
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
09:46 AM PT (US)
Hi Mladen - about being a 23f, it could be but the color is wrong. It should be more faded because the "F" was on thin paper that went through the press and didn't get sufficient inking. It was quality control issue not a specific printing on thin paper. The only way to confirm thin paper is to have micrometer and know the measurements of the thin and normal paper, which is more detailed than required here.

Value - the best I can show is the Delcampe auction site in Europe:


This link places you in the middle of the 10 cent stamps an gives comparisons to catalogue values and real life asking prices. You see there is a large variety of prices - quality and wishful thing go into determining price.

02:25 AM PT (US)
Dear retorix,

Thank you for your help and comprehensive guide. I think that i was able to see the green thread in the 10 rappen stamp. Do you perhaps know the value of the stamps on the letters?

Also, couldn't the 10 rappen be Zu# 23f?
best regards
Edited 05-19-2017 03:01 AM
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
12:48 PM PT (US)

This table can be helpful when trying to identify Strubels.

Grill cancels (and a few CDS) prior to 23 May 1857. The post office banned all grill cancelers after that date. So you will only find dated stamps used after that date. Then you can use the date of your stamp to reduce the possibilities identifications.

Second step is thread color: so a green thread with a date of 1860 can't be a Munich print from 1854 that would have a grill cancel. And the opposite: A grill cancel makes the stamp an early printing, not a post-1858 for example.
retorixPerson was signed in when posted
12:39 PM PT (US)
Hi,, Maybe this will help.

The 20 rappen cancelled in Luzern is a Scott 39, Zumstein 25G. 2 clear margins.

The blue 10 rappen dated in 1856 could be one of two stamp depending on the color of the embedded thread. A 10-15x magnifier will probably be of help, even though the thread is on the back of the paper. 1 clear margin, three touching.

It is a Bern printing and first choice Scott 21 with a dark green thread (Zum 23B) or:
Scott 27 with a red thread, (Zumstein 23Cb). If you can't define any shade of red, it will be the green thread.
07:58 AM PT (US)

Hello sirs,

My late grandfather left me with his stamp collection, however in it there are two letters with swiss stamps, one is dated 1856, the other has postal stamp from 1862. From what i could gather online the stamps are sitting Helvetia, however i don't know how i can identify the print (munich a,b etc.) since the stamps are on the letters and from which i can gather that adds value.

Help would be much appreciated
Best regards
Sylvain Maltais
08:47 AM PT (US)
Hi George,

Email sent.

Thank you

George Struble
03:01 AM PT (US)
I tried to send you a reply, attaching a comprehensive rate list, and something weird happened to my message. Let's try another tack. If you send a private email to me at gstruble@willamette.edu, I will try to send the list in a private email.

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