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Grey Beard?
11:24 AM ET (US)
 anybody around lets see some info on the upcoming elections??
Edited 02-07-2018 11:26 AM
09:07 AM ET (US)
I’m still here:)

> On May 5, 2015, at 9:18 PM, QT - Grey Beard <qtopic-45-U4mNQCwueDwg@quicktopic.com> wrote:
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Grey Beard
09:18 PM ET (US)
where is every body
 we may need this soon
10:04 AM ET (US)
yes I have the same problem off and on. My iCloud seems to be untouched but that is completely out there whereas the private server is not as easily hacked so makes sense they’d shut it down periodically. As I said though in the coming days I will not be online as much. Weaning my matrix driven life to get back to living a “natural” life where a difference can be made….”on the land” and not in the “air”….we know who the prince of the air is!

> On Apr 17, 2015, at 12:51 PM, QT - Grey Beard <qtopic-45-U4mNQCwueDwg@quicktopic.com> wrote:
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Grey Beard
12:51 PM ET (US)
hey we may have to use this if the email goes bad ours we still cant send some times we can send and it goes fast you think they got it fixed and then its down well the last days
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02:17 PM ET (US)
I know a couple of people that have had their insurance canceled and they didn't even attend to sign up with obamacare... but was canceled because it didn't meet the "obamacare" criteria... but if you like your insurance carrier you can keep it ...I guess he failed to say that is only if it meets 'his" approval.

This is NOT about insurance, it is about total control and a one payer system that dictates who is treated and who isn't and also, another way to separate the people and their hard earned wages.
Numbers I've seen so far are that 100,000 have been able to actually sign up and over 5 MILLION have been canceled and no longer have insurance. Not a failure but working exactly as it was intended to.
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Deleted by author 11-12-2013 01:22 PM
10:05 AM ET (US)
I wondered why you've been so quiet:( Thought I might have to send out the ERT <wink>

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Grey Beard
01:52 AM ET (US)
looks like my email server has been down all day.
will see if anyone is watching this page.
Grey Beard
05:57 AM ET (US)
      From: Gun Owners of America
      Sent: Jan 18, 2013 12:38 AM
     Subject: Obama Goes Nuts and Offers Anti-gunners Wish List
     logo Gun Owners of America
      Obama Goes Nuts and Offers
      Anti-gunners Wish List
      Most of his crazy proposals are so extreme,
      only few of his initiatives pose serious threat
      Surrounded by child-props, Barack Obama yesterday proposed a semi-automatic ban so extreme that it could potentially outlaw up to 50% of all long guns in circulation and up to 80% of all handguns.
      Originally, Obama's allies had announced they would reintroduce the 1994 ban on commonly-owned, defensive firearms. That was until they found out that they would look like fools, since that semi-auto ban was largely the law of Connecticut on the day the Newtown shooting occurred -- and didn't cover Adam Lanza's AR-15. After that, gun grabbers just kept adding more and more guns until they would register (or ban) a huge percentage of the defensive guns in existence.
      So where are we now?
      Obama's crazy gun ban is now being denounced by many Democrats. And, although you don't "pop the cork" until Congress adjourns, it will probably take the magazine ban down the toilet with it.
      This means that gun owners' focus must now shift to the part of Obama's agenda which poses the most danger because it is most likely to move: the requirement that the government approve every gun transfer in America -- the so-called universal background check.
      All of you know why this is a problem. But how do you explain it so simply that even a congressman can understand? Let's take a crack at that:
      The FBI’s database currently contains the names of more than 150,000 veterans. They served their country honorably. They did nothing wrong. But, because they sought counseling for a traumatic experience while risking their lives for America, they have had their constitutional rights summarily revoked, with no due process whatsoever.
      You want to know something else? The "secret list" could soon include tens of millions of Americans -- including soldiers, police, and fire fighters -- with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder, and even post-partem depression. This would be achieved under the 23 anti-gun "executive actions" that Obama announced yesterday.
      Our legislative counsel drafted the Smith amendment in 1998 to prohibit the FBI from using the Brady Check system to tax gun buyers or put their names into a gun registry. But the FBI refuses to tell us -- or even to tell U.S. Senators -- how (or whether) it is complying with the Smith amendment. Why in the world should we give the FBI more authority and more names if it abuses the authority it already has?
      This is the inherent problem with any background check, where gun buyers’ names are given to a government bureaucrat. Is there any way to make sure that once a name is entered into a computer, that it doesn’t stay there permanently?
      This concern is especially valid, considering how federal agents are already skirting the laws against gun owner registration. Several dealers around the country have informed GOA that the ATF is increasingly going into gun shops and just xeroxing all of the 4473's, giving them the names of every gun owner who purchased a gun through that shop -- and setting up the basis for a national registration system.
      This is illegal under the 1986 McClure-Volkmer law, but that has apparently not stopped it from being done. If every gun in America has to go through a dealer, this will create a mechanism to compile a list of every gun owner in America. And, as we have seen with New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who has just been legislatively handed such a list, when that happens, the talk immediately turns to “confiscation."
      As alluded to above, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo now has a comprehensive gun registry. This is the most dangerous thing that New York legislators could have done -- as Cuomo has made it clear he’s considering gun confiscation of lawfully-owned firearms.
      “I don’t think legitimate sportsmen are going to say, ‘I need an assault weapon to go hunting,’” Cuomo said. “Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option -- keep your gun but permit it.”
      How nice. He’ll let gun owners “permit” their guns for now -- so that, presumably, they can be confiscated later, just as certain defensive weapons were confiscated in New York City during the Mayor David Dinkins administration in 1991.
      The Brady Law requires that the FBI correct erroneous denials of firearms purchases. And it requires that it reply, initially, within five days. According to attorneys familiar with the problem, the FBI NEVER, EVER, EVER complies with the law. In fact, it increasingly tells aggrieved legitimate purchasers to "sue us" -- at a potential cost of tens of thousands of dollars.
      Since its inception, the FBI’s computer systems have often gone offline for hours at a time -- sometimes for days. And when it fails on weekends, it results in the virtual blackout of gun sales at gun shows across the country.
      According to gun laws expert Alan Korwin, "With the NICS computer out of commission, the only place you could legally buy a firearm -- in the whole country -- was from a private individual, since all dealers were locked out of business by the FBI’s computer problem."
      Of course, now the President wants to eliminate that last bastion of freedom!
      Recently, the FBI’s system went down on Black Friday, angering many gun dealers and gun buyers around the country. “It means we can’t sell no damn guns,” said Rick Lozier, a manager at Van Raymond Outfitters in Maine. “If we can’t call it in, we can’t sell a gun. It’s cost us some money.”
      The bottom line: Our goal is to insure that Obama's politicized dog-and-pony show doesn't produce one word of new gun law. Not a single word.
      And the biggest danger right now is universal background checks -- which would create a platform for national registration and confiscation.
      We would note that, in addition, Obama is attempting to illegally enact gun control through unlawful and unconstitutional "executive actions." Click here to read about these.
      ACTION: Click here to contact your senators and congressman. Urge them to oppose the universal background check because it is a platform for national firearms registration and confiscation.
      Please do not reply directly to this message, as your reply will bounce back as undeliverable.
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      Gun Owners of America
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      Springfield, VA 22151 703-321-8585
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Grey Beards comments
The background check is voluntary and up to the dealer to decide to do it!!
 The catch is if the dealer dose not do the back ground check he is adding himself to a possible liability.
where would the government get the funds to do any of this when they are broke now?
 If the people would have Rallied in Washington DISTRICT OF CRIMINALS as was requested on 1/7/2013 and abolished this rouge government None of this wouldn't be a problem at all!
It is time folks to come and stand together and take this country back.
 THE COMMENTS OF Grey Beard are the opinion's and comments
Edited 01-18-2013 05:59 AM
09:42 AM ET (US)
The people are just discovering the true history of events that have taken place. It's been a slow progression that is now almost to the boiling point.

 It is time for the people to do what is right according to Almighty God, and not go along with political correctness for the gain of those that choose destruction over life.
Is anyone listening, can anyone see, the vine is being shaken and the future of America is being determined, will we return to freedom and liberties given to us by our Creator, Almighty God, or will we submit to a new master of tyranny?

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Grey Beard
06:46 AM ET (US)
What ever the usurper in charge or the out of control congress comes up with for gun control it is null n void.
Why should the servants we employ have any say how we protect our lives and property.
They have better things to due than wast time and money we dont have on something that will no work(gun control)?
Dose any one out there have any idea where the presidents executive orders gets any authority??
That was a provision put in the Constitution for when we are in a declared war.
FDR Declared war against the people in 1933 and every president and usurper since has renewed every so many years.
It is hi time the emergency war powers act of 1933 repealed!!
 Dont accept any gun control coming out of that cabal of criminals in Washington District of Criminals
Grey Beard
11:02 AM ET (US)
When reading this replace British ministry with the U.N. AND THE UNITED STATES CORPORATION!!
Grey Beard

We Must Fight!


by Patrick Henry


No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the house. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen, if entertaining, as I do, opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely, and without reserve.


This is no time for ceremony. The question before the house is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery. And in proportion to the magnitude of the subject, ought to be the freedom of debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country.


Should I keep back my opinions at such a time through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself guilty of treason toward my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the majesty of Heaven when I revere above all earthly kings.


Mr. President, it is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth--and listen to the song of the Siren till she transforms us into beasts, is this the part of wise men engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it might cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it.


I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the house? Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss.


Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation--the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy in this quarter of the world to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none.


They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British Ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves longer.


Sir, we have done everything that could be done to overt the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned--we have remonstrated--we have supplicated--we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne.

In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free--if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight!! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!


They tell us, sir, that we are weak--unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of Hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat, but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged, their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable and let it come!! I repeat it, sir, let it come!!!


It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, peace, peace--but there is no peace . The war is actually begun. The next gale that sweeps from the North will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
Grey Beard
10:00 PM ET (US)
you are not alone!!
12:35 PM ET (US)
 I think you are right, the problem for me is I do not have the money to take any thing to any court. Law costing about $200 per hour is way more than I can do.
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