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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07:04 AM ET (US)
You should post this on the injured forum.
Ms. ANNPerson was signed in when posted
08:53 AM ET (US)
Hello just read post and was wondering about the refund of health benefits, I, as I am sure many have been through hell. Supervisor didn't report to H.R that I was receiving Workmans comp, as result got intrim payment and 10 months of back pay at same time, now OPM is stating I was Overpaid bt $20,000. Basically forced out on medical disability retirement. So any help in getting any thing would be GREAT. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
MetooPerson was signed in when posted
07:14 PM ET (US)
BULLDOG.. i'm happy that u found a truthfully and trustworthy union rep who is different... I hope all comes out great for u.. wish they were all like your steward... please do let me know what happens and wish u they best...
BULLDOGPerson was signed in when posted
07:04 PM ET (US)
Metoo 7036: Thanks, but this Union Rep is different. We have been working with my attorney since 2010 and he's still advising me. The Union stabbed him in the back, but he's hanging in and putting up with their abuse so he can help people like me. As I said we're just waiting for McConnell, my arbitration and my court case and I don't mean to quit. We're just waiting for the new year. This steward has had my back and I plan to have his. To have a trustworthy Union Rep is unusual, but this one is exceptional. Thanks for the concern. I'll let you know when things start happening.
MetooPerson was signed in when posted
09:10 AM ET (US)
BULLDOG... Most Union Reps will not go against the union even if union is wrong.. I just found that out..
MetooPerson was signed in when posted
07:14 AM ET (US)
Wish we would hear something about the NRP class action suit...
MetooPerson was signed in when posted
07:21 AM ET (US)
TFFC7B... Have done that, that is what my grievance is about... Oh, and my EEO..
TFFC7BPerson was signed in when posted
10:45 PM ET (US)
MeToo: If you haven't already you will need to mail a letter stating that you are requesting a refund of Health Insurance Benefits. The dates you are requesting the refund for example ( 1/1/2017 thru 6/30/2017). PO will only refund the dates you request. It took 4 years for my refunds to be paid. Make copies of all letters and any letters from the PO. I also tried going thru the Union for help but ended up doing all the leg work myself. Mail your request to your local injury comp office. I hope this information helps!
BULLDOGPerson was signed in when posted
06:53 PM ET (US)
Rivkah 7028: I have an arbitration that was to take place in February of 2012 and has been postponed indefinitely. The union said that I was on 23rd on the list. The steward said this was a bunch of hogwash because there were grievances submitted after mine and were heard ahead of mine. He was going to write a letter on my behalf to the union president to have my arbitration brought to the top of the list. I also have a Federal Case to be heard after McConnel is settled. At this point I have decided not to create waves until I go on SS at the end of the year. So next year I'm going to start to force the issue. I shall contact the National Labor Relations Board and tell them everything I know about the dubious behavior of my local union. My steward will accompany me to explain what they have been doing and he is working withe my attorney. We all have the same goal, to get justice for myself and others who have been mistreated by the unions who are to protect our rights and not their AS-ES. This steward is working part time with another attorney, helping others in similar situations.
To answer your question I have had better than average success, but I also know when to pick my battles and I ALWAYS have the documentation to back whatever I say. I've been fighting my own battles when the union refused to help me with my original OWCP case. My name has been dragged through the mud and I've been black listed, but I keep fighting and they are afraid of me, believe it or not. I'm just waiting for my turn to be heard. Until then I am still a postal employee and they WILL have to deal with me sooner or later. Look up the National Labor Relations Board, see what they are about and what they can do for you. It can't hurt and with more similar complaints they will have to investigate into the problem. MAKE YOURSELF HEARD!!!!!!
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
02:25 PM ET (US)
Our local used to actually fight on behalf of injured employees, but that's a looong time ago.
Chatty KatPerson was signed in when posted
09:31 AM ET (US)
Rivka:7028 :: I use to be APWU as a clerk. NALC was the much stronger union in our area and always fought for their carriers. I didn't know if it was our branch of APWU union reps or it's entirety. I've always paid faithfully as it was deducted from my paycheck, but yet I felt screwed over and over the years i was a member, till one year I quit and dropped out when I was still working. It was apalling when our local VP came and approached me to claim I am not appreciative to get what the APWU does and offers! What?! I explained that when I needed help, nobody was available and when I did get help, my grievance was not fought, but negotiated or never moved in my favor, so I let my local know that they take lavish trips on the union expense (with our faithful dues!), and since I had dropped my dues, they will do the same as failed representation, besides, in the union rules book, it states that with or without being a member, I was still to be represented!! Not Even from the unions eye!! Sad, as we paid faithfully for legal representation and got sold out with poor selected attorney like reps, and these coworkers were people we knew!

Union Strong is NOT what we had, and it wasn't worth my dime, ever! As a matter of my own facts, in all those years, I personally needed the union To file "two" grievances, and both "negotiated", even though I had my proof and should have been hands down in my favor! To top it off, the APWU VP had the audacity to tell me that the union fights for "my" pay hikes! I explained, "No, you fight for the best interest of "your" pay hikes, and we just happen to be a postal worker, so we will get what YOU fight for yourselves!! I don't need to be in the union for pay hikes, as I know I will get equal & fair treatment as to what you all agree!" The union rep was furious as I explained u had no intent to pay for their services that are nowhere close to rendering.
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07:47 AM ET (US)
m/7023 Bulldog. Were you successful with your complaint? I've heard it's almost impossible to win a case against the union.
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07:42 AM ET (US)
For those posting about union issues, are you nalc, apwu or both? I am apwu & believe they have sold out injured employees. They want ALL work in bid jobs. I had a limited duty job taken away because the union grieved the work being given to me. I am a clerk & was doing clerk work.They are not only fighting other crafts doing their work. The po settled with the union,paid them $105,000 & took away my job.
MetooPerson was signed in when posted
07:20 AM ET (US)
I am waiting for a copy of this grievance to see how it is worded... I have a arbitration ruling that says PO will give me my job back.. when I went to enforce this Union backed the PO and I am still out of work.. I have never really lost a grievance and my union rep usually will not file a grievance for me unless he feels he can win it and he is stunned on how many he has lost for me lately...
MetooPerson was signed in when posted
07:16 AM ET (US)
its frustrating as I pay the Union faithfully every month... This is the 2nd grievance that they did not rule in my favor... Even though rules/regs state I am right... even my union rep agrees with me... I have a prior grievance the same as this one where it was ruled in my favor... how can one grievance be right and one be wrong.. I just feel that the Union is trying to protect themselves from a class action law suit if PO wins the NRP class action... if the union backs the PO it will look like no discrimination occurred...
cheatedagainPerson was signed in when posted
03:50 AM ET (US)
I will be retiring very soon. Standard FERS retirement. Not disability. And I can't wait to be out of there.

Talk about unions....mine completely dropped my case for the two years I was out on NRP. Threw me under the bus in return for favorable treatment on other grievances.

I recently went through Redress on an EEO case where I had the local union president accompany me. Not only did the guy argue AGAINST me in the meeting siding with the Post Office, but then he failed to tell me that the settlement we reached for one specific point precludes me from contesting other points that occurred before the settlement. I had no idea. He knew but chose not to tell me until after the settlement was signed.

The Post Office environment is toxic. You can't trust management and you certainly can't trust your own union. How I (mostly) survived there long enough to retire in any way I will never know. Can't wait to go.
Edited 08-05-2017 04:00 AM
BULLDOGPerson was signed in when posted
12:48 AM ET (US)
For you that do not believe the union is helping you as they should may I suggest that you contact the National Labor Relations Board. The union has been dragging their feet concerning my case. When I told them I would sue them for lack of representation the said to go ahead and they would just say it was a clerical error. However, a really righteous steward told me to contact the NRLB with my complaint and they do investigate. They will probably want to talk to you and if you are as lucky as I am your steward will come with you and explain the situation. Not all stewards are as helpful as mine. He was stabbed in the back by his own people for helping us. Hope this is helpful. At least you'll see if this helps get things moving in the right direction or back on track. God Bless!
Chatty KatPerson was signed in when posted
07:28 PM ET (US)
Metoo:7021 :: Funny you say that about the union!! I've heard that there must be some type of payout to the unions for the "non-support" and for detouring the injured. Also, it was once said that we as claimant must "retrieve" our class action from the last/original office we were employed. What does that mean? Office where we were at "before" injury, or office we worked at last? Then, it said if there was funds "unclaimed", the Postal Service would "absorb" the funds back! So, do we all send certified letters to the last office we were at before injury, or the office where we were at as a Rehab? Do we all need to go back and cover our bases? Makes us all think when we have to read between the lines!
MetooPerson was signed in when posted
05:58 PM ET (US)
Maybe there is a class action law suit thur the unions as they don't seem to want to help us.. lately I have filed grievances thur postal regs and rules pertaining to health benefits refund and surprisly unions r agreeing with PO.... really... even when postal record says to file grievances... I think union is trying to protect their butt... maybe call new York lawyers? anyone else having this problem.. getting sick of this crap....
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