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06-29-2018
02:30 AM ET (US)
Thank you for all the info and support. OWCP finally approved my rt shoulder claim. I had surgury on the 25th. I have filed a ca7 for my back pay. Do I file an eeo complaint for wrongful termination or do I file a complaint through msrb?
31337
neicePerson was signed in when posted
06-28-2018
12:28 PM ET (US)
refuseto surrender - If you work 4 hours per day, then the po will pay you for 4 hours per day and you should be sending CA-7 & CA-7a to your HR dept for the other 4 hours per day that OWCP should be paying you. If when you got hurt you were working 8 hours per day and now your doctor only lets you work 4 hours/day due to your owcp injury which has been accepted, then owcp owes you the remaining 4 hours/day. If you have a dependent you will get 75% of your pay from owcp and if you have no dependents, then owcp will pay you approx 66% of your pay.
31336
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
06-28-2018
10:55 AM ET (US)
Refusetosurrender. You may want to check out theowcpclassroom.com for info and advice. It's rare that anyone posts on here anymore who is knowledgeable.
31335
refusetosurrender
06-27-2018
03:57 PM ET (US)
Wow, reading these messages takes me back almost 15 years. I have been fighting the OWCP longer than I can even remember. Long story short, herniated a disc in my neck and injured my shoulder in 2005. Took almost 10 years for OWCP to accept my shoulder as part of my claim. I have seen upwards of 8 docs (all OWCP picks) that have declared me unsuitable to work except 1 who stated I could work for 4 hours a day. Several docs have disputed this but still I only receive 4 hours a day pay. Anyone have a case similar? Any advice? my case has gone to appeal and I was denied full disability 4 years ago.
31334
barbwire55
06-20-2018
08:32 PM ET (US)
Thanks Rivkah, also another update on nrp class action page dated June 19th
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
06-20-2018
09:48 AM ET (US)
If you go to the eeo thread on here you will get more info on the nrp including the dispute letters.
31332
CAMRYN 211
06-19-2018
09:26 PM ET (US)
Barbwire55...Thank you...
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barbwire55
06-19-2018
04:51 PM ET (US)
Camryn, I got one too. I think a lot of people did. The attorney representing the case is asking people to fax or email letter rec. to him. This was put on the nrp class action page update.
31330
CAMRYN 211
06-19-2018
04:47 PM ET (US)
Did anyone get a letter from the NRP. I got a letter from Denver saying they are disputing my claims...
31329
Lucinda
06-17-2018
04:07 AM ET (US)
I like this website - its so usefull and helpfull.

Also visit my web site
Edited 06-17-2018 04:08 AM
31328
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
06-12-2018
11:59 AM ET (US)
I recommend you check out theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com
31327
WrongedPerson was signed in when posted
06-11-2018
03:05 PM ET (US)
I have an approved claim for carpal tunnel, but OWCP has not yet approved my shoulder claim. I have had both carpal tunnel surguries but am still having issues with my right hand and elbow. When I went back to my hand surgeon he stated that the shoulder injury may be the cause of my trigger finger in 2 fingers and a pinched nerve in my elbow. What is the best way to approach this to OWCP?
31326
Georgeann
06-08-2018
07:33 AM ET (US)
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31325
D.VET nrp update
06-06-2018
09:47 PM ET (US)
Barbwire......The USPS will try and screw as many employees and retiree persons. I was told there was no work after calling out IOD ....7 years later I'm still on rolls
31324
barbwire55
06-05-2018
04:22 PM ET (US)
(addition to prev
post)The letter rec from NRP was dated 5/31/18
31323
barbwire55
06-04-2018
09:46 PM ET (US)
Did anyone else rec. letter concerning the NRP EEO?. Got one stated that my claim which was rec. is under dispute. I am under the class, sent another brief claim which is what I understood was needed since my original full claim was sent years ago. It repeated itself throughout the letter stating that I did not submit a specific detailed showing on all causes for the claim? Is this a generic letter to most involved? Of course I figured they would try to wiggle out of the years of harassment, bid job demolished and unassigned and constant grievances and EEOs.
31322
D.VET nrp update
06-02-2018
09:50 PM ET (US)
Kimmiek.....Make sure you get your due ,you already know they will try to offer less than what is due , I will not settle ,no one should . The max is 300,000 . I'm fighting for every dollar amount due .
31321
KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
06-02-2018
02:49 AM ET (US)
m/31320 D.VET- I have not but I imagine they will go the full 90 days before they even start. THIS IS A BIG undertaking and it's their own fault as they damaged a whole lot of people.
Edited 06-02-2018 02:49 AM
31320
D.VET nrp update
06-02-2018
12:02 AM ET (US)
I recieved a phone call from a law firm stating The McConnell Class action suit was finalized . And that she won , monetary payments are due on a case to case basis. Anyone under the NRP actions from 2006 to July 2011 may recieve relief.....
Has anyone recieved documents from the USPS
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-31-2018
12:47 PM ET (US)
Check out theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com
Jesse Slade will be able to answer that.
31318
Slim shady
05-31-2018
11:54 AM ET (US)
The reason why I'm asking is because I was on overtime when accident occurred management has me clocked out at my regular et. Which is why owcp wants to know why I'm working off the clock.
31317
Slim shady
05-31-2018
11:36 AM ET (US)
I'm talking about the day of the accident do I get paid while receiving treatment for traumatic injury? Basically am I still considered on the clock?
31316
neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-31-2018
11:31 AM ET (US)
slim shady - you get paid once DOL-OWCP accepts your claim
31315
Slim shady
05-31-2018
11:27 AM ET (US)
When you are injured on the job where can I find if you get paid till released from treating facility.
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-26-2018
09:27 AM ET (US)
Thanks Rivkah. Most lawyers are just greedy Kimmiek - happy your lawyer isn't.
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KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
05-25-2018
09:56 PM ET (US)
31305 Neice, I never did MSPB and my REPRESENTATIVE is NOT a greedy lawyer. I am an EEO charge which was subsumed into the NRP CLASS ACTION because of the way the USPS discriminated against me and my then 30 year career. I refused THOMAS AND SOLOMON because I already have a representative and had one this whole time. I know all about SLOW as I have been waiting for a DECADE now for the damages that caused me and my family.
Edited 05-25-2018 09:59 PM
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-25-2018
07:10 PM ET (US)
I'm happy for you. Not too many were accommodated.
31311
neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-25-2018
08:12 AM ET (US)
Rivkah - Yes, the po accommodated me and wanted me to work.
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-24-2018
06:48 PM ET (US)
Did the post office continue to accommodate you during that time and allow you to work all the hours you were cleared to work?
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-24-2018
12:26 PM ET (US)
Rivkah - My hours were reduced by my doctor though, not NRP.
31308
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-24-2018
11:49 AM ET (US)
Were you sent home or your hours reduced during nrp? 2006-2011.
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-24-2018
11:18 AM ET (US)
Rivkah - thank you, but I'm back to work full-time now.
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-24-2018
11:07 AM ET (US)
Niece If you want to know more about the nrp, go to nrpclassaction.com
31305
neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-23-2018
06:57 AM ET (US)
kimmiek - then you were part of that class action nrp case that we all got letters from Thomas & Solomon, LLP. Probably some day when your lawyer and all these other greedy lawyers take their money, you will get some back pay. I'm sure the MSPB that you filed will take some time. Since you were forced out on DR, the po discriminated against you and some day you will get your justice, but it'll be slooowww. As everything with the govt is slooowww.
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KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
05-23-2018
12:17 AM ET (US)
NEICE the NRP pushed me out- THERE is a separation caused by the NRP. I was forced into the DR but chose to stay on OWCP as I am injured and it is degenerative and needs medical attention... THIS IS PART of my lawsuit against them as they DID NOT accommodate but took away my accommodations after they pushed me into the factory with these injuries.
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-22-2018
07:40 PM ET (US)
You don't give the info needed to determine that. Did all this happen during the nrp time frame? Were you put through the nrp process that you know of? Your question would be better answered on the eeo thread or Pen nrp forum.
31302
Lostayounglife
05-22-2018
07:54 AM ET (US)
I'm young was forced out on disability at 35 have two owcp approved cases transferred to different city by the nalc which almost killed me. Took 3 1/2 years to get approved from opm which was denied twice. I won my disability through the mspb which i dud on my own am I considered included in the nrp
31301
neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-21-2018
08:46 AM ET (US)
I am not familiar with NRP. As long as you haven't retired from PO and are getting paid by owcp and the PO is putting in your leave as code 049 lwop, then all those years count towards your postal retirement as if you were still working full-time.
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KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2018
02:31 PM ET (US)
HI Topcat

I took an injury at the FACTORY THE NRP sent me too and went on OWCP- THE USPS then decided to NRP ME OUT THE DOOR. IT TOOK ME 6 months to get paid because the USPS HUMAN RESOURCES MANAGER WAS ALSO THE NRP HEAD IN OUR DISTRICT AND YOU TALK ABOUT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST... THEY FORCED ME INT DISABILITY RETIREMENT ON NOV 1st 2010. I PUSHED THE DR to the side and stayed on OWCP not only because of my injuries. now it is 2018, 8 years later. THIS HUMAN RESOURCES MANAGER/NRP CHAIRHEAD IS NOW RETIRED AS MANY WHO PUNISHED THE INJURED! I AM ASKING FOR MY RETIREMENT TO BE FIXED to this date. I would still be working for them- I lost my friends and my career and these poorly trained managers TOOK ADVANTAGE of the injured then they tossed us away- I worked 30 years and with the clock ticking now it would be 38 with overtime if they just left me alone in my modified job offer which was signed and approved.
31299
Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2018
06:34 AM ET (US)
m/31292
topcat1, So if I understand this correctly. If a person went out on OWCP is say February of 2004, all of the time that they were receiving OWCP and Soc.Sec., all of the time that they were getting the payments would count towards their retirement? Even if they weren't working but were still on the OWCP Rolls? The years would accrue towards their time as if they went into work 5 days a week?
31298
topcat1
05-19-2018
10:17 PM ET (US)
neice post 31294 owcp 049 lwop is applied while working and out on owcp,am i correct.Not for NRP'dpeople like myself since 2010 and also in SOLOMON LAWSUIT am i correct.sorry for misspelling name in my post before this one ,and thank you for your reply.
Edited 05-19-2018 10:19 PM
31297
topcat1
05-19-2018
10:15 PM ET (US)
KIMMIEK DID YOU RETIRE OR YOU STILL ON OWCP AS IN YOUR ANSWER IN POST 31293
31296
topcat1
05-19-2018
10:12 PM ET (US)
niece post 31294 owcp 049 lwop is applied while working and out on owcp,am i correct.Not for NRP'dpeople like myself since 2010 and also in SOLOMON LAWSUIT am i correct.
31295
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-15-2018
06:58 PM ET (US)
Kimmiek Jesse Slade should be able to answer that at theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com. Snowed would definitely be able to answer, but hasn't been on for a while.
31294
neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-15-2018
11:53 AM ET (US)
kimmiek - I do not know the answer to that. Sorry. I highly doubt it though if you retired.
31293
KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
05-15-2018
10:54 AM ET (US)
Hi NIECE- WHAT if you were NRP'd while on OWCP and you stayed on OWCP even though you were forced into the DR? YOU WERE ALWAYS ON OWCP though? DOES THE CLOCK STILL TICK THEN?
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-15-2018
10:43 AM ET (US)
Topcat - Yes, the years on owcp are counted toward your postal retirement, as long as the post office put in the absences as owcp code 049 lwop. The only thing I know about ss is you need to tell ss how much owcp you receive so that you don't get overpaid.
31291
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-14-2018
08:15 PM ET (US)
RIKSNY Good catch. I didn't spot that.
31290
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
05-14-2018
07:18 PM ET (US)
You have to be registered and signed in to be able to delete a message (blue star after name).
You might be able to contact the site admin & ask her to remove it.
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the word "contact".
Edited 05-14-2018 07:19 PM
31289
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-14-2018
07:00 PM ET (US)
You have to be on the same device you sent the message from to delete it.
31288
Wrongfully fired
05-14-2018
05:28 PM ET (US)
I don't know why it posted like that and it is not letting me delete it. Any help would be appreciated
31287
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-14-2018
04:51 PM ET (US)
/m31286 You should not post your name on here. I recommend you delete your message. The info on LEOS is on Jesse's website. I am a member and have found them extremely helpful. Unless things have changed, being a LEOS member is not mandatory to use Jesse's services, but they will cost more.
31286
Spam deleted by QuickTopic 06-12-2018 08:44 AM
31285
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-04-2018
04:53 PM ET (US)
Topcat. As you can see, there is rarely anyone on here that can answer most questions. Check out theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com
31284
topcat1
05-04-2018
04:09 PM ET (US)
Anyone, Post31277 of mine does anyone know the answer
31283
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-03-2018
10:01 PM ET (US)
Wrongful. I really do believe Jesse and LEOS are your best option. I find all of them compassionate, knowledgeable and extremely helpful
31282
Wrongfully fired
05-03-2018
12:39 AM ET (US)
Rivkah, the lawyer was not helpful at all. Kept telling me to call the senator, I did, and OWCP just lied to the senator and ignored all medical documentation and facts. He sent me a letter he wanted me to send to ecab stating that I was no longer represented by an attorney because I was broke and asked them to change their decision based on the fact they asked for detailed facts as to what exact task of my job caused my shoulder condition. My doctor has repeatedly stated that the repetitive motion of lifting trays and holding and sorting letters above my head etc.on a heavy 6 day a week rural mail route caused this injury. Also OWCP denied my benefits because they only approved carpal tunnel first and said after surgury then they would see what symptoms I still had because they felt I only had carpal tunnel. I still have the same symptoms and now they are getting worse. After the carpal tunnel surgury the surgeon said I could return to work with a 25 lb weight limit but he was only dealing with the carpal tunnel, I had monthly duty status reports and Dr. Notes stating that my shoulder prevented me from doing my job and gave me only a 5 to 10 lb weight limitation. I was offered a modified job offer to do my route 6 days a week with a 25 lb limit. And was to show up to work the next day. I called the union rep and he had me write a letter stating that I was neither accepting or denying the job offer based on the fact that OWCP and the USPS was not acknowledging my shoulder injury and gave them a copy of my dr note stating that I had a 5 to 10 lb weight limitation. My post master said what I gave her was sufficient. And then I got a letter saying I refuse to work and was cut off and denied. I have tried to apply for disability retirement and the USPS sent back my supervisor statement and said to apply through opm. I took it in to my office and said I was applying to opm and the post master refused to fill out the paperwork. I have been totally blackballed at my office. I have no money, and am losing my house because a fellow employee made a false complaint and the post master said I needed to learn to get along. I find it ridiculous that there is no help for me when I did nothing wrong but work for 15 yrs in a crappy office.
31281
Willa
05-02-2018
05:00 PM ET (US)
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31280
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-01-2018
06:29 PM ET (US)
You may also want to try posting on Federal Soup. There forums are much more active than this one.
31279
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
05-01-2018
06:20 PM ET (US)
Wrongfully fired. There has not been anybody on here in quite some time who can answer your questions. Your situation sounds complicated since you said you were fired. Jesse Slade is the most knowledgeable one out there with owcp. I am a member of LEOS and have found them extremely helpful, but my situation is different than yours. They do have attorneys who work with DR and eeo at discounted rates and many services are included in the monthly fee. They can also file grievances on your behalf.

What does your lawyer say? Have they been helpful.
31278
Wrongfully fired
05-01-2018
02:55 PM ET (US)
Ok, so I applied for disability retirement, and was told that I was separated from the USPS for more than 30 days to apply through opm. So I did, and I sent the supervisor statement for the USPS to fill out and they refused to fill it out and sent it back with a letter saying I had to apply through opm. So i send all of this to opm, and they send me a letter stating i had 30 days to get the supervisor statement filled out or I would be denied. I called and explained that both my supervisor in my office and hr have both refused to fill out this paperwork what do I do? They told me that it was my responsibility to get the supervisor to fill it out. I said how do i do that when i have sent it to hr certified,had it returned, and went into my office several times and was told by my post master that she was not filling anything out, that i didnt work there and was fired. Their response was they will send an email, but they never get a positive reply and to wait 2 weeks for a letter stating whether or not I will be approved for disability. This is ridiculous, I have followed every rule, every treatment plan, and even hired a lawyer and here I sit no money, no benefits, no job, no home, no nothing. I have contacted Jesse Slade and her only advice is to pay for a monthly service, but I am leary because it seems I keep paying out money I don't have just to get stalled longer and be in worse shape than before. How do we rectify this problem when no one gives you a straight answer, OWCP and the USPS ignore medical reports, lawyers, and senators? It seems that there is no one whom is really there to protect us workers. I have contacted my senators office and even they say there is nothing they can do and I am just at the mercy of the USPS and OWCP. I have sent in yet another reconsideration with a new more detailed Dr. Narrative and after 63 days of waiting I am told I should get a decision in 2 to 3 weeks even after asking what I need to do to rectify the issue. I have even tried getting my regular health ins. to cover it and fix me but they have delayed any treatment until OWCP makes a decision. What needs to happen? Do we go to the news? Do we protest? Can anyone tell me why we pay union dues, and follow all the rules, when there is basically no recourse for the USPS and OWCP to do the same and the union doesn't really fight for us? Sorry if it sounds like I am ranting, but I just really want to get fixed and move on with my life. I have lost everything and all I did was do my job and follow the rules.
31277
Topcat1
04-30-2018
10:50 PM ET (US)
   Snowed post..31268 1) WHILE ON OWCP are THOSE YEARS COUNTED toward RETIREment , as years served, 2)If i can collect any monies from my X'S SOCIAL SECURITY WILL THEY DEDUCT and LOWER ANY MONIES FROM MY OWCP PAYMENTS,Based on the ss payment ,and be right back where i started from
.Thanks in advance.
Edited 04-30-2018 10:52 PM
31276
Clark d
04-30-2018
10:00 AM ET (US)
Hi,What is
“worker compantion award letter “means?Thanks.
31275
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
04-26-2018
06:44 PM ET (US)
Go to theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com and contact Jesse Slade.
31274
Cam
04-26-2018
10:39 AM ET (US)
Hello we've discussed this already however the post office is giving me grief. I've been on workers comp for 5 years, in June of 2017 I was approved for disability retirement, also in June 2017 owcp sent me to a referee doctor Who of course said I was fine. I opted to stay on workers comp because it was more money, a few months ago the post office started bothering me with a modified duty position instead of delivering mail I would be doing sales & distribution, working inside. I wrote them back told him there must be some mistake as I'm retired there's been a lot of back-and-forth. Owcp said if I decline I will lose all benefits. I have an attorney Alan Shapiro of Shapiro and Shapiro in Ohio who I admit has horrible reviews but I figured he was good for letter writing and it's better to have some representation instead of none. He insists that if I don't accept the offer and report back to New York on May 3rd I will lose my disability retirement. Is this true? Also, my 13 yr old and I moved to GA 3 years ago.
31273
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
04-20-2018
07:46 PM ET (US)
Clark d see 31258
31272
Clark d
04-20-2018
06:01 PM ET (US)
Hi,please please reply me for 31257.If anyone did I might missed.please reply me again.Thanks.
31271
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
04-20-2018
10:10 AM ET (US)
Snowed. It's great to see you back here. I've been thinking about you and praying for you.
31270
neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-20-2018
07:35 AM ET (US)
mailladypostlady - When you work under 4 hours/day, it gives the post office ammunition to harass you. But, lately, what I'm seeing at post office is mgmt isn't harassing people who work less than 4 hours/day - they're so hard up for a pulse who comes to work, they're not harassing them.

If you're of retirement age, you would probably get approved for postal disability retirement easier working under 4 hours/day, plus po isn't accommodating you by letting you work the 4 hours/day that your doctor says you can work.
31269
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
04-20-2018
03:36 AM ET (US)
Dave, your lower extremities are your legs buyback can also effect other body parts.
31268
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
04-20-2018
03:30 AM ET (US)
Topcat1. /m31227
Sorry it took so long to answer. Your years count only before retirement. Once you retire DR then the only way those years after retirement count is if you return to federal employment and earn title to new annuity. Also ever has to decide on their own when it’s right time to retire. If those years added to your annuity by staying on the rolls are important and you feel safe then why retire? By safe I mean you keep your OWCP file updated, monitor it, and your agency isn’t harassing you.
Edited 04-20-2018 03:35 AM
31267
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
04-20-2018
03:17 AM ET (US)
Patrick /m31229
DR and OWCP have different offset rules and dates. DR still converts to regular at age 62. Here’s the link: https://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/fe...mation/computation/
Edited 04-20-2018 03:25 AM
31266
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31265
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
04-20-2018
03:13 AM ET (US)
Brownbomber2- /m31233
You can file a complaint with the state medical board against this doctor and to OWCP.
Edited 04-20-2018 03:18 AM
31264
mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
04-16-2018
07:36 PM ET (US)
Niece, why is working under 4 hrs a day not advised? I work only 2hrs a day! That’s all they offered me, even though my Dr said I could work up to 4 hrs a day!
31263
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Dave KirtleyPerson was signed in when posted
04-16-2018
12:31 PM ET (US)
Is the Back considered: Lower Extremity?
31261
neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-12-2018
08:48 AM ET (US)
Nicole - OWCP won't pay for the absence unless you have medical documentation explaining why you needed time off. If you're still having trouble working a full week, it would be wise to ask your doctor to also write a letter limiting you to only work 6 hours/day or however many hours you can work. Just so you know, working under 4 hours/day isn't advised [can cause postal problems].

And, yes, the absence you took would be considered an unscheduled absence. You need to ask your doctor for medical documentation explaining you will be needing to take intermittent days off due to your permanent back issue. This way you can apply for FMLA and then your absences will be protected.
31260
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
04-12-2018
06:44 AM ET (US)
Nicole go to theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com There has not been anyone on here in awhile who can answer your question. You can also go to federal soup owcp forum.
31259
Nicole
04-12-2018
04:25 AM ET (US)
I had an on the job injury May 2017 and was off work until Feb. 2018, I was given a permanent partial impairment for my back. My workmans comp claim is still active and since going back to work I had called into work under owcp, my question is can it be counted as an occurance since its covered under owcp? I had to wait almost a month to get back into the doc for him to fix my permanent work restrictions, I was having a lot of trouble making it a full week.
Edited 04-12-2018 04:28 AM
31258
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
04-09-2018
03:45 PM ET (US)
Clark D go to theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com
31257
Clark d
04-07-2018
06:11 PM ET (US)
Hi,I had job related injury on 2010.My dr was treated me for that untill 2017.he left office from January 2018 and no news about him.Other dr don’t want to see me at that office.I can’t find other dr and I wrote to owcp to send me dr’s name but no word from owcp.I need to filled out my ca-17 and need proscribed medicine what I can do?Thanks.
Edited 04-07-2018 06:12 PM
31256
Annie
04-07-2018
11:29 AM ET (US)
NRP- do I have to be represented by lawyer@ 30%?
If IRS a class action and I'm a member will I collect as an individual? Or is it an advantage to be represented by the lawyer?
> On Apr 5, 2018, at 11:53 PM, QuickTopic daily digest <qtopic-35-gdheSZgbF5c@quicktopic.com> wrote:
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31255
Wondering
04-05-2018
06:04 PM ET (US)
Thank You!
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
04-05-2018
08:17 AM ET (US)
Wondering Go to theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com You can find answers to all your questions there.
31253
CAMRYN
04-05-2018
05:06 AM ET (US)
If you dont know a doctor that does ratings for a schedule award can you ask OWCP to send you to one?
31252
Wondering
04-04-2018
11:34 PM ET (US)
Yes, I am asking about a schedule award for the carpal tunnel. I did go back to work 9 months after carpal tunnel surgery.

Five years later I got a severe shoulder injury and currently still out of work.
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
04-04-2018
07:38 PM ET (US)
Wondering. Your question is unclear. It sounds like you're back to work with restrictions and have reached mmi? Are you asking about a schedule award for the carpal tunnel? Are you currently working 8 hours a day?
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MARY MISKANIS
04-04-2018
01:59 PM ET (US)
I see -- I read your message without my glasses HA HA --- NEVER MIND THEN > On April 4, 2018 at 12:48 PM QT - Wondering <qtopic-35-gdheSZgbF5c@quicktopic.com> wrote:
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Wondering
04-04-2018
01:48 PM ET (US)
Hi Kimmiek, I am not working due to a surgery injury. I don't quite understand you answer.
31248
KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
04-04-2018
01:12 PM ET (US)
HI Wondering- If you doctor says you can- You need to see what permanent restrictions you have and make the request to USPS and OWCP after your doctor clears you for duty. I believe OWCP helps get you back in once the doctor says you can return to work.
31247
wondering
04-04-2018
01:09 PM ET (US)
I have a question? I currently receiving owcp benefits since 2015 related to a server shoulder injury. In 2005 I had surgery for carpal tunnel syndrome, and after being out on owcp for nine months I returned back to work!
I have reached maximum medical for carpal tunnel can I put in a claim? Thank You!
31246
CAMRYN
04-04-2018
01:34 AM ET (US)
Rivkah....THANK YOU..
31245
barbwire55
04-02-2018
08:30 PM ET (US)
Well, I gathered my foot tall stack of files (EEO's and grievances) and bit the bullet, and sent hopefully what they needed, keeping fingers crossed that this will finally resolve itself.
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
04-02-2018
06:16 PM ET (US)
Barbwire.That is exactly what the po is hoping for. People giving up.
31243
barbwire55
03-31-2018
04:34 PM ET (US)
Rec. claim form also, really don't what to do either. I'm in class suit (I think) is this just for individual claim or overall claims. Got letter from attorneys office handling this, but they expect 30% cut of rec. funds if u let them represent u. I thought all this was over with, I hate to start looking for old files and grievances from years back, been retired now for 7 yrs and this is still not over with!!! This is the main reason I took early retirement to get away from postal harassment!
31242
Annie
03-28-2018
03:06 PM ET (US)
Has to be filed by April 12

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 11:53 PM, QuickTopic daily digest <qtopic-35-gdheSZgbF5c@quicktopic.com> wrote:
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31241
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
03-28-2018
08:39 AM ET (US)
https://www.21cpw.com/nrp-class-action-vic...ber-claims-due-now/

https://www.21cpw.com/apwu-web-article-eeo...now-to-file-claims/
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RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
03-27-2018
08:27 PM ET (US)
Go to nrpclassaction.com for information on the McConnell case.
31239
Jonnie
03-27-2018
09:34 AM ET (US)
Do all injured get a cut of the nrp settlement, or just those who submit a claim?
31238
Camryn
03-26-2018
10:24 PM ET (US)
Did anyone get a claim form for the NRP Class Action?
31237
carol dutton
03-23-2018
03:33 PM ET (US)
http://story.signsinmonterey.com
Carol Dutton
31236
Georgeann
03-23-2018
10:02 AM ET (US)
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31235
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
03-20-2018
06:14 PM ET (US)
Brownbomber You can also contact Jesse Slade at theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com
31234
Patrick A
03-19-2018
04:59 PM ET (US)
/m31233
Brownbomber
I don't know where you're located but I would say give these folks a call; Brown & Goodkin (805) 496-9777. Call and ask to speak to Erika. She's a paralegal and she's great.
sbrownesq@federal-law.com
dgoodkinesq@federal-law.com
erika@federal-law.com
31233
Brownbomber2
03-19-2018
01:36 PM ET (US)
Boy, just when I thought I had put all of this stuff behind me, I get a certified letter from the Department of Labor. I filed for a hearing a couple of years ago about the decision from OWCP. I figured it was all done and they just forgot about it. The judge in DC remanded the case back to OWCP for a review. When I read why they did it really set me off. The OWCP doctor literally lied in his statement to them. I had two peroneal tendons that tore in my right foot, one was removed and the other repaired. This doctor told them I had tendonitis not torn when my surgeons report clearly stated what he did. I also filed an appeal on my right shoulder because they left a tear in it and said they did not want to go back in for a 5th surgery. I have no idea what he said in his report. I never saw the report from him that stated tendonitis. I have no idea how long this will take and I had finally gotten used to the idea I just got screw by them. Now it seems it is never going to end. I wish there were legal repercussions against that doctor, but there are no attorneys willing to take this for me so he just goes about his merry way cheating more postal workers or anyone covered by OWCP.
31232
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
03-16-2018
07:51 PM ET (US)
Camryn. Yes. Go to theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com for more info.
31231
Camryn
03-09-2018
03:10 AM ET (US)
Can you get a schedule award after you retire?
31230
Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
03-01-2018
08:03 AM ET (US)
/m31227
If you are a FERS employee you had one year from the date that they accepted your OWCP Claim to apply for your SS Disability. Other wise I think your out of luck if you didn't do that.
Edited 03-02-2018 03:47 AM
31229
Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
03-01-2018
08:00 AM ET (US)
/m31224
Snowed My DR went to Reg.Retirement the year I reached 65 my full retirement age. Not to rock the boat but I think your mistaken on the age offset. When I reached 65 the quit offsetting my SS and started offsetting my OWCP monies.
Edited 03-01-2018 08:03 AM
31228
laura clanton
03-01-2018
01:05 AM ET (US)
i suffered a stress fracture in which my Dr says is caused from the type of work i do, mail carrier. he gave me a boot and said i was able to go back to work with no restrictions as long as i wore the boot however my postmaster wouldn't let me come back to work because it was a safety issue to wear the boot on the work room floor and said there wasn't any work i could do as long as i had to wear the boot so i have used all my leave in Jan and now I'm not getting a check although he let a clerk work in flip flops for 6 weeks is there anything i can do to get my leave back and get a paycheck
31227
TOPCAT1
02-26-2018
10:28 AM ET (US)
 Snowed, Glad to see you still here, wish the best for all in this new year.1] My question is two parts,on being on owcp is all years accounted for in retirement while out up to the 42 years max or as long as your out all years are counted if you retire or when ever after that are counted .2]If on OWCP ,and never applied for disability retirement yet,bein g short 4 quarter for social security benifits having only 36 ,no ss monies .Should i apply for Disability Retirement Benifits now incase owcp benifits are discontinued .Thank You in advance.
31226
Postal1
02-14-2018
11:17 AM ET (US)
I have had one meeting with the VC. He said it will be difficult finding me a job since I had been in the postal service since my twenties. Before that I was a stay at home Mom. What will happen if they cannot find me a job. Also, if it gets to be too much of a pain, can I now switch back to DR even though I am in the middle of this process.
31225
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
02-09-2018
03:43 AM ET (US)
Sonsal-
Contact your union. It’s now 2018 you need a professional to review your file. You can also write to the Secretary of Labor for help or your congressman.
31224
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
02-09-2018
03:37 AM ET (US)
Postal1-
At age 62 DR converts to regular annuity and gets recalculated. You get full Social Securify. Before age 62 you get full social security too.... it is the DR that gets offset.
31223
BouchePerson was signed in when posted
02-08-2018
02:21 AM ET (US)
Dweaver. Every 28 days. Last one was on Feb3. March3. If you have direct deposit- it will be in on the Friday Mar2.
31222
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
02-06-2018
04:12 PM ET (US)
So after almost a year I have finally gotten my claims approved and one approved for monetary compensation. My question is how often they mail your check? Is it a monthly thing or bi-weekly?
31221
carol dutton
02-06-2018
02:34 AM ET (US)
http://indicator.globalhumanitarianaction.net

Carol Dutton
31220
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
02-05-2018
07:07 AM ET (US)
/m31219 The boards on the Postal Employee Network and Federal Soup are much more active than this one. I believe you can get accurate answers on them.
31219
Postal1
02-04-2018
11:08 AM ET (US)
If you are receiving OPM DR, at 62 can you get your full social security check?
31218
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
02-03-2018
05:44 PM ET (US)
Postal1. Did you appeal the ssdi denial? Most get turned down the 1st time. Now that you are over 60, you have a better chance of being approved.
31217
sonal desai
02-02-2018
08:40 PM ET (US)
Agency not given time to see dr for job review and forced me to accept or refused in the on the spot.I refused that job on 4-23-13.My benefits stops from 10-20-13.After two month passed I have no job no benefits and suddenly my employer called back and offered me 8 hours/day  work ,still i accepted with protest that I can work only 4 hours a day .I updated ca-17 that ,I can work only 4 hours a day.since 2013 I am working 4 hours a day but agency not paying other 4 hours of benefits and post office record shows that they are paying me my benefits 4 hours day.I have no clue how they showed on record different and actually I am not getting paid any money from owcp.What I can do ?

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On Tuesday, December 19, 2017, 9:07 PM, Sonal Desai <sonaldesai1357@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,My dr release me only for 4 hours/day.I have’t given time to see my dr as offered of assignment and effective work both are same dates.
31216
Postal1
02-01-2018
08:06 PM ET (US)
Thank you but I had to apply for SSDI before I got the DR. I was denied.
31215
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
02-01-2018
07:38 PM ET (US)
You may qualify for ssdi. That would give you quite a bit more than regular social security. I was just approved in 3 months.Go to https://theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com. You can get advice and help there.
31214
Postal1
02-01-2018
05:10 PM ET (US)
Hello, I was a victim of the NRP in 2009. I applied for OWCP but was denied so I settled on DR. My lawyer fought a second time for OWCP and in 2014 I was accepted. I switched to owcp in 2014. I was told to report to their doctor last month for a second opinion. Their doctor agreed with my surgeon, but said I can do sedentary work with my left hand. So Monday I meet with the vocational worker. Not sure what to expect and nervous about what kind of work I will be given. I worked at the PO 27 yrs and have no experience in other work. I am 61. I have bad hand and right arm. I have had two surgeries where I have screws and fusions. My left shoulder has a small rotator cuff tear. Going back to using my hand and arms means sleepless night and throbbing constant pain. Now that this process has started I am told I cannot go back on DR. I will be 62 in August and am thinking about retiring altogether but know it will be a struggle money-wise. Any advice? Not sure what is going to happen from here on.
31213
Georgeann
01-27-2018
10:18 PM ET (US)
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31212
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
01-26-2018
12:05 AM ET (US)
Rivkah-
Yes that is correct
31211
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
01-22-2018
11:11 AM ET (US)
Snowed. Didn't the rules change a few years ago saying whatever number of hours your restrictions allow, they only have to give you half, but no less than 2 hours a day to be a suitable job offer. OWCP would pay the rest.
31210
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
01-22-2018
12:46 AM ET (US)
Clearkd-
You can’t be given more work than the doctor allows by your restrictions. If they offer you more work and you take it then your restrictions are invalid.
31209
cleark d
01-21-2018
07:25 PM ET (US)
Hi,Anyone know that any forum for union grievance related for question and answers?
31208
cleark d
01-20-2018
11:19 PM ET (US)
Hi,I am full time employee injured at job.Due to injury limitation i can work only 4 hours/day as of ca-17 .My job should be 4hours/day as of ca-17 or 8 hours/day as i am full time employee ?Thanks everyone who answered my question before.
Edited 01-20-2018 11:20 PM
31207
Fallenstone
01-20-2018
08:27 PM ET (US)
That's all for today folks...Snowed is very knowledgeable and can hopefully clarify any confusion I mat have raised.
31206
Fallenstone
01-20-2018
08:24 PM ET (US)
Broke down /m31203...I think I saw that same Dr several years ago, or his twin. If he determines you are fit to do almost any jobs available in the PO..and your Dr disagrees you will be sent to a third Dr for a "referee examination". That examination will resolve the difference of opinion between your Dr and the "sham" Dr. In my experience the referee Dr's have been impartial and measure and quantify your disability as much as possible.

Something I have seen the PO do on "Return to Duty" job offers is insist you accept or reject the job offer at the time of the meeting. That should raise a red flag..The ELM545.33(b) that as a postal employee you have an obligation to "provide the treating physician with a description of any specific alternative position offered", which would include any proposed job offer.

Additionally the EL-505 has a checklist at Exhibit 11.9b wherein it states that the job offer must "Inform the employee of the time required for receipt of acceptance or declination of job offer before follow up action is initiated (usually 2 weeks)"

If the PO says this is a take it or leave it decision that must be made today, cite your responsibility under the ELM 545 referenced above...Additionally notify them that this is inconsistent with their own guidelines under the EL-505, referenced above.
Also if you are a full time regular, you don't have to accept a job for less than four hours a day. OWCP requires that you seek full time work not part time or seasonal work.
31205
Fallenstone
01-20-2018
07:58 PM ET (US)
Cleark d /m31202...For all things retirement related google....CSRS and FERS Handbook for Payroll and Personnel Offices...It is located on the OPM website. A "voluntary retirement" is when an employee decides to retire of his own volition vs an "involuntary retirement". An "involuntary retirement" is when an employee whom has already been separated by the PO files for retirement. It is considered an "involuntary retirement" because by law, if you don't file for retirement within one year after being separated you lose your right to file for retirement until you reach age 62. Some employees feel that the retirement was forced or coerced and therefore it is a "involuntary retirement". That argument doesn't fly. The PO will assert that you took a "voluntary retirement" and that you are no longer a current employee.

See the handbook for "Voluntary retirement," "Involuntary retirement", "Disability retirement" and "Deferred retirement."
31204
Fallenstone
01-20-2018
07:35 PM ET (US)
Cleark d /m31200...You need a Dr whom is Board certified. Usually the Dr's are member of an medical association for their specialty, ie; orthopedics, physiatrist (nerves and muscles), psychiatry etc. Call the local association in your city and ask them to refer you to a Board certified Dr.
31203
Broke down
01-20-2018
06:26 PM ET (US)
I was taken off the job in 2008 with a permanent job injury after the second opinion doctor and a Back to work assessment both stated I wouldn’t ever be fit for employment or a decent recovery. Fast forward 9 years and now yhry want another opiion, he spent 5 minutes with me only going a reflex test and asked a few questions, I've heard nothing yet but I fear this 77 years old retired Dr will decidd against 5 other Dr.s who all agree disabled.
31202
cleark d
01-18-2018
05:45 PM ET (US)
Thanks Snowed.If i retired i have two eeoc cases in front of Eeoc judge against agency and 3 claims for reconsideration with owcp .Can i continues with all 5 cases or i lost any?if i take retirement .
Also what is deference between volunteer retirement and disability retirement ?which is better ?
Also what is annuity and supplement ?how it effect retirement payment?Thanks.
31201
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
01-17-2018
06:09 PM ET (US)
Clearkd
Your doctor has to be registered with OWCP.
Edited 01-17-2018 06:09 PM
31200
cleark d
01-17-2018
12:40 PM ET (US)
Hi,My dr resigned from practice for my owcp case.Now i have to find new dr for my claim.Can i choose any dr or i have to choose dr who is working with owcp?
31199
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
01-13-2018
10:36 PM ET (US)
Cam-
There is no way they are going to hire you back for modified duty. I would talk to the union to see what they say but I can’t even imaGine...
Edited 01-14-2018 12:31 PM
31198
Cam
01-13-2018
02:23 PM ET (US)
The letter states it's a modified duty offer , once I've been reinstated as a postal employee. I trust that you're saying it probably a bluff. I sure hope they're not going to cancel my DR. I went to a referee back in June 2017, and just received the letter. Letter states referee doc says I can work with modified duty. I was a letter carrier, job offer is working inside P.O. I assume as you say, that's it's probably just to get me off of workers comp. Thank you for your help and guidance.
Edited 01-13-2018 03:46 PM
31197
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
01-12-2018
09:25 PM ET (US)
Cam-
It’s likely a bluff. If it’s within your restrictions, you will have to accept it or take DR. I seen this many times. In order to rehire you, you would have to pass physical for the job.
31196
Cam
01-12-2018
03:41 PM ET (US)
Hello, I was approved for disability retirement from the USPS approx 6 months ago, but opted to continue with workers comp because it's more money. I just received a job offer from the USPS with a start date. What is going on, they can't force me to go back to work, can they? Is this a trick to get me off works comp? Please help.
31195
Sonal Desai
01-12-2018
12:26 PM ET (US)
Ok.Thank you so much.
31194
neicePerson was signed in when posted
01-12-2018
12:23 PM ET (US)
cleark d - If your reconsideration appeal was not timely and then you filed an ECAB appeal about the untimely reconsideration appeal and ECAB decision said your reconsideration appeal was untimely, then that's the final word.

If the union rep. helped you with your reconsideration appeal and it was the union rep's fault for having you file it late, then you could file a complaint with NLRB about the union rep., but it sounds from your messages, that the reconsideration was untimely.

MSPB is used if you have been terminated from your job, if you have recovered from your work injury and agency won't let you back, retirement appeals and other items. I don't know if you have been fired from your job and/or if you've recovered from work injury and agency won't let you back.
31193
cleark d
01-12-2018
12:09 PM ET (US)
Thanks Neice.I did ECAB appel in time one of reconsideration before ECAB was not on time .This is ECAB desicion why it mix up with reconsideration ?which was past?can i go to MSPB OR NLRB?Thanks.
31192
neicePerson was signed in when posted
01-12-2018
11:46 AM ET (US)
cleark d - I didn't say you could go to court. You can't. If ECAB didn't give you the option to appeal their decision, then you are out of luck if your appeal was not timely filed. If you didn't file your appeal timely and you didn't have a valid reason for filing late, then it's done. There is no court. The highest court dealing with owcp is the ECAB.
31191
cleark d
01-12-2018
11:32 AM ET (US)
Hi,Thanks Neice.Can i go court?which court ? how i know?i have no money to hire an attorney .Can i get
help for attorney from court ?How i can sue?should i go against in court post office or Ecab owcp?what is time limit to go on court ?please help me with all information .Thanks.
31190
neicePerson was signed in when posted
01-12-2018
08:43 AM ET (US)
cleark d - It's odd no one at the practice knows where your doctor moved to. If you tell the office mgr that you just need the old dr to write you a referral to a different doctor at that practice, maybe they'll let you know where he went. You also can try calling the state regulatory dept and asking them where your doctor went. If you can't find him, maybe he retired, you will have to write to owcp requesting a new doctor like Snowed said.

ECAB is the final decision, but sometimes ECAB gives you the option to file an appeal and if they do, it will be in the decision near the bottom of the decision. If you were late in filing your ECAB appeal, then you are more than likely out of luck. There will be no next step.
31189
cleark d
01-12-2018
12:36 AM ET (US)
Thank you snowed .
31188
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
01-12-2018
12:05 AM ET (US)
Clearkd-
You might be ok with the same practice but different doctor but generally when you switch doctors you either need a referral from your old doctor or request a new doctor and explain why to OWCP in writing.
31187
cleark d
01-11-2018
07:39 PM ET (US)
Hi,Neice,sorry i am asking for your answer 31181 again.I have no clue where his new office? or what is his new plan? I asked his old office but they have no answer . In this condition what are my options?I need to update my ca-17 .Thanks.
31186
cleark d
01-11-2018
07:33 PM ET (US)
Hi,I received ECAB desicion with order.It sounds like i fail to file in time it means not in my favour.
what is next step for me?can i reopen case again?what is procedure for it?please let me know all my options.Thanks.
31185
PatrickA
12-29-2017
05:59 PM ET (US)
Roger
Steven E. Brown
1-805-496-9777
Brown & Goodkin
31184
Roger
12-29-2017
05:43 PM ET (US)
Does anyone know of a good federal lawyer for being falsey accussed and being given a purposal letter of down grade and 14 days suspension.
31183
Wrongfully fired
12-29-2017
03:00 PM ET (US)
I contacted Jesse and her suggestion was to sign up for a legal service her fb advertises and start over on my medical evidence. This is the 4th Dr. that I have seen and OWCP gives them the run around, doesnt pay their bills until they tell me to hire a lawyer and drop me. The surgeon I have now is in the same office as my hand surgeon that OWCP approved for my carpal tunnel so I know he is writing a proper narrative. OWCP is asking for a minute by minute narrative and my Dr. won't go that in depth because he shouldn't have to just to not get paid. He has rewritten my narrative 4 times on the 2 yrs I have been seeing him and every time OWCP just denies it saying it is not specific enough. I am waiting for the Dr. to rewrite the narrative again adding the phrase I have reviewed my job duties and ... Has anyone used this legal service of Jesse's with any success or is this just another time and money waster? Sorry if I seem short, but I am tired of being in pain, and losing everything, and not being able to do anything about it.
31182
Sonal Desai
12-29-2017
11:17 AM ET (US)
Hi,If i am not following him what are my option’s with procedure do i need to contact to owcp ?Thanks for answer.
31181
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-29-2017
10:01 AM ET (US)
clearkd - If you're happy with him, follow him to his new practice.
31180
cleark d
12-28-2017
03:43 PM ET (US)
Hi,I seen one dr since 2010 for my approved owcp case.Now he resign from that group.What are my options ?
Can i see other dr at that group?
I have to find new dr?
I have to go with him at his new office ?
For all above 3 options do i need approval from owcp?If yes, what is procedure ?Thanks.
Edited 12-28-2017 03:45 PM
31179
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
12-27-2017
06:42 PM ET (US)
/31278 It sounds like you need a new representative. If it were me, I would not pay him to do anything else. Go to https://theowcpclassroom.blogspot.com and email Jesse Slade. Your situation sounds extremely complicated. She may be able to advise you. The ecab is your final option. Without the proper info in your file, you won't have a chance of winning.
31178
Wrongfully fired
12-26-2017
02:57 PM ET (US)
I checked and my reconsideration letter was sent directly to the board of directors Mr Tapia. They ignored all my evidence and still denied me. My lawyer has sent me a letter to send to the employees compensation board and I need someone to verify I should send it before I get screwed more.
31177
Wrongfully fired
12-21-2017
02:48 PM ET (US)
Oops. I used a different computer and it must have automatically put it in. Oh well, I have nothing to hide and no one can make my life anymore difficult. Lol No I have not sent either of the directors letters. Just found out that was an option yesterday. I will be writing those letters next. Thank you.
31176
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-21-2017
02:00 PM ET (US)
When you ask owcp to add a consequential injury, you also need to send a medical rationale letter explaining why it's a consequential injury. Then owcp will probably send you on a 2nd opinion. Did you write to the DOL District Director and Regional Director about owcp never acknowledging your medical evidence?
31175
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-21-2017
01:57 PM ET (US)
you put your real name here by accident I think
31174
Spam deleted by QuickTopic 06-12-2018 08:46 AM
31173
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-21-2017
12:39 PM ET (US)
Plus the The Owcp Classroom has a list of providers.
31172
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-21-2017
12:39 PM ET (US)
Taylor - You'll never get a claim accepted without a doctor's medical rationale. Look on the owcp acs website, scroll down to providers, and search for doctors in your area and your specialty.
31171
Taylor
12-21-2017
11:19 AM ET (US)
Niece, no it would be an occupational injury. long story. could never find a owcp doctor. kept going for treatments with other doctors who just were not good at helping me. meds, meds and more meds. could never ever live that way. missed days trying to get help over the few years and tried to see the doc who saw me for a traumatic injury but he did not accept my private insurance, nor would a doctor see me while waiting to get ca-2 for medical. worked with restrictions, and it still wasnt helping. lost my job. realizing i could barely make it to much longer anyways.
31170
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-21-2017
10:15 AM ET (US)
wrongfully - California does not have a requirement that lawyers have to go to law school to take the bar exam. There was a guy on here his name is Edward Daniel, who used to be an owcp claim's examiner, he may still be doing advocate work.

taylor - was your owcp claim ever accepted?
31169
Taylor
12-21-2017
06:04 AM ET (US)
If your terminated from your job but have work related aggravation, even while with restrictions. Will filing of the Ca-2 occupational injury allow any income ?
31168
Wrongfully fired
12-20-2017
09:09 PM ET (US)
Yes i have see the website and have used it for the first 2 yrs. There are no lawyers in the state of Oregon that handle OWCP or USPS injury claims. He is the closest lawyer, but in California. I did extensive search on him and everything was positive and he checked out. What a joke.
31167
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-20-2017
02:48 PM ET (US)
wrongfully - Have you seen the website "The Owcp Classroom"? Are you sure the lawyer you hired is an actual lawyer in your state?
31166
Wrongfully fired
12-20-2017
02:03 PM ET (US)
Neice, all the lawyer has done is charge me money and not help at all and claims to have worked for the postal service and didn't like how injured employees were treated so he became a lawyer. Said he could resolve my issues in 3 months and would not lose my job, then after I paid the retainer changed his time and did nothing. He wanted me to send a ridiculous letter to OWCP pleading for a ecab review based on me not being a lawyer and not knowing what to do. So far I have not been paid for 3 yrs, listed as on lwop since day one so I was fired, bankrupted, had tp get a po box in a different town because my office was tampering with my mail,and lost my home of 30 yrs all because I stood up to the post master about being harassed and she retaliated and forced me to work injured for 6 months by threatened me with my job. This has been a nightmare.
31165
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-20-2017
11:48 AM ET (US)
wronfully - It's not too late for the doctor to write that he has reviewed the patient's job description, [that's why the doctor should always get the job description as soon as you file a claim]. He needs to write another letter stating this and adding: reaching overhead with her right arm to sort letters in the carrier case, twisting and bending her back, neck, and arms/shoulders to pick up each customer's mail which is in the mail truck tray beside her when she is driving and when she stops at each customer's mailbox and then which she then repetitively uses her right arm/shoulder to put the mail in the customer's mailbox has caused etc.... The dumb lawyer should have read the doctor's letter before it was sent to owcp. I didn't realize you had a lawyer helping you. Lawyers are lazy.
31164
Wrongfully fired
12-20-2017
10:52 AM ET (US)
According to the letter the lawyer sent me, it says my Dr. Didn't put the magic words I have reviewed the patients job description. The letter says as a rural mail carrier, I lift 35 pounds continuously and 70 lbs or more intermittently. She is constantly reaching overhead with her right arm, twisting and bending, and doing multiple activities that lead to significant damage about the right shoulder. Her injuries include partial rotator cuff tearing, acromioclavicular joint arthropathy, arthritis, biceps tenosynovitis, and impingement syndrome.These are classically elicited by repetitive use, such as what she does at her work. I recommended surgical management of this and expect her to return to work after surgery within approximately 4 to 6 months.
31163
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-20-2017
10:39 AM ET (US)
wrongfully - The doctor's medical rationale has to state the mechanics of the injury in relation to the job duties which caused the injury or aggravated a pre-existing condition.
31162
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-20-2017
10:37 AM ET (US)
wrongfully: Here is a sample: Found in legal book. "While walking, especially at the gate point of propulsion the weight is borne on the metatarsal heads. This causes increased pressure in this area as well as causing the metatarsal heads to move closer together and impinge on the associated intra-metatarsal nerve. Heel strike, pronation, and mid-stance on the weight bearing (especially with additional weight) causes increase in the longitudinal arch area. This in turn causes pulling of the plantar fascia more at the calcaneal origin than its metatarsal insertion and associated pain.

Dweaver - cover your a_ _
31161
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
12-20-2017
10:27 AM ET (US)
Neice
What is CYA? I was just going to hire a lawyer and go through the disability retirement that way...
31160
Wrongfully fired
12-20-2017
10:23 AM ET (US)
Thanks again my Dr.has rewritten the medical several times and each time OWCP ignores him. He is getting to the point where he doesn't want to rewrite it, because he is not getting paid. My medical is not lacking, OWCP flat out does not want to approve my claim. They have done this to 3 dr.s so far. Delay, deny, and not pay bills until the DR. kicks me loose and won't see me. Very frustrating
31159
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-20-2017
10:15 AM ET (US)
wrongfully - Are you still in the timeframe for a review of the written record? If not, file another Reconsideration, BUT VERY IMPORTANT TO ASK YOUR DOCTOR TO WRITE ANOTHER LETTER OF MEDICAL RATIONALE. I will try & find some samples of medical rationale which it sounds like your medical must've been lacking. Disability Retirement is through OPM not Owcp. You need to send that in pronto. Once you get the proper medical rationale written by your doctor, include that with your Reconsideration Appeal. And, then if you get denied again, then you can file ECAB. But, it definitely sounds like you need a better medical letter.
31158
Wrongfully fired
12-20-2017
10:02 AM ET (US)
I have filed both appeals for reconsideration and been denied. This last one OWCP waited 145 days to respond and that was with the senator pressuring them. Then they said the dr.s explanation did not detail was not good enough. USPS fired me in March of 2017 and back dated it to August 2015. I have all my paperwork for retirement disability through owcp filled out but the ssdi part because they said I was not disabled if I paid for the surgery myself I could return to work, and my post master has refused to respond to their request for information. I will try the nlrb and the mspb.thank you for telling me not to file the ecab.seems like I keep getting told to do things that only delay and hurt my case more. I hired a lawyer in January and he has done nothing.
31157
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-20-2017
09:33 AM ET (US)
dweaver - Apply for disability retirement to cya. If you can't ever go back to work, then definitely apply for disability retirement.

wrongfully - Do not file ECAB until you have all your medical documentation and all info. There are 2 other appeals you can do before the ECAB.
But, if you were fired, then you need to go thru the MSPB route to file a claim for wrongful termination. Also, contact the NLRB about the union not representing you and blowing you off. You should file for a disability retirement also.
31156
Wrongfully fired
12-20-2017
08:42 AM ET (US)
Thanks the union has been no help. They tell me hire a lawyer or just retire. My Dr. Diagnosis was suffient, they simply ignore what he says and tell me to file an ecab appeal.
31155
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
12-20-2017
08:40 AM ET (US)
neice
2 of my claims were finally approved. I ended up filing two CA1's and a CA2 (the CA2 is the only one not yet approved but I'm still working on that).
Work hasn't fired me as of this minute but I heard that they can after the year is up....so I was just getting prepared.
31154
neicePerson was signed in when posted
12-20-2017
08:15 AM ET (US)
dweaver - it means there hasn't been a decision yet in your case - also, you should file for disability retirement before your one year anniversary to be safe.

wrongfully fired - you will need to talk to your union steward and ask for help about fighting a wrongful termination. If owcp hasn't accepted your claim, the medical rationale mostly likely is lacking. The doctor has to tie your injury to the duties of your job which caused or aggravated your injury.
31153
Sonal Desai
12-19-2017
09:07 PM ET (US)
Hi,My dr release me only for 4 hours/day.I have’t given time to see my dr as offered of assignment and effective work both are same dates.
31152
Wrongfully fired
12-19-2017
08:21 PM ET (US)
I need some advice. I have followed all the rules and done everything that has been asked of me, but I still get no where. Has anyone hired a lawyer that actually has gotten a OWCP case straightened out and approved? What if you were wrongly fired?
31151
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
12-19-2017
07:36 PM ET (US)
Also, for the CA-7 that I have been filing, what does "you're case has not yet been adjudicated" mean?
31150
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
12-19-2017
07:31 PM ET (US)
Hi everyone, been a while hope you are all well. So I am coming up on the 1 yr anniversary of my injury. I haven't been back to work since May Drs orders. So my question is can the PO fire me if I'm not back to work before my year anniversary date 1/13/17?
31149
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
12-19-2017
06:32 AM ET (US)
Clearkd. Has your doctor released you to work 8 hours? Have you received a new job offer and taken it to him to review?
31148
cleark d
12-18-2017
01:57 PM ET (US)
Hi,I am working 4 hour/day due to my job related injury as of ca-17.before i had 4hours/day on assignment .Now they changed my duty assignment and put 8 hours on limited duty assignment instead 4 hours ,as i am working 4 hours/day.How it is effecting me?also if new duty i can’t tolerate with in 60 days what are my options?some rule for 60 days i know that but what is that rule?Thanks for help
31147
carol dutton
12-14-2017
12:32 PM ET (US)
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31146
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
12-13-2017
04:40 PM ET (US)
Try to take a witness in. Some doctors will allow one. If anything they can also witness to how long you were in there. A 5 minute appointment can be discredited easier than several hours.
Edited 12-14-2017 11:21 AM
31145
camryn211
12-13-2017
12:06 PM ET (US)
SNOWED, You said take a witness with me to the SECOP appointment? What if they say I can't have no one in the room with me? I remember one time before a SECOP
had a sign up that read nobody but the patient can be in the room.. Another questionThey only gave me 10 days after I received the letter to see the SECOP. Thats
not enough time for me to gather XRAY'S or MRI'S or if I was going to ask my Doctor to come to the appointmentShouldn't I have been allowed at least 30 days?
Once again thank you for your help...
31144
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
12-12-2017
09:19 PM ET (US)
Camryn211-
Also Im sorry if I am asking you repeated questions. My memory is not that great anymore. Since you have a serious back pay issue you should be climbing the chain of command seeking help. I would at this point go right to the top and email the US Secretary of Labor.
31143
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
12-12-2017
09:16 PM ET (US)
Camryn211-
Also the "OWCP Classroom" has some basic "how to" info if you have not looked at that site it yet.
Edited 12-12-2017 09:16 PM
31142
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
12-12-2017
09:14 PM ET (US)
Camryn211-
Yes you can upload a letter requesting a SOAF and questions posed to the SECOP. I would do it now even if you may not receive it in time. Take a witness with you to the appointment and audio record it if you can.
31141
Camryn211
12-12-2017
02:30 PM ET (US)
Snowed, No back pay yet .. I contacted my Senators Office and they wrote them on Nov 13th.But they have not responded yet.When I called my CE she said ,she was done with it and she passed it on to the Senior Claims Examiner.(Her Boss).I guess she has to make sure she came up with the right figures. But I dont understand why it should take 16 months from the ECAB decission to pay me. But here's the killer. The job offer that they offered me back in 2014 and I won the ECAB Appeal on, is the exact same Job offer they are offering me now.The job offer is not suitable. My restrictions say I'm totally disabled.As I mentioned in my last post they are now sending me to a second opinion Dr. They said they determined a second opinion is necessary in my case to address issues related to my claim. I don't know what issues they are talking about..The letter was addressed Nov 30th I recieved it on Dec 9th. the appointment with the second opinion is Dec 19th .. I dont have enough time to gather XRAYS or anything. They could have atleast gave me 30days. Also I never heard anything back from them from the Nov 6th Job offer. Can I ask for the Statement of Accepted Facts that they are giving the Second Opinion.? I probably dont have enough time since my appointment is next week...Thanks Snowed for your help...
31140
Taylor
12-12-2017
05:37 AM ET (US)
Snowed, thank you for all your help.
31139
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
12-11-2017
11:23 PM ET (US)
Camryn211-
No back pay yet? Have you written to the District Director for help? retirement in lieu of job offer? You can’t refuse a job offer if it is suitable if you want to continue receiving wage loss. If you choose to retire voluntarily and not take the suitable job offer, you could even lose any potential schedule award.

Also a SECOP doctor you cannot participate in the selection but you can for the referee physician. I would check over at the OWCP classroom site for particulars on the selection process.
Edited 12-11-2017 11:29 PM
31138
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
12-11-2017
11:16 PM ET (US)
Taylor-
You would likely have an easier time filing a new workers compensation claim. File a CA-1 if you can pinpoint one day that aggravated your condition. File a CA-2 for occupational disease for aggravation of pre existing DDD if you can not pinpoint one day.

As a note you might want to keep the neck separate from low back even filing 2 claims if needed to cover each. This could benefit you in the event of filing for a schedule award in the future.
31137
Taylor
12-11-2017
07:01 AM ET (US)
A few years ago i had an accepted owcp claim for my neck. The original injury had since healed, but owcp also accepted Degenerative disk disease on my claim. My case was later closed for medical and compensation. I had other insurance and back to work, so i was glad that happened. But i missed much work later due to a different job position and suffered from headaches and neck spasms causing me to miss much work later through the next few years. They were episodic so i never opened up an aggravation claim, just dealt with it, with medications. My lower back began to deteriorate also due to the DDD. Long story short, I was recently terminated from my job, even though I explained my situation and with documentation, to no avail. But since I am no longer employed, ( union going to fight it ) does that mean I can open at least for medical treatment for the DDD ? The acceptance of DDD did not specify just cervical but DDD in general.
31136
Camryn211
12-10-2017
07:35 AM ET (US)
Hello , I was on OWCP for several years. In 2014 I was terminated. So 07/2016 I won my ECAB appeal. As of today I have not received my back pay. I was put back on the rolls though. But I received a job offfer in November. Same job offer that I received in 2014 (And Won my ECAB Appeal for) Well when they sent the job offer they also sent me a letter asking if I wanted to retire inlu of the job offer. I sent it back and said I would like to retire but not until they close the part of my case with ECAB.(paying me the back money I lost) Well I just received a letter to see a second opinion. My question is can I find out why I’m being sent to a second opinion. And was the selection done properly?
31135
Sonal Desai
11-28-2017
05:11 PM ET (US)
Ok.Thanks.
31134
KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
11-28-2017
04:50 PM ET (US)
HI Sonal You need to fight it- WHO was your healthcare provider- Mine was Blue Cross and Blue Shield and they told me that if I was denied to fax them the letter of denial and they will cover it- YOU can ask for an appeal
31133
Sonal Desai
11-28-2017
04:20 PM ET (US)
I did still they denied now.
31132
KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
11-28-2017
02:30 PM ET (US)
Cleark d Sorry to hear you were injured- SHOW your insurance provider that your OWCP has been denied they must pick it up then. YOU must show the written proof- SEND them a fax with the proof.
31131
cleark d
11-28-2017
12:14 PM ET (US)
Hi,I had injury at work.Owcp denied my case so i turn to my health insurance for treatment ,.untill november i get physical therapy with my insurance.When i started my treatment with my insurance i told them that my injury is work related and owcp denied my claim.Now after 5 months my insurance denied all payments with reason that my injury is work related .Now my physical therapy stops as my insurance not paying .I received all bills from everywhere that i am responsible for that.
My question is that what i can do ?in this condition.? I am working less hours i have not enough money for my bills and Injury happened at work and i had insurance .If both denied to pay for treatment ,what are my options to get treatment ? I have right to get treatment as a injured employee and ,as a patient and as a civilian .Agency and insurance both or either not taking there responsibility what are my options ?Please guide me.Thanks.
31130
Curious13
11-27-2017
09:01 PM ET (US)
You can receive your scheduled award but you will not recieve lost wages. You can not receive dual payments
31129
mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
11-27-2017
12:04 PM ET (US)
Has anyone successfully received their schedule award while working 4hrs a day or less. I was told that I could file for an impairment rating while still working 4hrs and 4hrs OWCP , and was trying to get confirmation on the validity of the information.
Edited 11-27-2017 12:04 PM
31128
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31127
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
11-10-2017
08:52 AM ET (US)
If you are able to scan your documents, you can send them electronically to owcp through ecomp. I believe there is a link on The Owcp classroom. You can google it.
31126
Camryn211
11-09-2017
07:50 PM ET (US)
Snowed, Thank you...How do I send something to my case worker at OWCP so she can get it right away?
31125
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
11-09-2017
06:43 PM ET (US)
camryn211-
Of course you have time to see your doctor. Is it a job you feel you can do? Don't let them scare you at all. Make sure your current medical report and medical restrictions are up to date in your OWCP file. There is a procedure that the USPS must follow if you dont answer them or refuse the job. They have to send a request to OWCP for a suitability determination..
Edited 11-09-2017 06:46 PM
31124
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11-08-2017
06:00 PM ET (US)
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camryn211
11-08-2017
02:18 AM ET (US)
Hello Everyone Hey Snowed ..I was sent home in 2010 for NRP...Just got a job offer in the mail today. said report to work on Nov 14th. they are going by restrictions of 2011. which are not current. They are giving me till friday to refuse
the Job offer and state why Im refusingHow should I handle this? My doctor has me on total disabilityShouldn't I be allowed time to see my doctor...
31122
MizelPerson was signed in when posted
10-22-2017
01:56 PM ET (US)
Snowed /m31120 /m31121 Thanks :-)
Edited 10-22-2017 01:56 PM
31121
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
10-22-2017
01:24 PM ET (US)
Mizel-
https://www.nalc.org/news/research-and-eco...-Table-Aug-2017.pdf
31120
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
10-22-2017
01:17 PM ET (US)
Mizel-
I'm not sure about the salary and if they take into account the step increases you would have been eligible for. I would call OPM and ask. You should be able to pull pay charts up by googling. Also passive income is not earned income.
Edited 10-22-2017 01:19 PM
31119
MizelPerson was signed in when posted
10-16-2017
05:48 PM ET (US)
To all my friends at the IPFW forum, I have 2 questions: 1) For purposes of DR, what is the current annual salary of a USPS letter carrier? AND 2) For purposes of DR, does PASSIVE (e.g., rental) income count against the 80% limit? Thank you to all that can assist... and to those that cannot....

It's Mizel... trying to keep the FEDS off my back...
Edited 10-16-2017 05:49 PM
31118
Taylor
10-13-2017
07:28 AM ET (US)
Rivkah, I would call his office in Tampa and speak to the woman at the front desk. Ask her if you can email or fax a short summary for the doctors review to determine if he may see you. If they say that would be acceptable, in the letter, make it as brief as possible, no diagnosis over the fax, but that you are coming from such and such place, unable to attend local therapies, you are in the process of appealing a claim regarding such and such part of your body in addition to the new injury you mentioned. You are having a difficult time finding owcp doctors, and seek his professional opinion. If you are coming from such a distance, and cannot attend weekly or twice weekly therapy, Im sure he would want to see you at least once per month. Most doctors do want to keep up with their patients to some degree and thats understandable. It was my previous doctor that did the causation narrative, Dr. Blecha concurred. Mine really was a no brainer of an incident. Dr. Blechas narratives were so darned professional. ( I asked for a copy and the office was more than happy to fax me one once complete ) very detailed. I lived a little distance away from Tampa and I never received therapy through their office. I dont know if he would be willing to write an order for therapy elsewhere (if needed ) and have the results sent to his office if he did accept you.
31117
bettybn
10-13-2017
01:41 AM ET (US)
Rivkah and Snowed Thank You!
31116
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
10-12-2017
09:00 PM ET (US)
Taylor I emailed Dr Blecha weeks ago through his info on ime.net but never got a response. I'm coming from a distance so wouldn't be seeing him regularly for treatment if I did go to him. Has he done any causation narratives for you? His credentials look great but its the owner that concerns me.I recently had a claim denied that I am appealing and also need to file a new one. I'm waiting for 2 different doctors to call me, hopefully tomorrow and am seeing a local doctor on Monday. A doctor I was leaning towards in Arizona won't see me because of the distance. He only takes patients that see him regularly for treatment. His office recommended I go to Dr. Ellis. Im exhausted from researching doctors and reading ecab decisions.The whole process has me realky stressed right now.
31115
Taylor
10-12-2017
05:32 PM ET (US)
Rivkah. After reviewing your message I also looked up the business and Wilhelm Rameau, who yes, is identified as the VP of Medical Arts Comprehensive, along with Dr. Blecha as being the President. ? Wilhelm appears to be involved in many businesses per sunbiz.org and I found some complaints about him through contractors who obviously have had some bad dealings with him. But as far as state discipline records, I didnt find any. But I haven't looked extensively. May begin doing that later this evening after work. It is very important for patients to know who it is they are seeing. As far as Dr. Blecha, I found zero complaints. When I had seen him a few years ago, he didnt appear shady what so ever, and after just coming out of the Amerimed fiasco, I was skeptical. No one wants to have a doctors appointment only to find the doors locked on them. Never experienced anything like that in my life, nor care to again. The second opinion doctors OWCP referred me to for exam were actually more conservative than Dr.Blecha. Although he understood my health issues, it was him who returned me to work and work up slowly. With much instruction on how to prevent a reoccurrence, as best we knew we could. I have not had another injury to this part of my body thus far. Albiet lighter duty, but still, Im grateful for his care. I still get aches and pains but do doctor myself from home with good advice. learned to work in a more precautious manner. He gave me at home exercises to do, what to use when Im feeling the aches of working discomforts. Its been much help. Dont feel he abused the system at all. Dont know why there are scammers out there, or why they are concentrated in Tampa or other big cities. Nor do I know why many doctors dont even care to deal with Federal OWCP. Maybe its all the paperwork and precise wording, requests for even more paperwork or even if they are being paid correctly. After all, if the paperwork is not submitted correctly, or the right form used, it is the patient that suffers with delayed cases and / or approval and treatment. My feeling is any good doctor would cringe with defeat if his t's weren't crossed or I's dotted while watching his patient suffer waiting on corrections. Its just unfortunate for federal workers to have to search very hard for ANY doctor. But imperative they seek one out conducting the research you have done in finding one. Because if their office closes, you are back to square one. An overwhelming situation to be in.
31114
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
10-12-2017
03:33 PM ET (US)
/m31112 Taylor I just looked up Medical Arts Comprehensive and googled the owner, Wilhelm Rameau. It looks like he has been involved in several fraudulent businesses. The info concerning him is scary. There seem to be alot of frauds getting involved in owcp. There seems to have been quite a few in Tampa. Why?
31113
Robin Parks
10-12-2017
07:17 AM ET (US)
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31112
Taylor
10-12-2017
04:50 AM ET (US)
Amerimed offices are closed. There was a raid on them a few years or so ago. The owners went to jail. Something about Kickbacks. Freaked me out, because I was a patient at Amerimed. I also found them on Federal Doc. Went to see the doctor one afternoon and the door was locked. It took me about a month to find another doctor. I kept calling doctors from the OWCP ACS, only to be told they are no longer accepting federal employees. ?? This was a strange time. I then visited federal soup for referrals. Someone said Amerimed reopened. I thought that could not be true, I didnt want to return to any Amerimed after what happened, but I called the Tampa office out of curiosity, and the woman who answered the phone said they were under new ownership, no longer Amerimed. Dr.Richard Blecha was not with Amerimed long prior to their closing. He was new. The woman said I could make an appointment with him. The new ownership is Medical Arts Comprehensive, I think. I kind of hesitated, but knew I had to have a doctor who saw federal employees, and Dr. Blecha is an Orthopedic. So I made an appointment. The Amerimed closing was not due to the employees, but the owners anyway. Dr.Blecha went over my file thoroughly, provided my exam, reviewed my MRI's, X-Rays, Diagnosis. Ordered more test to see where I was at then. He is a great doctor. He is actually an orthopedic surgeon, but i dont believe he does surgeries anymore. He has practiced orthopedics for a very long time and is a very smart man. Very kind, very patient. he listens well and allows you to ask questions, he then explains things very well. He is also aware of the OWCP paperwork, the precise medical narratives he provides for every visit. Im not on OWCP any longer, its been a few years. But I recently called his office for orthopedic care, unfortunately, he does not accept my primary insurance. I felt Dr.Blecha really cares about his patients. I have never had a doctor of any type, made me feel as comfortable and as easy to talk to as Dr.Blecha.
31111
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
10-11-2017
10:13 PM ET (US)
Bettybn-
Use the chain of command at OWCP. Write to the District Director at the street address for your district. Include a copy of your request to have medical conditions added and the medical.

You can also ask your congressman for help.
31110
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
10-11-2017
03:34 PM ET (US)
/m31109 check out the owcp classroom. Just google it.
31109
bettybnPerson was signed in when posted
10-10-2017
05:41 PM ET (US)
My Claims Examiner has not authorized additional diagnoses to be added to my OWCP case file. It has been over a year since my first request to have the additional diagnoses added. My Primary Care Dr. sent a letter to the CE documenting medical evidence that these additional diagnoses were caused by my accident at work and several of my medical providers have documented these diagnoses. I am a FECA injured federal employee. My CE put my case on review and cut off my Home Health services 6 months ago and will not authorize continued Physical therapy, Neuro etc until completion of my 2nd opinion exams. I had my Ortho 2nd opinion examination for my injured shoulder. OWCP directed the 2nd opinion Dr. to examine only my shoulder. My injuries include my shoulder (accepted as authorized diagnoses by OWCP) neck and upper back injuries which have not been added as accepted authorized diagnoses so while I wait, the Department of Labor will not pay for treatment of neck and upper back injuries until CE adds them as accepted diagnoses. The Ortho 2nd opinion did as instructed and only examined my shoulder. Any and all suggestions appreciated concerning 1)getting additional diagnoses added 2) getting treatment paid by Department of Labor for the diagnoses the CE has not added 3) opinions about my continued use of other insurance for medical care of injuries sustained at work but that have not been added to my case file as accepted diagnoses. Thank You
31108
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
10-07-2017
09:50 AM ET (US)
Check out the owcp classroom and Jesse Slade. You can google it.
31107
tbaroness
10-06-2017
08:45 PM ET (US)
I filed another appeal on July 7th 2017 never heard a word after 90 days I had the senator call they said they would have a response in 2 weeks. 2 weeks pass senator calls 1 more week passes I get told today I am again denied. I have been a rural carrier for 15 yrs. I call shared services and they tell me I was fired March 2017, and they back dated it to August 2014 my last pay period. Wth? It is my rt shoulder, who is the best lawyer to sue usps and owcp? The one I have has done nothing for 10 months
31106
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
10-06-2017
03:58 PM ET (US)
Is anybody familiar with Amerimed Diagnostic Services and/or Richard Blecha MD? It looks like they have experience with owcp. Their website says they have several offices in Florida and one near DC but the DC number is not in service. I believe 1 or more of the Florida offices are closed. I did leave messages at 3 offices. They are listed on FedDoctor.com.
31105
joe
09-30-2017
09:29 AM ET (US)
USPS Regulations state, “No mail piece may weigh more than 70 pounds or measure more than 108 inches in length and girth combined, except USPS Retail Ground, which may not measure more than 130 inches in length and girth combined. For parcels, length is
the distance of the longest dimension and girth is the distance around the thickest part.
” These are the Postal Service guidelines.

Screw ups by others does not make it right. Make sure you take pics of any suspect parcels to have as evidence when you hurt yourself and have to file a workman's comp claim.

All team lift parcels should be left at office and the customer notified.
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31101
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-20-2017
03:10 PM ET (US)
Clark d Just google them.
31100
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-20-2017
03:10 PM ET (US)
Snowed Thanks. I know you have recommended contacting the SOL. I have only done it once before and it definitely rattled some cages.
31099
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-20-2017
02:33 PM ET (US)
Rivkah-
I'll check there. Just so you know I have had good luck just emailing the SOL.
31098
Clark d.
09-20-2017
02:33 PM ET (US)
Thanks.How i can join pen soup website?If any link please send me .Thanks.
31097
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-20-2017
02:21 PM ET (US)
Clark d. I'm aware of the Postal Employees Network (pen) and Federal Soup. Not sure if there are others. There is also a site called the OWCP classroom with lots of information and a blog.
31096
Clark d.
09-20-2017
01:21 PM ET (US)
Hi,Which is onother forum?Can i get detail of other forum ?How i can join that forum too.How many forum for federal injured workers?please give me list of all of them. Thank you.
31095
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-20-2017
09:35 AM ET (US)
Snowed. I sent a pm on fed soup. Any advice would be appreciated. I am still waiting for a legal consult. In the meantime, I sent a letter to the SOL and ccd it to the district director. I sent the dd letter by pm which was never scanned delivered so I don't know if it was received. That seems to be a pattern right now with priority. I sent the SOL express.
31094
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-19-2017
10:44 PM ET (US)
You should make an appointment with the SSA and they can sit down and explain your benefits.
31093
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-19-2017
10:43 PM ET (US)
PatrickA-
It is SOcial Security that reduced your wife's and your SSD benefits before full retirement age based on OWCP payment. After full retirement age OWCP will reduce its payment but you and your wife should get your full Social security payment...they take forever to fix this stuff...good luck.
31092
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-19-2017
10:35 PM ET (US)
Sorry Wrong about VR...I believe this wAs changed recently.
"(4) A claimant who enters a vocational rehabilitation program during the course of a schedule award is entitled to receive compensation at the rate for TTD. This entitlement is satisfied by schedule award payments as well as those for TTD. It is therefore not necessary to interrupt a schedule award for payment of TTD unless the claimant is also receiving an annuity from OPM. In this case, the payments must be converted to TTD and an election must be obtained, as vocational rehabilitation services cannot be provided to an individual in receipt of such an annuity."
31091
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-19-2017
10:32 PM ET (US)
FECA-2-2808
"(5) If payment for TTD is interrupted to pay a schedule award, such TTD payments must be resumed at the end of the schedule if the claimant has not been reemployed or rated for LWEC at the time the award ends (see Goldie Washington, 31 ECAB 239 (1979)). Therefore, it is extremely important to establish the claimant's earning capacity before the award ends. It may also be necessary to obtain an election if the claimant is also receiving an annuity from OPM."
31090
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-19-2017
10:23 PM ET (US)
Kimmiek-
I don't think you are correct. Often OWCP will hold off paying the Schedule Award while a person is on wage loss but they can replace the wage loss with the SA. Yes the claims examiner is encouraged to calculate a LWEC if possible but often there is not enough info in the record to do so since VR can not be approved during a SA. If the claimant was receiving total disability wage loss at the time the SA commences then the claim examiner is obligated to return the claimant to the periodic roll if no LWEC is authorized.
Edited 09-19-2017 10:24 PM
31089
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31088
Clark d.
09-19-2017
11:43 AM ET (US)
Hi,I tried to get help from several places but not satisfied.I heard about IFWAA in this.If anyone tell me that is it good idea to go with them?What are advantages and disadvantages of to go with IFWAA please quick reply will be appreciated .I don't no nathing about it.Thank you
31087
KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
09-19-2017
10:40 AM ET (US)
Concerned HI! If you file for a SCHEDULE AWARD you must be at MMI for this injury claim number- You must be no longer collecting compensation so you will either be back at work or retired or on Disability retirement. You cannot collect a schedule award and compensation for this claim number at the same time. ONCE you accept the SA and you are finished collecting it you will receive an LWEC and your done with OWCP monetarily unless the injury degenerates due to your accepted medical condition... so it can go a percentage up and your can collect more for the award but you are done monetarily with OWCP. You can still seek medical attention if in fact you need to and they can reopen the claim if it is related to your on the job injury.
Edited 09-19-2017 10:44 AM
31086
Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
09-19-2017
03:41 AM ET (US)
/m31079
Snowed
I went to Congressman Vargas's office yesterday . It was a very useful appointment. The lady that's working on my case was very helpful and their contacting OWCP and Soc. Sec. had very positive results. She said that she will again contact the OWCP District office and enquire as to why I did not get my check. Also she is going to contact OPM about why OWCP thinks that I am collecting my FERS/OPM Retirement benefits. So maybe we will some results. Also she said that she would enquire as to why my wife did not start getting her full benefit from my Soc. Sec. So now we sit back and wait. We started this process in July and are or it seems that we are getting positive results, it's just a lot of hurry up and wait. Also seems that we are getting close to the end of the tunnel. But as I said before at this time I do not feel or think it would be to my advantage to start taking my OPM Retirement, I guess there is a lot more research to be done before I pull the pin!
31085
Concerned
09-18-2017
06:18 PM ET (US)
I am in the early stage filling for a schedule award.If I am awarded would my owcp stop my benifits stop?
31084
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-18-2017
05:52 PM ET (US)
Mailed or faxed, the CA7 goes to your district HRM. If you fax it you should not mail a hard copy, too.
31083
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-18-2017
04:57 PM ET (US)
NY (31082)
 I didn't know we were supposed to send a hard copy to anyone...? I thought we just fax it to our HRM person?
31082
NY Wiseguy
09-18-2017
04:21 PM ET (US)
Anyone know the address to send a completed CA-7. Thank you in advance
31081
Rivkah
09-18-2017
04:19 PM ET (US)
I received this a couple of days ago in a newsletter from a lawyer I used in the past.

Claimant Query System (CQS) Update
Several years ago OWCP cut off direct claimant access to the Claimant Query System (CQS) due to massive amounts of medical billing fraud due to the very weak log in authentication utilized at that time. Subsequently, OWCP claimants were only able to access CQS information if they remained active federal employees through the National Finance Center (NFC) web interface. However, claimants who were no longer federal employees and their representatives have had no online access over the last several years.
OWCP has been working on restoring a standalone CQS access and has now launched a new portal. CQS is a secure site where injured workers may log in to view information on their case status, compensation payments and compensation claim tracking. Access to CQS is now available through a new site called OWCP Connect, which allows individuals with existing claims under the Federal Employees’ Compensation Act (FECA), to register for an account and log in after authenticating their credentials. Claimants may navigate to OWCP Connect by clicking here. If that link does not work for you paste the following into your browser https://owcpconnect.dol.gov/owcplogin/?site=cqs

 
During the account registration process, claimants must prove their identity by validating information entered against secure Credit Bureau data. Claimants will need to successfully answer questions posed by the Credit Bureau about their credit history in order to verify their identity. Information available to the credit bureau about an injured worker’s credit history will be used for identity verification only, and this information will not be saved or stored in OWCP records.

After a claimant’s identity has been authenticated, they will create a password, security image, key phrase and security questions for the account. Once an account has been created, the claimant may log into OWCP Connect and access CQS by entering their OWCP case file number. A case may only be accessed if the personal information associated with the OWCP Connect account matches the information associated with the OWCP case file. Please note that for federal agencies serviced by the National Finance Center (NFC), access to CQS will continue to be available to injured workers by logging into NFC’s Employee Personal Page.
31080
Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
09-18-2017
12:31 PM ET (US)
Also when we applied for my wife to get part of my Soc. Sec. Benefits the OWCP would take most of her check, but after they took her benefits that my Soc. Sec. or my OWCP benefit check would go up. But it never did.
31079
Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
09-18-2017
12:13 PM ET (US)
Snowed,
Also the Soc.Sec. said that my wife has been receiving the wrong amount of Soc.Sec. fro, my Soc.Sec. She is supposed to get 98% of 55% of my monthly benefit. Has been receiving less than $100 a month. According to the letter we got from Soc.Sec. OWCP was dedicating too much money from my wife check from the first day that she applied for Soc. Sec./Medicare . She never paid into Soc. Sec. in her working years (she worked for the school district) So what we are afraid of now is that they are going to take her monthly check again.
31078
Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
09-18-2017
12:01 PM ET (US)
Snowed

The OWCP stated on their Automated system that they deposited my check on 9/16/17. And the amount that they took was the amount that they said that they were going to start taking back for over payment. But I had not received my monthly check as of yet. But they way the letter is it seems like they are going to take all of it. Also the Soc. Sec. did send me a letter that said the were switching me from Disability Retirement to Regular Retirement and they it would be last June, But according to Soc.Sec. it happened in May. Yet the OWCP offset is less than $500. I have not received my benefits statement in the mail yet but I usually receive it on the Monday after they deposit my OWCP Check.
Edited 09-18-2017 12:03 PM
31077
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-18-2017
09:43 AM ET (US)
Also your DR would switch to regular retirement.
31076
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-18-2017
09:41 AM ET (US)
PatrickA-
If you are FULL retirement age OWCP will begin offsetting for SS attributable to federal employment. Depending on the numbers, switching to DR might be a better option.
31075
Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
09-18-2017
05:14 AM ET (US)
Okay, I filed my yearly 1032 form in June. I told them all the normal stuff, so now I did not get my Benefits check from OWCP for Sep. Instead I get a letter that says I was over paid. I got a letter from Soc. Sec. that they would no longer offset my Soc.Sec. Pmt. I call the OWCP number and OWCP says that they deposited my check in the bank, it has not showed up. They OWCP also stated they or going to start taking back money to recover the over payment. OWCP thinks I am getting my OPM Retirement now. (I gave OWCP my CSA Number) Because I am a FERS Employee when I originally filed for OWCP I had to apply for Soc. Sec. and my OPM Retirement. Which I am not, I contacted OPM to see how much my retirement check would be each month. When I received the letter from Soc. Sec. stating that they no longer would be offsetting my Soc. Sec. Benefits Has any one else gotten "F" by the OWCP when they reached full retirement age?
I called my lawyer and I also have an appointment with my Congressman's office on Monday.
31074
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-17-2017
08:22 AM ET (US)
Dweaver Please privately email me the ifwaa drs name.
31073
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-15-2017
03:45 PM ET (US)
Ask Donna who gets leave slips.Leave slip is for pp20.ca7 is for pp19 which ends today. Just send the 1st page. Copy or iriginal of what? You should be more careful about posting personal information on here. Doctors names, etc.
31072
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-15-2017
03:25 PM ET (US)
Ugh, sorry for so many questions Rivkah. This CA7 is for which PP? 18 or 19?
31071
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-15-2017
03:22 PM ET (US)
Rivkah,
Also, with every CA7 do I send in the first page only or all 4 of them?
31070
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31069
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-15-2017
02:58 PM ET (US)
Did you turn in anything from Dr M. stating how long you will be off work? It should go to HRM. Write the approved claim number on it. If your leave is scheduled in advance you don't need to call ERMS. That is meant for UNscheduled leave. 3971s for scheduled leave go to local management. You can either mail the 3971s for the entire time you already know you will be off or get a fax number for the supervisor or MDO for your tour from Donna. I would send it to the attention of whoever does your timekeeping. You need one for each pay perod for 80 hours. Write LWOP /IOD /OWCP /049 on each slip. The next CA7 ggets faxed to HRM this Monday. Please email the new docs name. I'm waiting for a lawyer consult. Depending on what they say, I may call IFWAA again. I'd like to research the doctor before I decide. HRM still won't let me,come back to work and is lying to owcp saying the job is still available.
31068
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-15-2017
01:49 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
the drive was 2.5 hours (two accidents and rain).
I used the sick leave line on Tues for these next two weeks and Im sending in my 3971, but who do I send it to? Holly? I think I've filled it out properly but I'm not sure...
I'm filling it out for PP 19 even though I've already called in on the Sick Leave line and recorded it. Should I wait until PP 20 to fax this to Holly? Please advise....thanks
31067
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-15-2017
11:06 AM ET (US)
How long was the drive?
31066
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-15-2017
11:06 AM ET (US)
It sounds good so far. I've tried to get ahold of Jonathan but he doesnt return my calls. I was told I woukd have to see the dr once a month. Can you email me orivately the drs name?
31065
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-15-2017
07:36 AM ET (US)
Rivkah
I believe it's two other case managers. I don't recall asking about a time frame but I have to call Joshua anyway so ask some other things so I'll ask then. I signed some paperwork so I'm sure there was something in it regarding them handling my case. I do have to go back but it's not once a month, I think it was once a year (for Dr). They wanted to take over the case with Dr M but I don't know that I want that since his case has been approved. I have to pick up Dr M's office notes for my visit last week regarding the CA7 that OWCP needed. So I'll decide what to do at that point. I was very happy with the Dr and his nurse. They gave me time to explain all the injuries from Jan and May and his nurse took specific notes and asked direct questions on how my injuries happened which I've never had the chance to do before. That for me was very important, because they have to understand how it happened and how to relate the injury to the "pre existing" Spondylosis that I was diagnosed with..
31064
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-15-2017
07:21 AM ET (US)
What 2 others do they submit it to? What kind of timeframe did they give you? Did you have to sign some sort of contract with them? They had told me that they require you to see the dr once a month. Can you give more details on how they operate? Will they also work with Dr. M on the claim that was just approved to help get the procedures preauthorized and the CA7s paid?
31063
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-14-2017
08:41 PM ET (US)
clarkd - If I'm reading you question correctly, if your doctor says you can work only 2 hours/day, then that's all the po will let you work. It's all up to your doctor. The duties the po has you do also has to be in line with the restrictions your doctor gives you. Hope that helps.
31062
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-14-2017
06:18 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
Yes I seen the Dr. He is not a specialist as far as I know. But he is familiar with OWCP/DOT and writing a proper narrative. They submit it to two others before they send it to DOL....so I'm good with that. Anyway, we shall see how it goes..I'll let you know...
31061
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-14-2017
06:14 PM ET (US)
Dweaver Did you see their doctor? What was their specialty?
31060
Clark d.
09-14-2017
04:26 PM ET (US)
Hi,I have question i was working 4 hours/day due to my privious injury.Now i am working 2 hours/day due to my new injury both are work related injury but my new injury owcp denied.My question is that my privious job before new injury i was working 4 hours/day which is also fit with my current injury limitations of 2 hours/day still my management not allowed me to do that work for 2 hour/day and i am working other new job for 2 hours/day which is not on my 4hours/day assignment and not given me a new job offer for 2 hours/day.is it management doing right?and other question is that when in future if i go back to 4 hours/day and management give me my privious job or new job for 4 hours/day how both job is effected ?They have to give me new assignment for same job or they should give me new type of work assignment ?please explain me all possibilities of future.Thanks.
Edited 09-14-2017 04:28 PM
31059
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-14-2017
01:35 PM ET (US)
Dweaver - As long as your claim has been approved, your supv should be putting your lwop absences in as 049.
31058
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-14-2017
12:55 PM ET (US)
So my appt with IFWAA went well yesterday. Though by the time I got home I wanted to die, I was in so much pain...I do believe that my CA2 will be approved with their help.
31057
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-14-2017
12:50 PM ET (US)
Neice
It hasn't already? Even though it's for medical? I'm confused?
31056
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-13-2017
09:57 AM ET (US)
Dweaver - Yes, your supv has to wait till your claim is approved to change to code 049
31055
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-11-2017
05:50 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
May.
Hopefully my appt this week with the IFWAA will fix this.
Don't really matter I guess anyway as far as AL/SL....
I swear the PO sucks! They screw you in so many ways and can without any consequences!!!
31054
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-11-2017
05:49 PM ET (US)
Let us know how your appointments go on the 13th.
31053
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-11-2017
05:45 PM ET (US)
Once it's fixed, your retirement won't be affected but you do not get back sl or al that was used due to the injury unless you buy it back. Does the injury just approved go back to may or January?
31052
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-11-2017
04:09 PM ET (US)
Snowed
Does that mean that it'll go back from Jan DOI retrospectively? I don't want to lose all that time of accumulating sick and annual leave, plus my retirement...
31051
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-11-2017
04:02 PM ET (US)
Snowed I sent you a private message on federal soup. I'd appreciate any suggestions you may have. Thanks.
31050
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-11-2017
03:18 PM ET (US)
Dweaver- once your claim is accepted they should change the code for absence related to work injury.
31049
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-11-2017
09:51 AM ET (US)
Don't know if I've asked this already but does my claim have to be approved by OWCP in order for my supervisor to change the 060 hours code to the appropriate one of 049?
31048
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-10-2017
03:22 PM ET (US)
put YES under compensation claimed for each day you want compensation.
31047
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-10-2017
03:19 PM ET (US)
reason for leave is either "No work available", "100% disability by doctor", "doctor appointment"....
31046
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-10-2017
03:17 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
I didnt need 3 copies of the 1199a, only one to submit. The bank didnt want one but you can ask yur bank. No just put hours worked in appropriate box for the day. the balance of the 8 hour day is LWOP(unless you used s/l or a/l). you tally your LWOP hours for the pay period and put it in the LWOP. Buy back is blank unless you used a/l or s/l during the period and want it back.
Edited 09-10-2017 03:21 PM
31045
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-10-2017
02:28 PM ET (US)
ugh sorry for all the questions, on the 1199 direct deposit form what goes in Section 2 Government Agency Name and address?
31044
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-10-2017
01:37 PM ET (US)
for the 1199a do I need to print out 3 copies? one for the PO, Me and the Financial Institute?
31043
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-10-2017
01:25 PM ET (US)
so another question:
the hrs that I worked (6.29) do I put them under "for Leave BuyBack"?
31042
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-10-2017
12:59 PM ET (US)
Sorry, Direct Deposit.. 😀
31041
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-10-2017
12:58 PM ET (US)
Thanks Snowed! I think DAD is probably the better option anyway so I guess I'll sign up for it. .
31040
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-09-2017
10:36 PM ET (US)
https://www.dol.gov/owcp/dfec/EFTConversion.htm
31039
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-09-2017
10:35 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Usually if you work part of a day during a pay period you have to file a CA-7a too.

You don't have to do direct deposit. If you don't you will be sent a Direct Express card and funds will be put on a card each month. Social Security does the same thing. There are no paper checks anymore.
31038
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-09-2017
06:24 PM ET (US)
So I got my CA7 returned to me from Holly HRM today saying that:
1) I worked during PP 11 and have to fill out the CA7a
2) she telling me "code 049 is appropriate for approved claims, with approved disability." 'This claim has not moved into that qualification as of today (9/7).' 'If and when it does, this office will advise your supervisor what changes to make for the appropriate date range." "This office does NOT enter your time, nor do we 'fix' it."
And what if I choose not to do direct deposit? She's making it seem like I have no other option, is this true I HAVE to direct deposit it?
31037
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-09-2017
01:03 PM ET (US)
Dweaver I don't know if you're aware that owcp pays more than DR, so for now that is the way to go. DR also takes a long time to be approved. You have to be unable to work for at least a year and the po has to say they have no work for you. If you are out because of procedures or surgeries you shouldn't have problems getting owcp.
31036
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-09-2017
09:26 AM ET (US)
Thanks Rivkah. I will mark my calendar so I'll be prepared.
31035
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-09-2017
09:24 AM ET (US)
September 18, Monday. Then every 2 weeks.
31034
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-09-2017
09:02 AM ET (US)
Rivkah
Can you tell me when I file my next CA7? You said it has to be for the two week period if pay for the PO but I'm not sure if I file the first day of the following week if pay, it when to file? I filed for the period up to Sept 1st I think...so when would the next day be? Sorry I have a horrible memory when my depression sets in.... :-(
31033
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-09-2017
08:33 AM ET (US)
Snowed I just got the copy of my files for the prior approved claim.HRM is putting on every CA7 that I am not entitled to pay. That the limited duty job I was doing is still availabke but that I can't do it because of the new restrictions. On the ca2a they wrote they believe I only filed the recurrence because my new claim was denied.

I spoke to the CE and supervisor at owcp last week who said it will be another 1 to 2 weeks before a decisin is made. After I called I wrote a letter reiterating the conversation and ecomped it. I had already sent a copy of the drac decision saying no work, along with the appeal from my advocate and a letter I wrote about the errors and fallacies.
31032
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-09-2017
07:09 AM ET (US)
Thank you Snowed. All you "guys" are the best here!
31031
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-08-2017
10:13 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Its normal for OWCP to say approved for medical only until they process your CA-7's...glad you have good support.
31030
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-08-2017
03:52 PM ET (US)
Dweaver If you haven't already give them info on acs for approval. For info on DR go to opm.gov and ckick on the retirement tab.
31029
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-08-2017
03:27 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
Dr M is gonna do a radio frequency ablation on my cervical spine and injections in my thoracic region of my back. After that it's surgery, cuz that's the only thing left, which he doesn't wish to do. I haven't had an appt scheduled yet but will make sure they do have the previous approval first ( but I hope they already know this)....
31028
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-08-2017
09:42 AM ET (US)
Dweaver. Snowed posted a link for DR and info several weeks ago. Is the procedure for the conditions that were just accepted? If yes make sure the drs office gets preapproval from owcp before doing it and tells them how long you will be off to recuperate. You will then get paid by owcp.
31027
mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
09:53 PM ET (US)
Thanks Neice! I think I'm good with SECOPS, owcp won't even approve me to do therapy for strengthening anymore. Last SECOP and independent review, they agreed with my former ortho(retired),....
31026
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
09:14 PM ET (US)
Dweaver - I think you have to have at least 5 years in the post office to get disability retirement. I don't know how many years you have. You also have to be at MMI to get disability retirement. If your doctor is doing a procedure, there is a chance you're gonna get better. But, if you don't get better and the doctor says you're at MMI, then you can apply for DR. Then if you get it, you can tell the po that you're gonna stay on owcp. But, you have to deal with owcp every year or how often they want to send you on secops.
31025
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
09:10 PM ET (US)
mailladypostlady - The owcp would have to pay you for the full 40 hours, [but just the same percentage, either 66-1/3 or 75% depending if you have a dependant]. Of course, you will have to deal with owcp every year or how often they feel like sending you to a secop to make sure you haven't improved.
31024
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
03:57 PM ET (US)
I had my Dr appt today and my Dr is going to be performing a procedure and that I'm going to be out of work for at least the next six months possibly longer. If this is the case why wouldn't it he a good idea for my applying for early disability retirement? I have stated before that I don't have the time in but if I am unable to work at the current capacity wouldn't now be the time to apply? Just checking my options....
31023
mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
03:50 PM ET (US)
Niece, if I am approved for the disability retirement, and elect to stay on OWCP, will I be paid from owcp the 30hrs a week or go back to the full 40hrs a week owcp I was previously on before I went back to work 10hrs a week..
31022
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
10:00 AM ET (US)
mailladypostlady - Then if I were you, I would apply for postal disability retirement. You will have to apply to social security again, but that's just a formality. If you get the postal disability retirement, then you can tell owcp that you will stay on owcp. At least you will have the postal disability retirement already approved.
31021
mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
08:08 AM ET (US)
Neice, yes I'm MMI. I had been on NWA for 3yrs before returning to work. Initially, my dr said 4hrs a day, but in 2016 I received a notice in the mail on a Wednesday to report to work on a Friday for 2hrs a day. OWCP pays me for the other 6 hrs... I had already applied for SSDI, but it was determined that since I had been back at USPS for more than a yr, it was now considered active employment, even if only working 2 hrs a day. On top of that, because of my pay rate, although I meet physical requirements for ssdi, I am not eligible for the ssdi because owcp offsets, and my rate of pay from Usps is more than allowed to collect from ssdi and work..... judge said that even if hrs are reduced, I would have to reapply all over again. 😢
31020
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
07:36 AM ET (US)
Neice. I hope its very temporary.Im trying to pick a lawyer and dr.
31019
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
07:35 AM ET (US)
Mailady How many hours has your doctor released you to work? To be suitable the job offer must be at least half of what your restrictions allow. If you are allowed to work 4, then 2 would be suitable and you would get the remaining hours from owcp. Were you a ftr before your injury? Do you have a wec?
31018
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-07-2017
06:33 AM ET (US)
mailladypostlady - Are you at MMI? If you are, then you should apply for postal disability now.
31017
mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
09:36 PM ET (US)
Niece, not trying to work more hours, but I didn't know that 2hrs a day job offer was not suitable. Been doing it a year and a half now though. Because of this, I was denied my SSDI because my hourly rate of pay places me above the threshold to recive my ssa benefits. It's a bad position to be in...
31016
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
09:18 PM ET (US)
rivkah - I notice the same thing. The ecab site is not letting me search for specific things. Hopefully, just a temporary glitch.
31015
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
09:16 PM ET (US)
mailladypostlady - If you want to work more hours, your doctor has to say you can. The doctor is the boss.
31014
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
07:20 PM ET (US)
You do.
31013
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
05:32 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
Jesse said that it's one initial CA7, them once it's approved its once per pay period. I thought you meant I have to apply for each pay period I've missed since May's injury...
31012
mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
04:25 PM ET (US)
Also, I applied for SSDI, and working the 2hrs a day has prevented me from getting my benefits because SSA says I am over the threshhold to qualify .....
Edited 09-06-2017 09:33 PM
31011
mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
04:24 PM ET (US)
Forgot to sign in, but can someone who has knowledge respond whenever you get a chance...
31010
Mailladypostlady
09-06-2017
04:23 PM ET (US)
I was reading some posts abt working less than 4hrs a day. I am only working 2, is there something I can do abt it? I've been doing this for more than a ye now
31009
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
03:11 PM ET (US)
Snowed, Neice, others. I'm trying to look up drs and lawyers in the subject search on the ecab site. Has it been disabled? Names I've researched previously won't evev come up.
31008
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
01:15 PM ET (US)
1 for each pay period.
31007
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
12:13 PM ET (US)
Rivkah (31003)
You mean I have to fill out at least 5 CA7's!?
31006
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-06-2017
08:05 AM ET (US)
Rivkah
I have gotten the notes from Dr M for each of my visits.
31005
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
08:40 PM ET (US)
The office notes document the exam and everything discussed at the visit. They are more detailed than what you normally walk out the door with and are usually completed after the visit. They probably require a release form to be filled out by you in order to send them to you. You can request the notes from all of your prior visits. They may print the previous ones while you are there or tell you to go through medical records. Having them for the visit with the ifwaa dr will be helpful.
31004
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
08:07 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
You lost me on the your last sentence....
31003
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
06:51 PM ET (US)
You need a ca7 for each pay period since you've been off. Office notes are not what you're getting at each visit saying that you can't work or your restrictions. You would probably need to sign something to have them sent to you once they're done.
31002
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
06:15 PM ET (US)
I told her about it today and she said not to worry about it....
I have my CA7 ready to fax to Holly tomorrow. And made the request for her to fix it.
I won't have the CA20 from Dr M because he's in surgery this week so I have to take that up with him at my appt Thurs. So I'm gonna send in the CA7 to get that ball rolling and then send in the CA20 when I get it...
31001
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
06:08 PM ET (US)
Make sure Donna gets your lwop fixed.
31000
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
06:07 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
Yes everytime I visit Dr M I Ecomp them right away when I get home. As far as my other visit, I have everything ready to go next week.
30999
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
06:04 PM ET (US)
Have you been getting office notes from Dr. M. and ecomping those to your file? You should request and send them after every visit. You should also take them to the ifwaa dr.
30998
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
04:55 PM ET (US)
Nevermind I found it...
30997
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
04:31 PM ET (US)
can anyone tell me the form # for travel reimbursement to submit to OWCP
thanks
30996
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
02:18 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
I will show her and talk to her about it.
I got the paperwork from OWCP today about the accepted conditions (the Spondylosis of the Cervical and Thoracic regions). The funny thing is the Cervical Spondylosis was diagnosed for the CA2 claim. This whole thing is so confusing! I have my appt with Dr M Thursday so I will talk to him about what I need from him and then Fri I will submit the CA7 and CA20 at the same time. Donna said they need to sent together to avoid delay and since my appt is only a few days away I will wait... I need so badly some income I am so in debt right now...
30995
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-05-2017
11:13 AM ET (US)
Have you shown it to Donna? She should probably be grieving it?
30994
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-04-2017
07:22 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
The letter I rec'd is a letter if demand from the Post Office for $700.00 and change...your post said "when you go back to work"...as though they should not have sent this to me. I've not been back to work since May and I've not been out a year either...?
30993
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
09:21 PM ET (US)
Dweaver. You're welcome. Try to give yourself some downtime from all of this. I know it's extremely difficult to clear your head and catch your breath. I feel the sane way too. Its overwhelming at times and feels like it's consuming your life. Take the day off from it all tomorrow and take some quiet time for yourself. Do something relaxing and fun for yourself.
30992
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
08:38 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
I know sweetie. I am trying hard to keep it together, my depression has just got me so mentally overloaded. And I have no clue as to all this stuff and what needs done that I focus on one thing at a time rather than a looking at the whole picture. It just seems that for every step forward I fall back on my butt. Not just two steps back, actually fall back...thanks for all you guys are doing for me it is appreciated more than you know!!! So thank you so very much, when I know you have a lot on your plate too....
30991
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
08:18 PM ET (US)
I didn't say you won't get paid.owcp makes that determination. Call on Tuesday and speak with them. Try to stay calm and deal with this stuff one step at a time.i know its difficult and frustrating. Ive been dealing with it for over 20 years. It will make you crazy if you let it. Don't let it. It's possible they will request info from Dr. Marotti on restrictions. If you fly off the handle you wont be able to deal with the things you need to do and you could lose. There's too much at stake. There are lots of people trying to help you and esources to educate yourself.
30990
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
06:45 PM ET (US)
It says my claim is "open for medical care of the accepted conditions"....so that means the only thing they are paying for is my medical? Which has probably already been submitted to my regular insurance...WTF i can't win any f#cking way here.....I can't stand this up and down all the time I just want to give up EVERYTHING!
30989
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
06:21 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
OMG what the heck is going on? Who determines if I get my pay? I am so thoroughly confused
30988
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
05:02 PM ET (US)
60 is not awol.It is regular lwop.Having your claim approved for "medical" does not mean you will get paid for time off work. Call and speak to someone on Tuesday to find out. They can tell you if a letter went out and where you stand. They close for lunch from 1 to 2 and then at 4. Is Aetna your health insurance provider? You should call them about the bill. I wouldn't just ignore it.

Leave buy back is to buy back sick leave, if you used any, when your claim is,approved.

You can find info on the owcp classroom.
30987
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
03:36 PM ET (US)
I've gone back through my online pay stubs and the only codes that have been entered, for the most part, is 60, I didn't see any 049..... so all this time it looks a though I have been AWOL????
30986
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
03:24 PM ET (US)
Rivkah (30979)
No I didn't have to pay for a "narrative" it basically was the same thing that he stated before in letter to OWCP.... so I'm glad I didnt' pay $1,000 for something I already had!
30985
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
03:21 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
It is from Aetna that is all i know... I also do not have dental or eye... I did get paperwork about leave buy back (again which I know nothing about) so I have no clue whats going on with anything really other than the post office is trying to screw me over, again, on this "hours codes" thing..... I have a call in to Donna or Diana to address that so hopefully I can get that fixed. I didn't receive any official paperwork from OWCP regarding my case yet. I just happened to call in yesterday and the automated voice stated that the case was open to the medical....
30984
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
01:08 PM ET (US)
Dweaver Is it for your health or life insurance? Those you shouldn't get billed for. The post office pays the life insurance and you don't have to pay it back. Health insurance is,covered for up to 1 year. When/if you go back to work, you will get a letter of demand with different options for repayment. You should be able to pay it off slowly. I believe 15% of disposable pay. If you stay on owcp long term it would come out of your check. The dental & vision (anything under benefed) does have to get paid now . So would long term care insurance. Shared services can answer questions on those.Did you get a form asking if you want to continue your health insurance?
30983
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
12:27 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
I have been getting bills to pay for my insurance, I owe them 1,400 or so. Donna has told me not to worry about them but I don't want to lose my insurance....I'm so confused here...
30982
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
12:10 PM ET (US)
Neice Hope you have a nice vacation. Most of the supervisors are clueless about owcp or even how to do an adjustment. They will give a million excuses why they can't do it.
30981
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
11:55 AM ET (US)
Dweaver, Rivkah - Hi there. Yes, I'm doing well... won't be on for a bit - mini-vacation. Okay - if you already know your supv isn't going to fix this, then I don't blame you for going directly to union.
30980
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
11:49 AM ET (US)
Hi Niece. Hope you are well. It looks like,we must be typing at the same time.:)
30979
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
11:46 AM ET (US)
Dweaver You should talk to Donna about the leave category.To get paid by OWCP it must be coded as lwop/iod/owcp 049. All of your lwop and awol needs to be changed to this before your ca7s can be processed properly. Let Donna know your claim has been approved. Did you actually speak with someone at owcp who said your claim was aporoved.? HRM won't fix it until they are notified by owcp that it is approved. Definitely get Donna's help with this. A pay adjustment will have to be done for every pay period. I would wait to file your ca7s until it's fixed. You will know it's done by checking your paystubs online and looking at the adjustments. It will show the incorrect codes as a minus and the correct codes as a plus. I used to do timekeeping and process adjustments and have management mess up my pay and lwop constantly.

Your being off is not unscheduled. You can send in leave slips to the supervisor rather than calling. Make a copy of every slip.

The ca7 must be dated on whatever day you send it. New ones should be faxed the Monday of the first week of each pay period. For already past pay periods once the lwop is fixed fax them and date them that day.

On the first ca7, you will list your dependents. You will get 75% of your pay at the time of injury. It is not taxable. If you had dental or vision insurance they should have contacted you to make payment arrangements. When/if you go back to work you must let them know.

Did you end up having to pay for the narrative? If you did or had any bills out of pocket, you should submit them to acs for reimbursement.
30978
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
11:45 AM ET (US)
Neice
Going straight to union. I don't deal with super any longer...thanks for telling me this. Really have a hard dislike for the USPS right now all the way around!!!
30977
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
11:40 AM ET (US)
Dweaver - Your post 30976: You are gonna have to get your supv to do a 2240 to change those codes to owcp/lwop 049. Tell supv you didn't know you were supposed to request code049 lwop/owcp. I think 24 is awol - not good and 60 is lwop - also not good. 24 & 60 go against your retirement computation. If the supv doesn't change these codes on a 2240, then get your union involved to have the supv fix this. The day that owcp accepted your claim is the date the code 049 is supposed to be input.

I would do the ca7 on Tuesday when the HR-Injury Comp people are working. If you have a dependent you receive 75% of your pay and w/o a dependent you receive 66-1/3% of your pay. The schedule to turn in your ca7 is the Monday after the end of a pay period. [which I think is 9/4/17 - but holiday - so wait till 9/5/17]
30976
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
10:07 AM ET (US)
Rivkah
On my paystub the hours codes either: 24 (absence without leave) or 60 (full day LWOP). I don't know what the 24 is about?
30975
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
09:57 AM ET (US)
Rivkah
Yes Dr M is the one who did the narrative.
I am still not sure of the CA7: so, I date it for Monday and fax it that day? And then call OWCP in two weeks to check and make sure they rec'd it?
How much of my pay do I receive? I don't think it's the full pay, so do they have a formula they use?
You asked me if I got the "schedule" to file
CA7's? I didn't get anything from HRM. Everything I have I got from OWCP site and printed out myself.
As far as my check stub, I have been filing my leave under LWOP, and for the longest time (since my Jan injury) I filed my leave, via the call in line, under COP. I didn't know any better, nor was I told any different from Donna....
30974
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
08:38 AM ET (US)
Dweaver You don't need the ca7a.The Ca7 asks are you filing for intermittent pay.Answer no. The 7a is for when you work part days or weeks. Did you get the schedule to file ca7s from hrm? It has this coming Monday whuch is the holiday. I would date them all and fax on Monday. They akways have to be dated the day they're faxed. Your fax receipt is proof when it was sent. You don't get anything from hrm went it is processed . The only way to know is to call owcp and speak to someone. My experience is hrm does them on time. Give it a couple of weeks and call owcp.They should be able to tell you if they need anything more from the dr and when you should be paid. Do you look up your paystubs on liteblue? Check to may sure your lwop was put in as iod/owcp/code 49. Have you been submitting your leave slips that way?

Was Dr. M. The one who did the narrative for that claim? Is that the one they asked to be paid for?
30973
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
08:04 AM ET (US)
Rivkah
I have the IFWAA appt the 13th. I was denied the reconsideration on my CA2 (which is why I am going to this appt). OWCP sent me another reconsideration to submit for this appt with IFWAA so I'll do that once I have this appt.
30972
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
08:01 AM ET (US)
Rivkah
I've only the last "excuse" from Dr M. and no, it only states that I am off until he sees me again after my second epidural injection. That appt is the 7th.
So I don't submit the CA7a along with the CA7? Should I fax it today, and give them five days from Tues? How will I know they submitted it?
30971
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
07:57 AM ET (US)
Dweaver. Did you win on the original claim or a reconsideration? Have you been to ifwaa yet?
30970
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
07:53 AM ET (US)
Dweaver. DON'T give the CA7 to the supervisor. It will disappear. The answer to compensation claimed is yes.It means you are asking to be paid.Your payments are not intermittent so you don't need to do the ca7a, only the ca7. Fax it to HRM. Do you have the number? HRM has 5 days to process it. Did Dr.M. state clearly why you cannot work?
30969
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
07:40 AM ET (US)
Taylor A chiropractor can be your treating physician for owcp if you have a subluxation of the spine. If that's the case, make sure he states that in the narrative. You will get a claim number shortly after owcp receives your claim.You will also get information to give to your doctors on how to become a participating provider and how to submit bills. USPS HRM will also send info to give to your doctor to send ALL medical reports to them. Don't do it. Tell your doctor usps is only entitled to your restrictions. Don't give the ca20 to the doctor. Just have them do the narrative and ecomp to owcp.The instructions will also be in the information they send you. The owcp classroom which Niece mentioned is a great resource.
30968
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-02-2017
07:14 AM ET (US)
Yes, Dweaver, that's the big hurdle, getting your claim accepted - Congrats on that.

Taylor - I feel for you. You can go to a orthopedic doctor and use your own insurance to get your medical care. There's gotta be an orthopedic doctor where you live that accepts owcp if your claim eventually gets accepted. Look at the Owcp classroom website list of doctors.
30967
Taylor
09-02-2017
05:19 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the response snowed. I am to late to file a Ca-1. But really confused about the ca-2. I do know you have 30 days to fill out a ca-2 when you should have known about the injury. It wasnt traumatic, it gradually increased in severity. I took off work for a few weeks, felt somewhat better, then it increased again after returning. My chiropractor gave me light duty limitations and i know a chiro is not acceptable documentation with owcp. Now it is beginning to really get the best of me, trouble is I do not have a doctor who accepts owcp who can write the narrative to connect the dots to get a claim approved. Can I file the ca-2 without the physician report, and then have 30 days to obtain it ? No doctor will even see you unless you have a case number and you cant get a case number unless you submit the claim. Does owcp, even before approving your claim issue a case number while one is attempting to gather the evidence ?
30966
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
09:10 PM ET (US)
thanks neice
I just hope they don't take their good old time about it, I am dying for money as it is.... I'll do that tomorrow and hope for the best plus Mon is a holiday which is even crappier to have to wait longer but hey, beggars can't be choosers right. I am just thankful this claim has been accepted.
30965
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
09:05 PM ET (US)
Dweaver - Whenever I have to fill out a CA7 & CA7a to get reimbursed, I just fill out my portion, sign & date it and then fax it up to HR Injury Comp Specialist. They fill out stuff and they submit it to OWCP to reimburse me.
30964
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
08:41 PM ET (US)
what are they asking when on the ca7 it says "compensation claimed"?
30963
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
08:32 PM ET (US)
can I file a ca7 online?
30962
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
08:22 PM ET (US)
Rivkah (30960)
Because I didn't file a CA1 right away or in the time allotted so I missed out on COP... about the CA7. Do I have to fill out my portion and then take it to my supervisor to fill out the USPS portion?
30961
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
08:17 PM ET (US)
If you remain on owcp for awhile, I believe you can request to be put on the periodic rolls. You would then get paid every 28 days and will not need to file ca7s any more.
30960
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
08:15 PM ET (US)
Dweaver. Congratulations. Did you get COP when you were 1st injured in May. If yes, file ca7s for each pay period from the date cop ended. If no cop, file ca7s from the date of injury. You will do a ca7 for each pay period. It takes a few weeks after each ca7 is filed to get paid. If you file a bunch at once you will get a separate deposit for each pay oeriod.
30959
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
07:57 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I haven't gotten the official paperwork so I don't know when it covers or even what it covers....and this is for the newer CA-1 that occurred in May, so, I can file for monetary compensation for the period since then correct? And am I correct in assuming that you get paid (wage compensation) once a month?
30958
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
07:51 PM ET (US)
To be eligible for COP you need to file a CA-1 within 30 days of injury.
30957
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
07:46 PM ET (US)
Taylor- You get COP if your CA-1 is approved. If your injury was aggravated during any ONE day you can have a valid CA-1. File a CA-2if you cannot identify by time and place the aggravation during one day.

I was injured then went back limited duty for a few days. Each day aggravated my injury. I filed a CA-1 for 2 of the days and they both were accepted.
30956
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
07:41 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Great news. File your CA-7's. Just make sure your medical covers the periods of disability claimed.
30955
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
09-01-2017
03:13 PM ET (US)
So I called OWCP and my case is open for the accepted medical conditions...uhm, what does that mean? Does that mean I can file for my back pay? Please tell me yes, I am in the "beyond poor" poor house!!
30954
Taylor
09-01-2017
05:48 AM ET (US)
Is there COP for an aggravated pre-existing condition ? If not, if your doctor insists you stay off work (once case is accepted ) would you be compensated via CA-7 for that time ? Do you file a CA-2 for aggravation of pre-existing condition made worse through work?
30953
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-31-2017
06:53 AM ET (US)
Does owcp have a time limit for processing aca2a?
30952
Roy
08-29-2017
04:58 PM ET (US)
Help, I am in a MSPB appeal and I am looking for a postal manual reference about limited duty assignments wherein it states; that a lower level custodian (level 4) can be assigned to a higher level limited duty assignment (level 6) position. I referenced the EL 505 chapter 11 exhibit 9c, Restoration Rights and Benefits pages 280 and 281 (January 22, 2015) to the MSPB judge and it was rejected . I am asked to identify some other postal manual that says that a lower level custodians (level 4) can be assigned to a higher level limited duty assignment (level 6) position. Can anyone provide me with such references? Thanks
30951
Snowed
08-29-2017
02:57 PM ET (US)
Gettin- your math might be off because OWCP pays every 28 days not once a month? Your claims examiner handles insurance changes and you should call OWCP.
30950
Getting worse
08-29-2017
02:28 AM ET (US)
I noticed last two OWCP payments were about $300 higher and certainly won't spend, but the one says I have to pay over 900 for Mailhandlers who uses Aetna which news says is not doing well. So, it was about 500 dollars and then my last benefit statement which was about $300 dollars over put N/A
for having health benefits and 0 taken out for my health benefits through Mailhandlers. So, I'm concerned two months in a row they have not taken
money out for health benefits. And the simple math on how they calculate my beneifts the simple to do math is wrong. It's bizarre. Know someone local that got letter they'd be over paying him and that he knew since approx 2002 and they are going to start taking 250 a month deduction till he pays them back but doesn't explain how he was over paid.
And I don't know if I call OPM, OWCP finace? my Claims Examiners, because Mailhandlers has said nothing about not getting their agency pay. What ever. It's bizarre. Who do I call to straighten this out. OPM? Claims Eaminer? Try and find a number for OWCP Finance dept? Thank you for any help and I felt this is happening to others. Of course I feel it's intentional and I have suffered the last 3 years or so getting jacked around and they violated my Medical Privacy and wrote VA and told them they are paying for my condition and she wants every paper, payment, etc from VA but the VA does not pay me a penny for my Post Office on the job injury. I called the dept of VA it was sent to and they knew nothing about the letter or would not tell me how they handle situation like this. This is bizarre. I did not address it. I'm on egg shells with the games. Thank for any help or anyone else had these things happen.
30949
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-27-2017
07:59 PM ET (US)
Hi Fallenstone! Yes that is true but the injured worker must be able to work 4 or more hours per day.
30948
Fallenstone
08-27-2017
06:44 AM ET (US)
Clarkd...Hi Snowed...Been a long time...Clarkd...If you are a full time regular letter carrier a job for less than 4 hours a day is not considered a valid job offer by OWCP. If you are a PTF, a position for less than 4 hours a day is considered a "valid" job offer. I have refused positions that were for only 2 hours a day. P.O. knows that they will not be successful in challenging your OWCP compensation benefits for refusing a job offer for only 2 hours a day. That dos not mean they won't try to intimidate you into accepting it, by threatening that they will notify OWCP of your refusal of a job offer, and cutting off your compensation bebefits
30947
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-18-2017
11:06 PM ET (US)
Clarkd-

"FECA Bulletin No. 09-05 outlines procedures when light-duty positions are withdrawn under the NRP. If the claimant has been on light duty due to an injury-related condition without an LWEC rating, or OWCP has set aside the LWEC rating, payment for total wage loss should be made based on the Form CA-7 as long as the following criteria are met: (1) the current medical evidence in the file (within the last 6 months) establishes that the injury-related residuals continue; (2) the evidence of file supports that light duty is no longer available; and (3) there is no indication that a retroactive LWEC determination should be made. Retroactive LWEC determinations should not be made in NRP cases without approval from the district Director. FECA Bulletin No. 09-05 states that if the medical evidence is not sufficient, OWCP should request current medical evidence from the employing establishment and the claimant."
30946
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-18-2017
10:39 PM ET (US)
Clarkd-
If the USPS withdrew your job then offered you less hours with a new job it's still withdrawal of limited duty. You file a CA-2A beginning the day you start losing pay. File a CA-7/7a for each pay period.
30945
Clark d.
08-17-2017
11:37 PM ET (US)
Thanks Snowed.When i have to fill out CA-2A ?A day of widrow my job offer means offered me new light duty job?please guide me again .Thanks.
30944
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-17-2017
11:08 PM ET (US)
Clark'd. Sounds familiar....
You should be allowed to go back to your limited duty job if it's in your restrictions. If they withdraw your limited duty job you might need to file a CA-2A for withdrawal of limited duty.
30943
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-17-2017
11:02 PM ET (US)
Dweaver- /m30939
You have an appointment soon with tha advocacy group. They should advise you.
Edited 08-17-2017 11:03 PM
30942
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-17-2017
11:00 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
You are FERS and only need 18 months in to be eligible for Disability retirement. Call and get a packet. You might want to get an experienced lawyer. You get 60% of your high 3 the first year and 40% after that until age 62. https://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/fe...ent/#url=Disability

You also get to keep benefits
Edited 08-17-2017 11:04 PM
30941
Deleted by author 08-16-2017 03:44 PM
30940
Clark d.
08-16-2017
11:18 AM ET (US)
After my 2nd injury denied i back to work for 2 hours/day.Before i was working 4 hours/day due to my past injury limited duty.
Now post office telling me to give new job offer for 2 hours/day, light duty as current my claim is on denial status .My question to you that can i work my privious job for 2 hours/day instead of 4 hours/day?or new job should be totally new?how it work?This is light duty pruvious one was limited duty?what are rules and regulations for light duty and limited duty?If my case approved in future than how it will change?
30939
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-15-2017
10:03 PM ET (US)
I have an appt with an IFWAA rep and Dr. on Sept 13. The only thing is that OWCP will probably have a decision on my request for reconsideration by then....? This is the CA2 claim for my neck that they've already denied once..if they deny my request in the interim what should my next move be?
30938
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-15-2017
09:57 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I don't have near enough time in...I've worked for the PO for a total of 7-8 yrs or so but only 4 of them are as a career employee. I just turned 49 in July. But I am probably going to have surgery within the next 4months....
30937
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-15-2017
09:54 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Don't terminate of your own accord. You call Shared Services and ask for a disability retirement package. How many years do you have federal service and how old are you?
30936
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-15-2017
09:26 PM ET (US)
Snowed
If I terminate my employment with the Post office how do I get my retirement? And would I get all of it?
30935
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-12-2017
11:15 PM ET (US)
BDeAnn-
No you cannot collect both at the same time. If you are eligible for a schedule award based on permanent impairment to a scheduled member you can collect that and your retirement.
30934
BDeAnn
08-11-2017
02:38 PM ET (US)
I have an accepted partial disability from OWCP. I'm under 50 with 21yrs at the Post Office. I recently started my disability retirement packet but my question is..... Since OWCP pays me for 4hrs a day, will I continue to get my 4hrs worth of pay from OWCP along with my disability annuity, which would be less than $2000 a month? I read somewhere where you wouldn't get paid from both but since they pay half my wages, would it continue?
30933
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-09-2017
10:59 AM ET (US)
No different body parts
30932
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-08-2017
10:02 PM ET (US)
Rivkah-
Is the injury the same as your old injury? If so he can bill the old claim.
30931
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-08-2017
02:38 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
Just say it's a WC claim that hasn't been decided yet, give them the claim # and they'll submit it if not they submit it to insurance. Just tell them to let you know what they end up having to do so you at least know...
30930
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-08-2017
02:34 PM ET (US)
I understand that. My question is should I have them bill it to owcp initially.
30929
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-08-2017
12:30 PM ET (US)
Rivkah (30928)
They'll automatically bill your regular insurance if they, in any way, don't get paid. If they are denied by OWCP, if they haven't made a decision, they will submit it to your reg insurance. You could ask them to wait but they would only so long anyway.
30928
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-08-2017
08:57 AM ET (US)
Since my new injury was denied & being appealed should I have the new dr bill owcp or my health insurance?
30927
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-08-2017
06:52 AM ET (US)
M/30926 They don't operate in my area. I called them yesterday morning.
30926
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2017
11:20 PM ET (US)
http://ifwaa.org/
30925
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2017
02:39 PM ET (US)
You can call ACS and maybe get some idea how much they pay.The # is 866 335 8319
30924
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2017
02:26 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
I don't want to cause strife in my relationship with Dr Marotti because they are part if the same practice .. I contacted Dr Marotti's LPN this morning so I'm waiting to hear back from her. I did all the paperwork and stuff regarding the questions OWCP needs and left the medical opinion and the medical reasoning for him to add to.. we'll see how it goes ..
30923
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2017
02:20 PM ET (US)
Dweaver OWCP does pay for reports.I recently asked Snowed about it. She said its based on the length.if the drs office contacts acs, they may be able to get more details. Argires Jr. Would probably do no better than your dr. His father James is now retired & does IME's. His info is on imenet.com. A consult with him may be worth your while.Since yourclaim hasn't been approved yet, you don't need a referral but it couldn't hurt to ask for one. James used to be in practice with them. He was supposed to be 1 of the better nerosurgeons in the area. As an independent medical examiner he should know how to write the report & has probably treated lots of potal employees in his career.
30922
neicePerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2017
11:46 AM ET (US)
Dweaver - I understand you're in a pickle. Call your doctor's office and let them know why you need to see Dr. Argires. Maybe Dr. Argires will help your doctor with your medical narrative.
30921
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2017
11:12 AM ET (US)
Neice
I don't need/want to change Drs. I just want one who's not gonna charge me to connect the dots for OWCP. . I just don't want my Neurosurgeon to get his cackles up and take offense to my persistence.... I don't have an appt with my Neuro Dr again until Sept and I need to have this narrative before then, hence my predicament....
30920
neicePerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2017
10:42 AM ET (US)
Dweaver - If your doctor refers you to a doctor, then owcp pays for it. As long as your doctor refers you for a reason. I am not sure if owcp will pay if your doctor refers you to the same kind of doctor as him though. Maybe someone else knows.
30919
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2017
10:28 AM ET (US)
Snowed (30918)
I have looked on that list. Dr Argires is another Neurosurgeon in the same practice as my Neuro. Dr. so that wouldn't work... I am sorry about my previous posts, I am trying to keep my composure and you're right I should be listening to and accepting this advice. So I am going to. I agree that my having to pay for what he should've out into his report already is shitty but I'm stuck and can't really do much about it.... How can he bill OWCP for this? I can call his office and talk to them if I know how he can do it....
30918
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2017
12:31 AM ET (US)
Owcp classroom also has a list of doctors that accept OWCP claimants. There's a doctor in PA.
30917
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
10:37 PM ET (US)
Where do you get the $50 figure anyway?
30916
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
10:25 PM ET (US)
DWeaver-
I never said you should pay anything. YOU said you were paying it. I don't think you need it. You might want to listen to the free suggestions. A doctor who takes workers comp shouldn't charge you anything. It might even be ethically and legally wrong. The doctor can bill OWCP for the report.
30915
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
08:22 PM ET (US)
I understand how you feel.I don't believe they should be able to put your job up for bid if you haven't reached maximum medical improvement (MMI). You may want to speak to the local business agent.You can get his contact info on the APWU website. Anyone on here know the regs on taking away someone's bid job when they've been injured and have a claim in process?
30914
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
07:49 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
Donna said that it is because they NEED someone there in that position. Whatever, I'm going to try for a small post office around my area and bid maybe. Dont know I just have to do one day at a time for now or else I'm going to lose it....
30913
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
03:24 PM ET (US)
Really Snowed,
You think a $50.00 reimbursement while taking a $950.00 hit is worth it? I am sorry but I don't know what to say to that one..... considering I have no money, cannot work and am soon going to be in the looney bin....where am I to turn? My family is by no means able to afford to give me any money to help- if only life were so kind.... that there was somewhere to turn. NOPE, lucky me and I have to keep fighting OWCP, and people wonder why postal employees turn "postal" really you could think that OBVIOUS! I'm just going to prepare it myself, take it to the Dr, tell him copy it if he wants to, or not and hope for the best. Trust me when I tell you I am laughing already its a F'ing joke the OWCP and its ability to take away any quality of life we try to protect with "insurances" against shit happening. Like I said I would love to dig a hole and just die there...
30912
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
03:14 PM ET (US)
I believe there are sample medical reports at the owcp classroom. The nalc website has great info. Better than apwu, but you can find things to help on there also.

This process is extremely stressful but try to hang in.
30911
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
03:09 PM ET (US)
You can Google ecab. Look for cases that were won and why. Check out the medical reports for the type of language used and the drs that did them. At the top you'll see the names of the lawyers and/ or advocates.You'll notice the majority of cases are postal service.

How long since you've worked your bid? Is it just your job or are they abolishing a bunch of assignments?
30910
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
12:51 PM ET (US)
Oh and by the by, they posted my job or are getting ready to ...this just keeps getting better and better.....
30909
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
12:13 PM ET (US)
Thank you neice.....I will look into biomechanics of the back and neck and try to come up with something I only have til the end of the month. My development letter was dated 7/31/17..
30908
neicePerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
12:02 PM ET (US)
Dweaver - owcp only needs a 51% medical rationale by your doctor. He needs to use words as he has "reasonable medical certainty" that work related injury contributed in any way to your disabling condition and use the words such as: caused, contributed, accelerated, precipitated or aggravated a pre-existing condition or caused or new condition. He needs to state the work duties that caused or aggravated or contributed to your disabling condition. He needs to state the job mechanics [body parts which you use to do your job] and mechanics of what the job mechanics did to you [parts of body affected-disabling condition]. Look up the bio-mechanics of neck injury, back injury...
30907
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
11:41 AM ET (US)
Rivkah (30895)
I don't know, at this point, how to even know what to look for to search Ecab decisions...
30906
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
11:37 AM ET (US)
Snowed
It wouldn't even be worth the $50.00 I'd get reimbursed, for the medical narrative...
30905
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
10:40 AM ET (US)
Dweaver/
Also the word "believe". Is not a good word to use by a doctor. Better: "In my reasoned medical opinion, Mrs Weavers medical conditions were aggravated by her job duties on..."
30904
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-06-2017
10:30 AM ET (US)
Have you asked Donna if she knows a doctor that can help?
30903
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
11:58 PM ET (US)
That may be your problem. Here is a link I would strongly advise you to read and show to your doctor. He needs to clearly explain how your diagnosed conditions are related to your work. Consistency in his language would help. Remember claims examiners are regular people so "degenerative disease" may not click to them as being "spondylosis " or "disc displacement". http://www.nalc2184.org/files/CA-2_Tool_Kit.pdf
Edited 08-06-2017 12:10 AM
30902
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
11:48 PM ET (US)
Snowed
On the CA20 he put:
Thoracic disc displacement
Cervicalgia
Spondylosis w/o myelopathy
Cervical disc displacement
Radiculopathy
30901
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
11:43 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
What is the diagnosis due to injury put on the report?
30900
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
11:39 PM ET (US)
Ca-2A info: https://www.nalc.org/news/the-postal-recor...nt/Compensation.pdf
30899
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
11:18 PM ET (US)
Snowed
Yes, it was listed as one of the documents they rec'd in the development letter I got.
30898
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
11:16 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I was just going to give him the letter listing the six things they give everyone's Dr to answer:
1-Dates/treatment
2-History/date of injury
3-Detailed description of findings
4-Results of x-ray and lab tests
5-Diagnosis & clinical course of treatment
6-Physicians opinion supported by medical explanation as to how the reported incident caused or aggravated a medical condition.
And hope $1,000 is sufficient to get the job done....
30897
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
11:12 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
That report was actually not bad. Request a copy of your file from OWCP. Also are you sure the medical report was received in time and considered in the decision?
30896
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
11:09 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Unfortunately many of us have to travel to a doctor who knows how to write a report. You. An submit your doctors narrative bill yourself to OWCP once your claim is approved. The only thing I would question is if he knows what is needed.
30895
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
05:25 PM ET (US)
$1000 is ridiculous. Most claims are lost because of reports like his. Without the proper medical a lawyer will be no help. Read ECAB decisions. That is how most claims are lost. I've been reading to see if there are any doctors anywhere in the area who did a proper report and also which advocates and or lawyers have won.
30894
Debbie Weaver
08-05-2017
04:21 PM ET (US)
I don't know that he "sold me out". He's just not connecting the dots between how physically difficult and taxing the job is in a body and how what I do has brought on and aggravated my "pre-existing" condition... One that I had no idea about til the Post Office brought it out. I will get this approved, if I have to hire a lawyer I will but I am so up and down between anger and frustration I'm driving everyone around me crazy...
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
30893
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
03:36 PM ET (US)
m/30890 m/30892 I'm so sorry. It is awful to have your own doctor sell you out. I accidentally deleted the email with your address. Please email me. I'll make sure I save it this time. I'm in the process of hunting for another doctor. I wouldn't go back to Marotti. What a rip off. He should be working for OWCP.
30892
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
02:45 PM ET (US)
I gave the Dr a statement to why I do at work-lifting, pushing, pulling and exactly what I was doing when I hurt my back, again. Obviously he didn't read it or else he could've connected the dots for DOL. Now it seems I'm going to have to come up with $1,000 for him to do this for me, without any kind if guarantee that he even dies understand it. ..I just want to crawl in a hole and call it quits... It's struggle for me to even get out if bed anymore this has me so stressed out...I know, we all go through it at some point but I am struggling right now....
30891
neicePerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
11:47 AM ET (US)
Dweaver - I'm not a doctor, but what I see here that's missing is, your doctor never wrote the mechanics of the job duties of what you do, he never wrote the mechanics of what you do to your body parts, ex. pull on the arm muscles which pull on the neck while sorting mail or lifting trays, etc. cause the cervical spondylosis because of ....more medical terms... [I don't know the medical terms here, just trying to give you a advise of what owcp needs]. Your medical narrative can not be general.
30890
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
08-05-2017
10:41 AM ET (US)
I rec'd my development letter from the DOL. It states "the documentation received to date has been reviewed, and it is insufficient to support you claim because:
A physicians opinion as to how your injury resulted in the condition diagnosed has not been provided."
Here is my question: I submitted paperwork via ecomp from my Dr that states. "...is a very pleasant woman who is a postal worker whom I saw in regard to a work injury that occurred on January 13, 2017. When I saw her previously, I diagnosed her with cervical spondylosis and thoracic spondylosis which was aggravated by her work activity and was resulting in the neck and middle back pain that she was experiencing. She returns to me today complaining of persistent pain. I wrote her a work note that will continue to keep her out of work at the this time. The patient also related to me that there was a separate incident where she hurt herself on May 13, 2017, at work. Again, the MRI that I reviewed with her of her cervical and thoracic spine which was on May 15, 2017. So that would have reflected any changes that occurred as a result of the injury. This was reaching out in front of her lifting up a tray, and then she was picking up her leg at the same time to try to gain support and be able to lift the tray, and she felt immediately searing pain paraspinal in the mid thoracic region radiating to her chest. She was having chest pain. She actually had an EKG done. She is following this as a separate Workman's Comp claim. Everything I said before constitutes the same in regard to this new injury. I believe it represents aggravation of her underlying degenerative disease. She does have quite advanced degenerative disease for someone who is 48 years old. It is very reasonable and common to see this degenerative disease aggravated by the type of activity that she describes at work."
What more does the DOL want?? I have talked to the Dr's office and they said that Dr Marotti would do a "narrative" probably the same as what I just typed, for $1,000. I just would like some feedback because why would I consider spending $1,000 for something that I already have and have submitted to the DOL?
30889
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
08-03-2017
08:53 PM ET (US)
/m30883
Rivkah- if you are released back to work and they won't let you work your limited duty job then file a CA-2A for withdrawal of limited duty assignment and include a current updated copy of your medical restrictions and file your ca-7 on old accepted injury.
30888
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30887
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-31-2017
10:33 PM ET (US)
when ever you or anyone have issue with your union file labor charges to light a fire under their azz.

https://www.nlrb.gov/what-we-do/investigate-charges

stop letting people push you around.
30886
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-31-2017
08:37 PM ET (US)
Snowed.The national human relations refuses to take calls from individual members. She, Sue Carney, only takes calls from the steward. My steward is the local president & whenever I've tried to get her to call Sue she's refused. In the past I've also been told that locals are autonomous & the national office can't make them do anything. The union has not done much to help for a long years. I sent you a couple of messages that I don’t think you've seen yet. Im reluctant to put tmi on hrre because my situation is too recognizable.
30885
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-31-2017
08:11 PM ET (US)
Rivkah-
Have you called national union? They can't refuse your legitimate grievance.
30884
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-29-2017
10:16 AM ET (US)
Guess no one gives a crap that my info is out there. I asked the owner and haven't gotten a reply. Yeah well I really don't give anyway, too much other stuff to worry about...
30883
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-28-2017
09:44 AM ET (US)
/m3087 To clarify. The ld job was for an accepted claim. I went out for a new injury, was released back to work & they won't allow me to come back. They have been playing games with my job since the nrp.
30882
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-28-2017
08:21 AM ET (US)
/m3087 my claim has not been accepted yet. If I win I will be paid at 75% not 80. I will lose thrift savings contributions + matching, no sl or Al, reduced ss for life. Under elm 546 usps must make EVERY effort to provide work for iod employees. There's also the risk of being put into voc rehab and reduced compensation. If an employee is capable of working they are better off working. The union has an obligation to grieve someone's job being taken away whether they are paid by owcp or not.
30881
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-28-2017
07:49 AM ET (US)
sorry postalvet I was beginning to do that and then stopped. Will try to use numbers for reference.
30880
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-27-2017
11:13 PM ET (US)
hello all posting here;

please try to use /m and post number when addressing posts
30879
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-27-2017
08:56 PM ET (US)
Sorry kc bmc
I thought you were talking to me in post 30877...
30878
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-27-2017
08:55 PM ET (US)
kc bmc
Don't know yet it's under review, still. They are at the end of their ninety days. I'm waiting for my denial letter which should be coming soon. I just got the CA2 that the supervisor filed and it says at the bottom portion ..."The whole story is not true. The employee was not injured here." I am livid....I am going to send in a reply to this to OWCP while they are still reviewing my case...
30877
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
07-27-2017
08:07 PM ET (US)
Do you have an approved OWCP case? If so, steward is correct. You'll get paid by OWCP (about 80%-tax free) and don't have to go to facility. Trust me once OWCP starts paying you directly, USPS will be contacted. You'll eventually get a limited duty assignment once again.
30876
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-27-2017
03:09 PM ET (US)
My steward has refused to file a grievance for my limited duty job being taken away. She said she will file if I don't get paid by owcp.She is convinced I'm not losing anything if I'm not allowed to work. I explained what I will lose but she won't help. I wish I could sue the APWU for collusion but have heard that's impossible. They are trying so hard to get all work into bid jobs. They have abandoned injured workers.
30875
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-27-2017
10:57 AM ET (US)
Scroll to the bottom of the page ant click on contact. You can send a message to the creator of the board and list messages though want them to delete. Hopefully they will see.
30874
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2017
10:28 PM ET (US)
Good lord! now it's showing my name too! I am using the device I made the post from but there is no "edit" or "delete" for me to use!?!
30873
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2017
10:25 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
You have to access the forum from the same device you posted.
30872
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2017
10:11 AM ET (US)
I have been waiting to but the the delete option doesn't show up in that post so I don't know how to. I thought I was texting my friend a text, not realizing it was posting here til it was up....
30871
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2017
10:09 AM ET (US)
Dweaver- you might want to delete that phone number. Stuff like tat you can post private mail at fed soup
30870
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2017
07:56 AM ET (US)
Postalvet
That's what I thought you meant. Unfortunately, I worked just as much as my co workers, if not more.
If you read the job description that is available via APWU, I all but laughed. The only thing I did remotely near that description was talk to supervisors at times . ...and that didn't even have to do running of the the line! My job description is more in line with just being a processing clerk...
30869
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
09:06 PM ET (US)
/m30868 what was meant in /m30773 was as a lead clerk you are the one who works less not more then other window clerks.
30868
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
03:46 PM ET (US)
postalvet (30773)
Could you explain what you meant by "you should be working less, something isn't right here"
30867
Debbie Weaver
07-25-2017
02:49 PM ET (US)
The only other portal I use is for uploading my documents on Ecomp....
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
30866
Debbie Weaver
07-25-2017
02:46 PM ET (US)
The only reason I've used ACS is to see if any of my bills have been paid. So I don't know regarding your question...sorry!Gosh I can't believe it's you! This is awesome!My number is 717-284-0868 if you ever want or need to talk!!!
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
30865
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
02:40 PM ET (US)
Does ACS no longer show acceptance info & medical conditions or am I doing something wrong. I haven't been on there in awhile.
30864
Deleted by author 07-25-2017 07:01 PM
30863
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
12:59 PM ET (US)
Federal Soup is a different site. I just signed up for it recently.There are public forums & private ones where only the person you're messaging can see your post.
30862
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
12:49 PM ET (US)
http://theowcpclassroom.freeforums.net/thread/1/welcome-new-forum
30861
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
12:48 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
Hmm, let me check.
30860
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
12:47 PM ET (US)
Dweaver

What area did you post? There is nothing in my inbox from you.
30859
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
12:09 PM ET (US)
Figured it out. I posted to you
30858
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
12:05 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
I do go to the federal soup site occasionally. I seen a post from you in 2014 but don't know how to post there..
30857
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-25-2017
11:59 AM ET (US)
Dweaver
I hope everything goes well with your claim. I haven't been able to post on here for a while. I was blocked for some reason.Do you participate on Federal Soup? You can post private messages. If you do, please get in touch with me on there? I would like to ask about your doctor.I believe we may work in the same area & I am looking for one.
30856
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-24-2017
09:32 PM ET (US)
Thanks for that postalvet!
And about letting "them" know what this has done to my personal life, I've made that known...my daughter has wanted me to go roller skating for months with her. Yeah it's been difficult. Very difficult but I'm trying to keep plugging away.. thanks again for all your posts and feedback! Much appreciated!
30855
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-24-2017
09:26 PM ET (US)
/m30854 when I met my current wife she had just been hired at the post office. she too is emotional and when they started harassing her other people sent her to me to help. so I understand just make sure they NEVER see your cry. go to the restroom or any where else to let it out.
good luck.
also in the future make sure any statement you make includes that you are also hurt at home and it makes everyday living hard.
30854
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-24-2017
07:56 PM ET (US)
Lmao postalvet
Why yes I am a female...heehee. I am very emotional, but trust me when I tell you I am every bit a redhead when it comes to going from 0-60, in the blink of an eye, if you piss me off...
30853
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-24-2017
07:51 PM ET (US)
/m30851 don't take this the wrong way but are you female?

if so you need to get a stiff upper lip and take out any emotion when dealing with management and owcp when dealing with your issue.

because like it or not management and owcp take advantage of emotional people.
30852
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-24-2017
07:10 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Good luck.
30851
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-24-2017
02:30 PM ET (US)
Snowed
Gotcha! I put together my employee statement with all pertinent info. I submitted it this morning and picked up the paperwork from my Dr and I cried in the parking lot. Because he put all the information that WC is looking for! Unlike the other Dr who included nothing about my injury or if work caused the injury or even aggravated it...hopefully...this is sufficient and they accept the claim.not holding my breath though...
30850
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-24-2017
10:23 AM ET (US)
No not perfect. I shouldn't say that. Make sure your narrative shows clearly where and when. "I was working limited duty on the workroom floor ant the post office located at 1200 postal hwy in Halifax, ND. At about 9:15 Am...."
30849
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-24-2017
10:16 AM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Perfect description. Put it in the narrative. Don't worry about what the boss says. They do that all the time.
30848
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2017
04:01 PM ET (US)
Sorry...should say I had to file another CA1..
30847
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2017
04:00 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I was on LD assignment because I pulled a muscle in my back. During this period I was lifting a full 2ft mail tray from an All-purpose Container to place on the table where I was working, as I lifted it (tray) from the APC it bent in half causing me automatically pull it (tray) to my chest while simultaneously bringing my knee up to keep it from dropping to the floor, I wrenched my back and he's to file a second CA1
30846
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2017
01:41 PM ET (US)
I dont really know the details of your injury or occupational disease so I just said put in the report what is relavant to your injury. You didnt tell us here at this forum, I dont believe, how a tray of letters added to your injury.
Edited 07-23-2017 01:44 PM
30845
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2017
01:39 PM ET (US)
I am not saying file a safety report now, i just posted for information purposes. If everyone tagged unsafe equipment when they were supposed to then there would be less injury because of it. One of the biggest saftey hazard when I worked was the hampers...wheels always sticking so pushing it felt like hunderds of pounds....TAG the equipment folks...
30844
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2017
10:50 AM ET (US)
Snowed, this occurred back in May. So I don't really think there is anything I can file for it now since that particular tray is God knows where by now. I, as you have guessed and can see, am oblivious to the going on in/at the Post office. I go there, do my job and that's it for me. I never thought to pay attention to "stuff" because it didn't pertain or affect me. But now that I've been hurt I've been trying to be in the "know"... it looks like I am to fill out the 1767, and hand it in to the supervisor (the same one who believes my injury didn't happen).. he'll look at me and laugh if I turn that in to him for a incident that happened two months ago!
30843
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2017
05:23 PM ET (US)
http://www.nylcbr36.org/pdf/S_H.pdf
30842
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2017
09:52 AM ET (US)
Postalvet
You didn't! It was meant to be one of those questions that does not need an answer because it was meant to be a stupid comment....is all
30841
Deleted by author 07-22-2017 11:17 AM
30840
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2017
09:22 AM ET (US)
Postalvet
I downloaded a 1767 to fill out and submit with my other paperwork for the DOL.
30839
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2017
07:42 AM ET (US)
So the 1767 is the new CA1?
30838
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2017
03:19 AM ET (US)
..if the "flimsy" tray added to your injury then describe the trays and put that in too but leave that out if it did not affect your injury.
30837
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-22-2017
03:17 AM ET (US)
Dweaver-
This kind of things you are angry about happen all the time. When you write your statement you can refute what management put on the CA-1 by stating the facts yourself. Exactly how and more describing in detail just how heavy the tray was. I would use your math. Whether or not you "safely" lifted is irrelevant to your claim. In your narrative leave out all anger and emotion...just facts.
30836
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2017
11:07 PM ET (US)
this is why I always say file a 1767!!
30835
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2017
09:10 PM ET (US)
Snowed:
On the CA1 that he printed out for me when he entered it into the computer has these few things that I take issue with
"What object or substance directly harmed the employee"? he answered, "Letter Tray approx 5lbs in weight according to employee. This could not be verified since the employee did not immediately report the accident." Anyone who's worked with these 2ft full letter trays know that they can weigh this amnt, If you have this letter tray, packed with approx 700 letters weighing 13 ounces (.8125) times 700 = 5.6875. They are heavy!


Next it is asked about "Potential Hazardous Condition or Equipment" he answered, "98-No defects or hazardous equipment or material" These trays have years of wear and tear on them, they collapse in the middle frequently because of the weight of the letters and the flimsy "material".

Lastly, under "Unsafe Practice(s)" he put "Improper lifting" this is BS to the highest. I was working this LD assignment because I hurt my back in January. I use safe techniques at all times because the job requires it! I also wear a brace around my waist to help keep my posture and because of the strain to the muscle I had...
Maybe I am being anal but I really take offense when someone tries to make me seem like I'm a slacker! He also stated that I didn't have witnesses. I guess a fellow employee coming up to me while I was in tears and asking me if I was okay doesn't apply. Or the union steward I was talking to after it occurred crying, doesn't apply! Wtf, I never told him about any witnesses and he never asked! But he put it in the CA1 as there were none.....
30834
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2017
07:25 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
It depends what it is.
30833
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-21-2017
04:27 PM ET (US)
Snowed (30819)
When I receive my file from OWCP, if I do see something to refute, do I send it in at that time or do I wait to see if my case is reopened due to my request for reconsideration?
30832
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-20-2017
06:11 PM ET (US)
Postalvet
You've got that right, they don't give one iota of thought to their underlings! I picked up the copy of my CA1 yesterday and was amazed at what he put for some of "management's" answers. That's why anyone reading this: be sure you are with your supervisor when they are filling a CA1 out!!!!!!!!!!!
30831
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
09:47 PM ET (US)
/m30829 "I am very ticked off the way my supervisor is treating this and me!!"

that statement is counter productive!!!!

all supervisors only care about two things
1 keeping their boss off their back
2 moving the mail out of their area of responsibility

they care NOTHING ABOUT YOU!!!!
30830
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
09:46 PM ET (US)
Dweaver
Your denial letter should state exactly what you need.
30829
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
08:50 PM ET (US)
noone listens
I have been reading up on WC rules. I have even read though some ECAB notices. I am trying very hard to get my claim(s) accepted.
No offense taken, but I am not sitting by "hoping" for the best. i am doing what I can because then if I do end up losing in the end, I have no one else. really to blame!
I am very ticked off the way my supervisor is treating this and me!! It's so annoying that when I think I am making some progress I seem to hit another wall. I also agree that I am bouncing, that's because I am trying to line up my ducks, however they are not staying in their perspective "row(s)", plus this whole process is very confusing to those of us that are novices.....just saying....
30828
noone listens
07-19-2017
07:51 PM ET (US)
Dweaver..reading your posts it seems to me you are bouncing all over the place. You are focusing on what your supervisor did or didn't do. The only thing you should be concerned about at this point is getting your claim accepted. The time you have spent here you could have been reading and learning owcp rules. I also found that reading ECAB decisions helped me. They explain why Dr.'s report lack connection, etc. I'm not trying to be offensive, but until you learn what you have done wrong you are your own worst enemy.
30827
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
03:12 PM ET (US)
By the way, if anyone is trying to call OWCP Philly of., They are closed doing inventory
30826
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
03:11 PM ET (US)
Snowed
It was my PCP not the Neuro Dr. that entered the incorrect code. I do believe the Neuro Dr did hers correctly.
I was just with my steward and I feel like I have nothing left....
30825
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
12:54 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I've been out for the past two months...
30824
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
12:34 PM ET (US)
Also if the doctor has you out of work 100% disabled then the details of the CA-17 or 5c are not required.
30823
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
12:31 PM ET (US)
I believe that unless you are eligible for COP medical is not required to the USPS. I could be wrong but if you are not able to work then YES you should at least submit a CA-17 or OWCP-5c or other note that shows a doctor is taking you out of work....you have 10 days to supply medical.
30822
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
12:21 PM ET (US)
Ugh, I hate when spelling is not correct... Sorry for those!
30821
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
12:20 PM ET (US)
Snowed
Sorry but I keep remembering things I wanted to post.
My supervisor filed me CA1, while I was with my union steward, tell me that's not F's up! I went and gave it to him 20 mins beforehand and he told me he could not file it because I didn't submit medical documentation with it, I went out to my car to leave and thought nope I'm gonna check with my steward, she said "nope, I'll meet you in his office." So we went in and he was on the phone with the case manager from Harrisburg filing it at that moment! My steward and I went in and she interrupted the call and said he could do it without documentation and he said "I know, that's what I'm doing!" So my steward and I left to do something else.... I'm pissed because in his report he stated that because I did not have any witnesses he didn't believe it occurred. He never asked me about witnesses and I never said anything about it!!!!!WTH...
30820
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
12:10 PM ET (US)
Snowed
Already sent request, good advice for me and others though. Thanks for the other advice regarding later on too
30819
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
11:47 AM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Keep sending in new medical as you get it. You should also write the District Director a request for a copy of your file to make sure all your documents are in there. You can also see what the USPS sent to OWCP and could have a chance to refute any problem issues.
if its your first request for a file send letter to your District Director at the street address. Put at the top PRIVACY ACT REQUEST. I ask for a copy on CD-ROM. The next time you request a copy of your file(Iwould do it every 30 days while your file is being developed and later after approval about every 3-6 months depending on the activity of your case.) Write the same letter but state "from the date of my last request to the present"...this way you will not be charges for duplicating file requests.
30818
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
11:02 AM ET (US)
Snowed
Just to clarify for you, my prior post was regarding my CA2, which was my neck. I called OWCP today to make sure they rec'd my request for reconsideration, based on my employee statement (never sent it in). Hopefully I'll be able to submit the CA20 into Ecomp in time as additional medical supporting evidence..
30817
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
10:55 AM ET (US)
Snowed
I never would have thought anything more after being denied. I would've gone back to work "painful" as that would've been and just settled for what they said "DENIED"!!!
It is you guys here that have made me want to fight back because I know that I did not have any issue prior to work! Even it is pre-existing, I never had trouble! But I certainly know it was work that made it horrible, and by that I should be compensated for my not being able to work!
30816
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
10:48 AM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Yes you need the doctor to connect the dots.AND you need a diagnosis in the report other than pain. No you are not wasting your time if you continue to learn and follow through with managing your claim.
30815
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
10:42 AM ET (US)
neice
I did read that OWCP does accept the Pre-existing condition with the proper medical opinion as to how work would aggravate it. Obviously, she did not do give such a narrative that would say one way or the other that work did cause my injury. So, I scheduled a follow-up appt with her next week and am going to give her paperwork: my employee statement about what I do at work, a CA20, etc. This way she will submit her findings, hopefully, that will support my claim of how my work absolutely caused my neck to become problematic.
Considering Spondylosis is Arthritis/Osteoarthritis it did not just occur. And I, as you stated, never had it diagnosed because I never had trouble with my neck. This is why I scheduled another appt with her because I have to make her understand exactly what I was doing at work and how this injury became a problem for me by my job..
30814
neicePerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
10:29 AM ET (US)
Dweaver - OWCP accepts aggravations of pre-existing conditions. The doctor has to state the mechanics of the work you were doing and how the mechanics of the job duties aggravated your neck. Maybe you don't even have a pre-existing condition in your neck. If you never got it diagnosed before, then it's not a pre-existing condition. Your work may have caused the whole neck injury. The doctor's narrative cannot be speculative! It must be certain!

Also, if your doctor can find a medical report which explains certain work, body mechanics causes neck problem, then doctor should also write this with the medical narrative for you.
30813
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
09:33 AM ET (US)
Snowed: (30809)
I did have an MRI done with this Dr for my Cervical Region. Which stated that I have multi-level degenerative changes. And multiple foraminal narrowing.. I understand that this largely a Pre-existing conditional that comes with aging. However because of the work I was doing, at work, has caused this spondylosis (which is new to me), and whatever else is going on in my neck,to become severely aggravated and limiting my ROM in my neck. This I think is what she didn't convey in what she submitted to WC.
30812
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-19-2017
09:22 AM ET (US)
Snowed, (30810)
But, does it make a difference if he put in such a general code as M54.9 (mid-back pain). At the time he filled that out I didn't have any studies done? So I scheduled a follow-up with the Neuro Dr I saw for my neck so I can go over with her exactly what WC is searching for and what they need her to say, in no uncertain terms. Because she certainly did not do that first time around and plus I didn't give her a CA20 to fill out either. Am I wasting my time doing this?
30811
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-18-2017
09:58 PM ET (US)
Rivkah-
/m30792
What kind of appeal are you filing?

/m30793
You can search Ecab for the doctors name but if you are the one hiring him he should be fair to you.
30810
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-18-2017
09:56 PM ET (US)
Dweaver
/m30791 the doctor just puts the ICD 9 code and diagnosis
30809
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-18-2017
09:54 PM ET (US)
Dweaver
/m30789 Yes get your medical diagnosis clarified whatever it is. Ask for an MRI if you haven't had one yet...any new medical.
30808
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
07-18-2017
06:37 PM ET (US)
You'll get paid same grade or saved grade. The job will be created just for you. That's right....you too will be on LD for years. And hopefully treatment will help w/ LD duties. Do you know that when on LD, bidding jobs will be impossible. Had a co-worker that wanted a secretary job but was on LD. She had doctor claim all is better, bid and awarded job, and then had doctor but her back on restrictions. We are our own worst enemy. That's why OWCP and management think everyone is just faking.
30807
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-18-2017
01:44 PM ET (US)
kc bmc
I thought USPS had to offer something with the same pay grade?
30806
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-18-2017
11:28 AM ET (US)
kc bmc
I found some paperwork regarding my retirement so I think I'm good on that...
In my light duty position I worked with a gal that's been through just about everything that could go wrong with a body and has been on LD for years...I hope eventually my body gets better but for now it's going through the wringer! I dread going back to work into the position that flared up this underlying Spondylosis. That means I'll forever be going through ups and downs (good and bad) with years of service still to put in....ugh!
30805
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
07-18-2017
11:19 AM ET (US)
NRP stands for National Reassessment Program which USPS instituted. Not controlled by OWCP. 2009 went national and lawsuits followed. They rarely go through that process due to a lot of defeats in the courts. http://www.apwu.org/news/deptdiv-news-arti...nst-injured-workers
30804
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
07-18-2017
11:12 AM ET (US)
The number on bottom of pay stub is money contributed to retirement. https://forum.federalsoup.com/default.aspx...&t=14777#post131346 I'm a 24 year employee level 7 and my amount is about $8000. I'm retiring 8/31. I had a back injury working as a dock clerk opening trailers 6/18/14. I've been fighting OWCP just for time missed which was about 4 months. Filed on my own since I thought everyone would look at injury and be fair about it. DENIAL Filed reconsideration on my own. DENIAL Hired attorney from Chicago as no local attorneys available. PARTIAL APPROVAL BUT NO COP PAID Had to pay that amount back. Sent me to doctor in OKC that specializes in comp cases. Currently awaiting OWCP decision. I've spent $5000 plus travel expenses thus far. I'm living this madness.
OWCP will submit to USPS job that employee shall be placed into. We had 2 carriers that were placed in our facility due to shoulder injuries. They gave them Tour 3 jobs (1830-0300) in the hopes they wouldn't take them and resign. Didn't happen of course and now both retired early. OWCP does not want to foot the bill. They can also find jobs in private sector. Had one employee sent to Wal-Mart!!
30803
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
08:37 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
What is "nrp"?
30802
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
08:33 PM ET (US)
Ok so I'm still confused on the Retirement thing. So am I to understand that what's on my paycheck, bottom right corner is the amount I've made since 2014 when I became full time? That's absurd!? I hope I'm wrong about that...so it just keeps adding up each PP year after year? I guess I should've been closer attention...?
30801
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
08:28 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
Is her name Angela Graham, that's the Occupational nurse in Harrisburg...?
30800
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
07:57 PM ET (US)
Kcbmc

OWCP can't reqire the Post Office to give you work. Look at the nrp.USPS does what it wants.
30799
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
07:16 PM ET (US)
Rivkah
That's mad crazy! There are certain things you can still do even when you have an injury,(my PT told me) that people think you shouldn't be able to do. If it doesn't cause me pain I don't think about it, but when it does I could kick myself for thinking "yeah, hey I can so this"..... then my body says "NOT"!!!! we all live and learn
30798
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
07:12 PM ET (US)
Dweaver. You mentioned the Harrisburg Nurse in one of your posts. Are you aware she's been in a detail in Labor Relations. Talk about a conflict of interest. She has access to all our medical. Don't trust her!!! She's not what she seems. She is not at all concerned about the welfare of the employees.
30797
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
07:08 PM ET (US)
They definitely do surveillance trying to prove fraud. I can't go into detail because I'm certain there are trolls on all the forums, but I had a supervisor tell me about a picture she had been shown and wanting to know how I could be doing what was in the picture. It was completely within my restrictions but she thought it wasn't. I'm also aware of another employee observed by management weeding her garden. Someone else putting up Christmas decorations. I've been dealing with this nonsense more than 20 years.
30796
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
06:50 PM ET (US)
Rivkah re:(30793)
How do you know you were being watched? I thought of the movies when I read that. Do they actually do that? That's freaking nuts!
30795
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
06:48 PM ET (US)
kc bmc
I get that people are always trying to pull one over on their jobs and such, especially when it concerns money. Don't get me wrong, I want my money too but I am only wanting what I've lost since this whole ball of sh*t has happened. And for my Dr bills to be paid. It's not like I can get any more than that, if no third party was involved.... I can only keep plugging away and hope at some point that when I finally do have to find representation that I'll get some money and these bills paid...so much fun in the land of OWCP & USPS!
30794
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
06:42 PM ET (US)
DWeaver: It's not my intent to "accuse" you of fraud. It's just what OWCP my consider. The whole process is ridiculous that's why you may need a professional to help w/ getting OWCP approval. Once you get approved, OWCP will instruct PO to come up w/ a light duty job for your limitations. Where I work OWCP employees do loose in the mails or mail that has broken up and needs to be put back together. They don't want you sitting at home and collecting monies. They will put you back to work. If you refuse you'll probably be terminated.
30793
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
05:51 PM ET (US)
Just found out from an OWCP lawyer I used in the past that the dr I scheduled with does do IME's for owcp and usually says what owcp wants to hear. He also said I'd probably be ok using him as my dr, but don't want to chance it. I feel sooo trapped & getting paranoid with all this. I feel like I'm being constantly watched as if postal management or an inspector is behind every bush. I know I was under surveillance a few years ago.I'm tired of dealing with the post office & owcp. What a nightmare.
30792
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
01:03 PM ET (US)
Snowed

I found a doctor through imenet.com. They said they have lots of postal employees. His training & credentials are just what I need. He does ime's but does not contract with owcp. They said he is comfortable with & willing to do federal owcp.

I have an appointment in August which is after the deadline for my paperwork. What are the chances of getting an extension.
30791
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
12:18 PM ET (US)
Just looked up OWCP/DOL codes so here's what I came up with:
Anatomical location:
Mid back which there is no code for except
BX- undefined

Nature of injury code:
MB- back sprain/strain, back pain, subluxation

Cause of Injury code:
#24- handling packaged materials, weight stated
#25- handling mail containers

Occupational code:
#48- mail clerk
#49- mail handler
Injury Type code:
#610- lifted, strained by

Source of Injury code:
0810- Box, barrel, Container, etc.

So my Dr should have put:
BX.MB.24.48.610.0810
30790
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
11:48 AM ET (US)
Snowed

I agree about the MRI.Unfortunately the doctor totally focused on it and would not give any explanation for my injury without "anatomical evidence.

I just called the number for feddocs.com. It's out of service.
30789
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
11:38 AM ET (US)
Postalvet or Snowed
Regarding my initial CA1 for my back. I was looking over the paperwork for this, namely the CA20.My Dr has for a Diagnosis in question #7,of the form, Mid-back pain! Since that (pain) is not an official diagnosis, can't I ask for reconsideration based on that? And have him fill out another CA20 with the correct diagnosis, which would constitute as new medical evidence??
30788
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
11:31 AM ET (US)
Rivkah-
I understand and it is good to get your MRI results clarified and made accurate. However you do not need to show a worsening of your condition via MRI to have your claim accepted.
30787
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
11:18 AM ET (US)
Snowed

He does not contract with usps but does with other employers. He was totally focused on the MRI results which he said was the same as before. I tried to get his office to order the MRI before my appointment so we could discuss it then. It didn't happen. He first ordered it when I had my appointment. The report indicated something had changed but he said it didn't. All follow up was done on the phone with his nurse.He got his hackles up when I contacted the radiology office for clarification.

I need a doctor that can read the MRI & comment or refute what he said. Most pain mgmt doctors don't do I'm about to start making calls but doubt I can get an appointment before my deadline.
30786
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
11:05 AM ET (US)
Rivkah-
He wont see you again??...sounds suspicious...is his office under contract with the USPS?,,,sounds familiar....

You can try pain management doctors or keep calling around...there are very few doctors around me too who take any workers comp anymore. You may have to travel but I would first try calling the union for a recommendation.
30785
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
09:12 AM ET (US)
Snowed My new traumatic injury claim is still being processed. I initially sent the ER report. The dr I went to did not do a proper medical rationale although I gave him all the info to do it. He did not answer OWCP questions or give a medical reason why he had me off work all this time. My deadline is the 21st. He pretty much threw me under the bus. He didn't even examine me & refuses to allow me to make a follow up appointment. He released me to go back 4 hrs a few weeks ago but USPS won't let me come back. I'm scrambling to find another doctor. My COP just ended. I'm going to call feddoctor.com. I couldn't find anyone nearby on their website. I also checked imenet.com & have 1 possibility. Any suggestions?
30784
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-17-2017
07:16 AM ET (US)
kc bmc re:(30779)
John, my MDO told me twice, that the light duty position that have to offer is the ONLY light duty job they have to offer! And that would be good, however that is how I incurred my neck issue (CA2)! Would any other person go back to doing what gave me incredible pain in my neck, shoulders and back? Seems I'll be in a catch-22, when/if I do go back to work....
30783
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
10:58 PM ET (US)
you really need to stop giving it to the mdo. imo
30782
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
10:00 PM ET (US)
kc bmc
Are you saying I'm trying to commit fraud?

Postalvet
Sorry I meant the ROM in my neck is really limited and it's hard to drive because I have trouble turning my head while driving.
30781
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
09:55 PM ET (US)
Postalvet
No the district office is in Philadelphia, long drive for my back and neck (my Room) is very limited...so turning it in in person is out. I just fax it to either the case manager (who is just a delight to deal with....NOT!!!!) Or the occupational nurse in Harrisburg. if I turn it in in person it's to the MDO John.
30780
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
09:47 PM ET (US)
/m30775 "do I now submit my stuff to either the occupational nurse or case manager, via fax"

does your plant also serve as the district office?

turn it in in person!
30779
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
09:21 PM ET (US)
DWeaver: https://www.dol.gov/owcp/regs/compliance/ca-10.pdf This form should be posted on employee bulletin boards. It gives you step by step instructions on what to do if injured at work. It is your responsibility to ask for proper forms. Management will not help you out. In fact they didn't even fill out their section on CA1 until 1 year later when OWCP wanted form. Retirement is out of question for you as you are not vested. Your only hope is disability retirement which probably won't happen. It takes years for an injury like yours to be approved. Ever hear of fraud. Also, you are fairly young so condition will probably improve. Your only hope is light duty status. OWCP will instruct management to make an offer. You are not going to get out of PO!!! Unless you resign.
30778
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
07:44 PM ET (US)
What do you all think about this. Last week when I wanted to turn in my CA1 one of the supervisors told me I had to see John the MDO to do it. So I had to wait three days til Mon. I took it in Mon and John told me I couldn't do it anyway because I didn't have any medical documentation to submit with it. So I went out to my car, called my union sterward and she said "nope, come back in I'll meet you down at his office." So we went to John's office and he was, I believe entering it into the computer! Donna told him he didn't need documentation to enter it and he said "I know, I'm doing it now." And we left. Shouldn't I have stayed there and done it with him? I didn't get any copies, no CA20 or CA-7 to give to the Dr or to fill out????? What the heck am I missing here. I've been reading the CA810 and he should've given me these aforementioned docs and had me sit down with him to file this CA1....am I crazy for thinking this is not right on the supervisors part?
30777
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
07:16 PM ET (US)
Postalvet
There was no break in between my being converted from PSE to PTF
30776
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
07:06 PM ET (US)
Postalvet
What do you mean I should be "working less"? You mean doing less of the physical work? Haha, that ain't happening....! I work with repetitive lifting of priority packages putting them into power packs for shipping, getting said power packs set up and when full getting the truck and taking it to the designated area where the material handler retrieve them and take them to the docks. It is non-stop physical work! And my body is really suffering because of it... If I wouldn't lose hours and money I'd go back to window clerking!
30775
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
06:59 PM ET (US)
Postal vet
Just meant that I didn't know anything about a case manager, or an occupational nurse with the USPS. Only after finding out that I had to deal with them, do I now submit my stuff to either the occupational nurse or case manager, via fax
30774
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
05:02 PM ET (US)
what does this mean?

"I end up, after I knew to"
30773
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
05:01 PM ET (US)
you are in a plant STOP dealing with the supervisor.

deal with injury comp and the district medical unit!!!!


your time starts when you because a PTF (career) and maybe a pse if there was no break in service when converted to career.

check your form 50.


as a lead clerk you should be working less. something is not right here.
30772
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
04:44 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
No notary is not necessary.
30771
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
12:19 PM ET (US)
Postalvet (30769)
He's the one I went to to give Drs excuses, etc. Then he faxes this stuff to the case manager for the USPS. He just relays between me and the case manager... I end up, after I knew to, faxing the stuff from Drs directly to her myself when I have/get them.
30770
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
12:12 PM ET (US)
Postalvet
I was a PSE at first, then made PTF (ft) in December of 2014, then came to PA from CT in 2015 June to the Post office here. My currant title is Lead Processing Clerk. My position is of a Processing Clerk though because I worked the machine just like anyone else.
30769
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
11:03 AM ET (US)
/m30767 why did you go to the supervisor with light duty? on the job injury is limited duty and is handled through the district injury and medical office.
30768
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
11:02 AM ET (US)
/m30767 so you have been fulltime for three years.
what are you?
clerk, carrier, mailhandler, etc?
were you a ptf, pse, cca, mha, or something else before becoming fulltime?
30767
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
10:37 AM ET (US)
kc bmc
I've been at the Post office FT for only 3 yrs. When I went to the supervisor after my injury with Light Duty request from my Dr, John said this was the "only" Light Duty they have to offer...I bet that would change should I go for the Early Disability Retirement option...
30766
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
10:25 AM ET (US)
Dweaver: I've asked of this before, how many years do you have in? The number on bottom of paystub really doesn't amount to a lot when it comes to retirement. My guess is 55 and 30 will be your MRA. FERS gets 1%/yr based on avg high 3. TSP use also has some rules that may benefit. If 59 1/2, withdrawal is allowed w/out penalty. Taxes will have to be paid though. My guess is you're not that old but you can take a loan out, but has to be paid off in 5 years. $5k shouldn't cost you too much extra.
As far as a disability case is concerned, it will take years to accomplish. They will continue to offer light duty based upon doctor's information on the amount of work you can due. If you refuse, you lose. They will also wait you out until you have to go bankrupt. Hire someone who can act on your behalf. ASAP
30765
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-16-2017
08:44 AM ET (US)
Snowed
(30762) does this statement have to be notorized?
30764
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
11:08 PM ET (US)
Snowed
My union steward told me that's what she would do with it. Honestly I don't know what to do about that one. I think the next step for that one was ECAB appeal...I'll be talking with her tomorrow so I'll ask why she would drop it rather than fight for it. Us nay be too because my CA1 happened then within a week my CA2,neck, happened. Maybe she figured nothing really worth fighting for....? I can't honestly say...
30763
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
11:02 PM ET (US)
Snowed
The girl I was working with that night wasn't there with me at least I don't think, she moved to the SPBS machine an hour or so before my injury. And there's no one else who pays attention to stuff when it happens. I have to see if my co-worker by chance was around but just not exactly by my side. I know I did tell her what happened, I'll have to check with her and see if she'll make a statement for me?
30762
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
10:40 PM ET (US)
Ah I went back and read your first post. You say factual component not met. Basically they have to take your word for it unless they have proof by means of a witness who states evidence to the contrary. Again a clear consise statement of what when and where. It is also good to add witness statements of your own. These can be anyone who heard what happened to you first hand...even your spouse. It should be a sworn statement, so at the end of your statement it might say: "I certify that my statement above is true to the best of my recollection. I certify, under penalty of law, that the disease or illness described above was the result of my employment with the United States Government, and that it was not caused by my willful misconduct, intent to injure myself or another person, nor by my intoxication.

I understand that any person who knowingly makes any false statement, misrepresentation, concealment of fact or any other act of fraud to obtain compensation as provided by the FECA or who knowingly accepts compensation to which that person is not entitled is subject to civil or administrative remedies as well as felony criminal prosecution and may, under appropriate criminal provisions, be punished by a fine or imprisonment or both."
30761
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
09:33 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Why are you dropping the first CA-1? Why was it denied?
Edited 07-15-2017 09:34 PM
30760
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
07:37 PM ET (US)
Snowed
check post #30654, the very fist post it gives you the "gist" of things as far as the CA1+2 go...
30759
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
07:33 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I know this is confusing! I am sorry for that..
I was denied for the first CA1, denied for my CA2.
30758
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
07:30 PM ET (US)
Sorry Snowed
I was also denied for the CA2. Both- because I didn't submit my Questionnaire answers. But I am dropping the first injury claim, cuz my shop steward recommend that, and I submitted my employee statement along with request for review via Ecomp 7/17/5/17 and checked this morning using the DNC# and they have rec'd my employee statement and the request for review....now I wait for my denial again...:-(
30757
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
07:25 PM ET (US)
Snowed
Yes I was denied my first CA1 for my back, injured my neck working light duty for that, filed a CA2. Then I reinjured my back in May and had an ER visit (and didn't know to file a new injury claim) so I filed a new CA1 for that last week....
30756
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
07:22 PM ET (US)
I'm sorry Dweaver you need to be clear with which injury you are talking about. It is not like I have your timeline and facts in front of me. In fact making a timeline post here would be very helpful. I believe you said you got COP for the first injury for the back?
Edited 07-15-2017 07:23 PM
30755
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
07:20 PM ET (US)
/m30745
"Snowed (30729) post
I was denied this claim, asked for a reconsideration and denied again. Is there anything left to do at this point with this claim. I never received compensation because like I said I was told not to fill out that paperwork until I was approved, which never happened. Now I have this new CA1 and I don't want to cause further confusion..."

You were denied for the first back claim too?
30754
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
07:19 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
If you withdraw your retirement funds you will screw yourself out of disability retirement. Use your TSP if you need to.
30753
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
05:43 PM ET (US)
kc bmc so there is no Retirement fund? I've been a FT employee since Dec of 2014. My last pay stub only had like $2,400. So until I get back to work thats all Ive made for retirement? And how does that amount affect the TSP? The reason why I ask is because if I have to hire a lawyer I need funds to do it because I have not had a paycheck (full) since my initial injury in Jan....
30752
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
05:40 PM ET (US)
KIMMIEK
It's good to know I did something correctly the first time around...thank you!
30751
KIMMIEKPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
05:32 PM ET (US)
That is a completely different injury- IT would be BETTER if you made it a new claim- THE burden of proof lays heavier on the consequential claim anyways.
kk
30750
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
05:26 PM ET (US)
Just a quick question..... I injured my neck while I was working Light Duty for my back, why wasn't that a consequential claim because the Neuro Doc said that he thinks the neck happened because of the back?...confusing for me he never connected the dots of that statement to me but I am curious?
30749
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
04:20 PM ET (US)
kc bmc
A disabilty lawyer told me that I could take early disability retirement if: I have been working for FT 18 months, if my Dr says that I cannot work to the jobs' "performance" for at least a year...and if they cannot accommodate a light duty job, I was told when I got hurt doing the light duty assignment that this is the only "light duty available?! Now how can I possibly work a job that aggravated the Arthritis in my neck so badly I had to file a CA2, and now another CA1 from doing this "light duty"???
30748
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
04:10 PM ET (US)
Thanks Snowed. I did get the DNC number for the docs that I submitted..
30747
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
03:43 PM ET (US)
DWeaver: As far as retirement is concerned, we don't really "accrue". The bottom right of paystub shows how much you have contributed. There are requirements to retire, age and years of service. One cannot retire until those criteria are met; 55 w/ 30 yrs, 60 w/ 20 yrs, or 62 and don't remember yrs but pretty low. An injury that doesn't allow you to do your job is not criteria for retirement. Have you tried light or limited duty work? At least you'll start getting paid again.
Once you get new evidence, an appeal can still be made within 1 year of denial. I too appealed my own case denial and asked for reconsideration w/ same result. I then hired an attorney since I wasn't getting anywhere. Yes, it ain't cheap but using some sort of expert should help your case. After 3 years, I finally am getting somewhere. I received partial approval but no COP allowed. I visited a "special" doctor in OKC and have just submitted another appeal. Should hear in about 90 days. Just asking for back pay and LWOP reimbursement (about $20k).
30746
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-15-2017
01:37 PM ET (US)
How long after your supervisor submitts a new CA1 will you be assigned a file # for it. My Drs office said that's because they don't have WC file number that they're gonna submit my bill to my regular insurance Co. I know, that's not what I want them to do but that's what they said. I told them I would let them know the assigned case # ASAP so I thought I'd ask about the time frame..
30745
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-14-2017
12:56 PM ET (US)
Snowed (30729) post
I was denied this claim, asked for a reconsideration and denied again. Is there anything left to do at this point with this claim. I never received compensation because like I said I was told not to fill out that paperwork until I was approved, which never happened. Now I have this new CA1 and I don't want to cause further confusion...
30744
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-14-2017
12:05 PM ET (US)
"Stupid autocorrect."

then turn it off....
30743
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-14-2017
11:36 AM ET (US)
....Put in for compensation. Stupid autocorrect. Hate it!
Thanks
30742
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-14-2017
11:35 AM ET (US)
Snowed
Well I submitted my request for reconsideration along with my employee statement/questionnaire answers and got both DCN #'s and I just checked on the site and they were rec'd. So we'll see it they take into consideration my statement? Not that I'll get anywhere, this has become a frigging joke now. Of course I'll be denied again for some reason...should I wait to see if I'm rejected again before I try to out in for compensation?
30741
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
09:24 PM ET (US)
dweaver-
You need to get a DCN number of the uploaded document. That is the only way you know if the document loaded to your file. If you don/t have that I would mail in a copy. Retirement is a calculation. They use your high three and calculate based on years of service. There is also a disablity retirement option. Go to OPM.gov for more info.
30740
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
06:51 PM ET (US)
one more thing, the paperwork that I just submitted? should I send a hard copy also?
30739
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
06:50 PM ET (US)
I just submitted my Employee statement and the answers to the questionnaire form they said they were missing, via Ecomp. I didn't see and DCN # to write down so I hope they went through......?
30738
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
06:36 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I thought there was somewhere to go that you can check to see what you have as far as "retirement" money goes?
30737
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
06:26 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
I assume you are talking about TSP funds. You should have a log in for Tsp.gov. I wouldn't touch your retirement funds listed on your check.
Edited 07-13-2017 06:27 PM
30736
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
04:46 PM ET (US)
/m30734 my post in /m30732 is correct

there is no more money that would be available to you.
30735
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
04:12 PM ET (US)
I don't know what's going on with with either my phone or this site but I'm getting old posts showing up where I just posted to...not getting taken to the posts that others are replying to of mine...sorry postalvet and snowed if I'm confusing you...
30734
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
04:10 PM ET (US)
Can anyone tell me how to find out how much I have accrued for Retirement?
30733
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
03:44 PM ET (US)
That's not my total amount though, just how much I've contributed so far....I mean the total I have invested?
30732
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
03:38 PM ET (US)
/m30730 bottom right of pay stub.

http://postalmag.com/paystub.htm
30731
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
03:03 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I have not submitted any "compensation claims" for wither the neck or the back. My union steward said I have to be approved first?
30730
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
03:01 PM ET (US)
Can anyone tell me where and how to check how much I have in my retirement fund with the USPS?
30729
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
02:52 PM ET (US)
dweaver-
You should still be getting paid for the time you couldn't work for the first back claim. I know this is all stressful and depressing. You will resolve it...keep at it.
30728
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
02:49 PM ET (US)
yes you need your claim number
30727
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
02:35 PM ET (US)
So, i just looked at the previous post we had about the Ecomp site. But I cant submit anything until I get a new claim number right? Because it asks for one?
30726
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
02:32 PM ET (US)
Snowed
Remember, I cannot submit USPS through Ecomp. And do I have to wait until I'm assigned a new claim # for my new CA-1?
30725
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
11:39 AM ET (US)
I need a Dr that'll connect the dots between what I did at work and how it's affecting my neck. I didn't think it would be this difficult since they are familiar with how a body works. I have a pre-existing condition, ok, but had no idea of it until I injured my back and eventually my neck. So even if it was pre-existing....what I do at work absolutely aggravated it to the point that's the pain is extreme and constant ..where is the difficulty in stating that to WC!!!!????
30724
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
11:25 AM ET (US)
He said he would take up the follow up care for my neck. I'm falling apart here and getting extremely depressed because of the stress if not working, no money and getting nowhere with WC... depression is getting the better of me...
30723
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
10:45 AM ET (US)
dweaver-
Some doctors do not understand the forensics of medicine or they don't want to.
30722
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
10:42 AM ET (US)
dweaver-
You can change doctors whenever you want if your claim is not accepted yet.
30721
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
09:55 AM ET (US)
Snowed
So my new CA1 gives my the right to see the neuro Dr that I am comfortable with even if he's the one treating my back? It would seem beneficial in that he's aware of my injury and test results and could make a correlation between my injury(s), work and "pre-existing" conditions. Though I had no idea or warning of the Spondylosis or protruding discs prior to my injury(s) at work????
30720
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
09:51 AM ET (US)
I am going to talk to the Neuro today and ask him if I can transfer my neck injury to him? Like I said the other Drs kinda left me no choice with not offering help with my pain. Plus the pain management Dr said in his visit notes that he did not believe that my injury was work related ...or that what I do could have caused it, though the neuro Dr said she believed that work could have aggravated my Spondylosis.....? WTH?
30719
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-13-2017
09:46 AM ET (US)
Postal vet. I saw the first Neuro Dr for my neck injury the one time, and her pain management Dr once. They don't work with WC so I'm not having much luck trying to get them to "support" my injury as work related. Nor did they want to do the neck injection for my pain. So I saw another Neuro Dr more recently for my back and also his pain management Dr who gave me the injection.This Neuro Dr was recommended to me by he's got numerous postal employees he works with through WC. I've seen all these Drs once , except pain management ones those I saw twice. Today, (2nd visit) I go back to the Neuro Dr who has worked with WC. Then back to his pain management Dr for a second epidural in August. Which that appt will be my third with her.
30718
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-12-2017
08:14 PM ET (US)
You can also change doctor by referral and new case new doctor.
30717
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-12-2017
04:53 PM ET (US)
/m30716 how many time have you seen the current one?

if over one you must write a letter to OWCP and have a VERY good reason to request a change of doctor.
30716
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-12-2017
04:23 PM ET (US)
How can I transfer from one dr to another!?
30715
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-12-2017
09:56 AM ET (US)
Snowed
I am going to see my Neuro Dr tomorrow and talk to him about what's going on. In the meantime I have to get my records from the Neuro Dr I saw for my neck because she didn't give proper documentation to my injury, so I am sending in a request for consideration and then when I get her records will send in hopefully something new by her...this is mind numbing! Thanks to you and Postalvet for all your tips and posts. I'd be out in the sea by myself if not for you two! Thanks again
30714
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-11-2017
10:31 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
No it does not make a big deal. You have 3 years to file the claim and I assume you did notify your employer right after the ER visit because you stopped working.

I may have said this already but you can state in the narrative that you originally thought the injury was just a continuation of your claim but learned recently that it is a new injury due to the fact that it was your job that aggravated it....thus the reason for the delay in filing the claim.
Edited 07-11-2017 10:33 PM
30713
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-11-2017
10:28 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Yes you did the right thing filing the new claim. Yes you do need to give them medical but a CA-17 and/or a CA-20 would be fine. You can also give them the ER notes.(a copy) After the initial medical to get your claim going, upload all the rest yourself via ecomp including your detailed narrative about the injury.
30712
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-10-2017
08:49 PM ET (US)
"He makes me feel like I broke a fingernail and can't work for the next three yrs!.."

all managers make hurt postal employees feel this way...
30711
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-10-2017
07:28 PM ET (US)
No COP, I knew that going in. I was told by my Union Steward that I couldn't file for it. My supervisor told me he couldn't file the CA1 because "they" needed the medical paperwork and what my work restrictions are? Now he knew I'm not even due back at work until after July 13 when I go back to the Neurosurgeon...? He makes me feel like I broke a fingernail and can't work for the next three yrs!
30710
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-10-2017
06:57 PM ET (US)
you have 30 days to file a ca-1 if you want cop

https://www.dol.gov/owcp/regs/compliance/ca-10.pdf
Edited 07-10-2017 06:57 PM
30709
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-10-2017
06:31 PM ET (US)
So I finally filed another CA1 for my back for when I went to the ER. My supervisor made a big deal about it being filed two months after it happened..does that make a big difference? I didn't know I could do that for the same issue that was my original injury.... This is so confusing!
30708
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
05:07 PM ET (US)
https://www.nalc.org/news/the-postal-recor...712_Layout-1-14.pdf
30707
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
05:05 PM ET (US)
https://www.nalc.org/workplace-issues/body...812_Layout-1-14.pdf
30706
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
05:04 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I'll probably ask for records review/reconsideration
30705
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
05:03 PM ET (US)
You can always upload another narrative with more detail if the first one was lacking.
30704
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
05:02 PM ET (US)
Dweaver,
Send it in with your appeal form. Not sure what choices you have remaining for appeals but do not choose ECAB unless its a last resort.
30703
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
05:00 PM ET (US)
Snowed, they gave me 30 days to reply with my statement. I did send it in but not within that time frame so they denied my claim..
30702
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
04:58 PM ET (US)
When your claim finally gets accepted you can file for wage loss for the missing periods of pay up to your new back claim then your new back claim will pay once that is accepted. May you be blessed with a quick claim process.

Also you were on partial duty for the back to begin with so that first claim should be paying you something. I would file CA-7/7a's for that period to get going on some lost income.
Edited 07-06-2017 05:00 PM
30701
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
04:56 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
Yes I would continue to appeal. I believe you said they were looking for facts of injury. That would be your statement I believe to verify how work activities aggravated and or caused your neck injury.
30700
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
03:20 PM ET (US)
Well it looks like I'm going to file another CA1 for my back (ER visit). Can I still pursue the claim CA2 for my neck as far as appealing their denial for that?
30699
Snowed
07-06-2017
01:18 PM ET (US)
Also double check forms and medical reports for accuracy. Mistakes can be used to discredit your treating physician.
30698
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
01:09 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
For your info and others who have more than one claim with possibly different work restrictions and also non work related injury or disease that limits your ability to work, as often as available/updated upload your restrictions for each different claim and non work related restrictions to the compensation file that is paying you wage loss. This will give your claims examiner all the info needed to assess your ability to return to work. Never assume your claims examiner knows of your other claims and has access....generally they don't.
Edited 07-06-2017 01:10 PM
30697
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-06-2017
07:17 AM ET (US)
Snowed
I finally did figure out I was hitting the wrong button.
 ..my brain is on Coffee Overload and Confused Central. I do appreciate everything you've shared and am greatly relieved that this is open for those of us that don't know the process and have questions!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
30696
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-05-2017
07:21 PM ET (US)
So all of you understand. The FECA manuals are sometimes misguiding. It is the actual law that takes precedence over these manuals. If you are following my conversation with Dweaver below, some of you may have seen in the FECA manuals or the CA-810 different guidelines for time limits on filing claims. The US Law is the most accurate clearly stating you have 3 years to file a claim not 30 days. When we see an error in the manuals it would benefit the injured as a whole to say something about it. I have written a couple emails this last month to the Secretary of Labor pointing our misleading/incorrect/partially confusing information. Please help the cause if you can and write an email to point out what you find.
30695
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-05-2017
04:39 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
I told you in a post below you are clicking the wrong radio button on the Ecomp site. You cannot upload claim forms. On the right side of their web page is a green radio button that says "Access Case & Upload Document". That is the button you use.

You only submit paperwork pertinent to your claim type. I have no idea what you submitted prior. If you submitted a narrative prior you may have to redo to specify what happened during only the last day you worked. Show the narrative to your doctor and let him/her know you are filing a new claim based on new information you learned. The doctor needs to agree that the days work aggravated your conditions.

Also in your narrative you can state that you just learned according to FECA law that you likely have a new injury claim due to new work exposure,not a continuing claim.
Edited 07-05-2017 05:09 PM
30694
Dweaver
07-05-2017
12:42 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I tried to register with Ecomp but the USPS doesn't use them to "forms file"
30693
Dweaver
07-05-2017
12:25 PM ET (US)
Snowed,
If another CA1 is filed will i have to submit all the original paperwork done in the first filing?
30692
Snowed
07-04-2017
11:41 PM ET (US)
 "Is there a timeline for filing a claim?
The Federal Employees' Compensation Act (FECA) provides that a claim for compensation must be filed within 3 years of the date of injury. For a traumatic injury, the statutory time limitation begins to run from the date of injury. For a latent condition, it begins to run when an injured employee with a compensable disability becomes aware, or reasonably should have been aware, of a possible relationship between the medical condition and the employment. Where the exposure to the identified factors of employment continues after this knowledge, the time for filing begins to run on the date of the employee's last exposure to those factors. If a claim is not filed within 3 years, compensation may still be paid if written notice of injury was given within 30 days or if the employer had actual knowledge of the injury within 30 days after it occurred. There is nothing to prohibit you from filing the claim. Timeliness is determined by the OWCP district office as part of the adjudication process. 5 U.S.C. 8122; 20 C.F.R. 10.100-10.101."
30691
Snowed
07-04-2017
09:57 PM ET (US)
You are correct OWCP does not accept pain as a diagnosis. You can still submit the ER report but you would need other medical to give you a correct diagnosis. Also the doctors narrative needs to explain why the work you were doing that day aggravated your previous injuries. Yes you can still file a CA-1.
Edited 07-04-2017 09:58 PM
30690
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-04-2017
03:37 PM ET (US)
Snowed
If I submit the ER report it only states that I came in with "pain" WC doesn't accept "pain" as a diagnosis.. the ER visit was in May can I still file a new CA1?
30689
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-03-2017
11:30 AM ET (US)
The best claim I see is the last day you worked limited duty because you said you went to the ER department. When you receive medical care within 24 hours of an injury the claims process is quicker and easier. I suggest yo file a new claim for that last day you worked. Submit the ER report along with your own doctors medical report if you have one notating the aggravation of your conditions/injuries. You can submit the CA-1 along with a CA-20 to the USPS but all other medical I would upload via Ecomp directly to your case file once you get a new injury claim form. Ecomp works amazing. You have to make sure you select the right radio button. Postal employees cannot submit
claim forms via Ecomp but we can submit medical documents and other correspondence. Make sure you copy the DCN number down to help you verify submission.

I also wouldn't worry at this point if it ends up being a joint claim. I suspect you need income asap.

Also you would need to upload a detailed narrative of what you were doing that last day of work that caused aggravation of injury. Keep it very detailed like the example I gave you in an earlier post.
Edited 07-03-2017 11:34 AM
30688
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-03-2017
11:00 AM ET (US)
Dweaver-

After going back to work and going out again the second time you may need to file a new claim. The limited duty job aggravated your injuries. You can focus on any day you worked the limited duty and look for a day the job duties clearly aggravated the condition. You can have a new claim for each day the duties made your condition worse. That means you can possibly have a new neck injury claim one day, a new back injury claim one day or a new injury claim for a combination of both neck and back. I would suggest if you can avoid combining the neck and back into one claim because usually these injuries long term involve impairment of the arms and legs in some way and for schedule award purposes it is good to keep them separate. It really depends on the facts of injury. You only need to focus on one claim as it is the wage loss that is important here. If your first back claim is approved then what you should focus on is getting one neck claim approved.

 As for the CA-2 for the neck, you can still pursue that to get your wage losses covered there or if the facts of injury suggest a possible CA-1 for the neck during your first limited duty assignment you can file a CA-1 for that as well.

I know this must sound confusing but you should take the time to let this sink in and make sure you understand it.
30687
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-03-2017
08:33 AM ET (US)
Snowed
CA1 is my back injury, CA2 is neck.
30686
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-03-2017
06:42 AM ET (US)
Snowed
I went to work the following Tuesday after my back injury, worked for 3-4 days and that's when my neck injury began. I was off work for about two months then tried going back for 2-3 weeks (LD for 2wks 4hrs/day/3 days/wk, the next week 8hrs/day 3days/wk) never working more than 24 hrs a week. But I couldn't continue into the 3rd week of working 8hr days, because my neck and back were in too much pain and I ended up finally leaving the final night, for the ER Dept and haven't been working at all, I believe since then.
30685
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
10:51 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
You said you tried going back limited duty and it was too much. What was too much and when did you go back? Each time you try to go back to work it can change what claim pays you when you go out again. Which injury was the limited duty too much for? You may need an attorney or advocate to look over all you timeline and papers .
30684
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
10:46 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
You need to separate your cases in your mind. OWCP looks at each case separately. If you were working with your back injury and you go out because of a new neck injury you generally your compensation would be paid out on the new claim once it is approved. If you want to be paid on the back injury now months later then that makes things complicated. You would have to prove why your disability increased for your back as you apparently were working when you got the new neck injury.
From what I surmise by your first post it seems you may have a CA-1 claim for your neck. You no longer are eligible for COP because its past the 30 day window to report it. You can also appeal the CA-2. The denial letter should be very clear as to why you are being denied. It might be that a new injury claim CA-1 is more appropriate. There is no way for me to tell without reading your narrative and your doctors medical reports.
30683
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
07:50 PM ET (US)
And no, I am out on back right now but both are my issues still..
30682
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
07:48 PM ET (US)
Sorry,..... I had more pain in the neck and that's where Drs focused..
30681
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
07:47 PM ET (US)
Snowed
I did try uploading my docs to DOL and couldn't do it...wouldn't work
30680
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
07:46 PM ET (US)
Snowed
My original CA1 was for back the CA2 was for neck. I had more pain in my back for a long period and that's where the Dr focused. About a month ago I took it upon myself to make them address my back so I went to see my PCP and then the neuro for my back and he's got me off of work now. But prior to that I was mostly out of work for the neck, I tried to go back on LD but it was too much...
30679
Snowed
07-02-2017
07:40 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
You need to take charge of your own claims. Upload your own medical to OWCP via EComp
30678
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
06:30 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
I'm confused a little. Did the doctor for your back injury put you out? I'm assuming right now you are out for your neck not back.

A CA-7 is given at the end of a COP period for a new injury. When you have an occupational injury you file the CA-7 immediately every two weeks but won't get paid until your claim is accepted. You might have a New injury claim to your neck depending how your doctor explains your injury. You should get copies of all your medical narratives to see what the doctor wrote. A CA-20 is not necessary but everything on the CA-20 should be in the report for visit.
30677
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
03:47 PM ET (US)
Snowed
This Dr (neurosurgeon) has a number of USPS workers as pts. I go back to see him on July 13th for my follow-up to the spinal injection. I will be able to ask him if he sent a CA-20 in to WC, I didn't give him one so I don't know how he would've sent one in unless he got one from the DOL website? And I never filled out a CA-7 and am curious how that got missed because I have/had been in constant contact with my union steward...? When should that have been filled out? Or did get filled out once the claim was approved?
30676
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
02:06 PM ET (US)
OWCP likes certain key words you can ask you doctor to use: Accelerated, aggravated, precipitated...
30675
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
02:04 PM ET (US)
Dweaver- DONT go back to that lawyer.

Yes there are two ways to show this. Your job may have accelerated the spondylosis to begin with due to the repetitive nature of the job duties which would be an occupational disease OR/AND, you job could cause aggravation and make worse a prexisting condition which can be either a CA-2 or a CA-1 depending on what happened and what the doctor says. If you can show that only ONE day caused some aggravation of the condition then you file a CA-1. The injury would be accepted as an aggravation of spondylosis.
30674
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
12:50 PM ET (US)
Snowed
Thank you for your response.
I was told by a lawyer...because I was diagnosed with Spondylosis (arthritis) of the neck and spine that basically I don't have a case, because this is considered pre-existing. Now my understanding is that if my Dr agrees that my injury sustained at work brought this on or exaserbated the symptoms, that it should be accepted as long as the Dr can show correlation between what I do in my position and how it accelerated the severe symptom's that came about..?
30673
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
12:07 PM ET (US)
Dweaver,
I am in and out of this forum but I will gladly help you for free as much as I can. I always advise everyone seeking help to take in info then try to verify it with the FECA manuals or another source. Sometimes info is incorrect or not the best way to approach things. Depending on your circumstances and needs too your path could vary from another persons. Also you can write to your congressman's office who is obligated to try to assist you with your compensation claims.
Edited 07-02-2017 12:07 PM
30672
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
12:01 PM ET (US)
Dweaver-
You are new to this board. I would not automatically hire an attorney unless all of this stuff you need to learn is too hard to understand. You have to educate yourself first. Google "CA-810" and "FECA manual part 2" and start to read. also google. "OWCP help" You will find lots of free help and also run into attorneys that do not charge an arm and a leg retainer. Also there are advocates who will help you for free as well as those who will help for a fee. Not all help is equally good. If you do hire an attorney, I would go to "ECAB decisions" and search if you are hiring a successful attorney. I can't advertise here for anyone but if you start googling the terms you need you will begin to find real help.

What you need to know is that even with a preexisting condition(not saying that is you at all) you can still have a valid claim if your work aggravates the condition at all. YOu can have a valid CA-2 and a valid CA-1 at the same time for the same injury. A CA-1 is much easier to prove, especially if you seek medical within 24 hours of injury or aggravation of injury. You can continue to appeal as long as you have NEW medical to prove your claim. You say you filed a CA-2 for the neck, tell me, did your neck flare up on the very last day you worked due to job activities? If so then you can file a new CA-1 for that aggravation of preexisting occupational disease even if the occupational disease was not accepted yet. You will be surprised once you understand this stuff how easy it is to get a new claim approved. The key is to write an clear, detailed narrative of the facts of your injury/aggravation of injury or disease and give it to your doctor and OWCP. The OWCP claims examiner has to gain a clear image of what, when, and where exactly happened to you. If you can give them that image you are most of the way there.

For example: While at work at the USPS on main street in Yong, NY, I was casing my mail at approximately 9:05 AM on the workroom floor. Casing mail means picking up a handful of mixed unsorted mail and looking side to side, up and down for the correct address slot and putting a mail piece in that slot for correct delivery sequence. As I picked up my 5th handful of mail I looked to the right for the delivery slot and felt a sharp pain in my neck. As I continued to case my mail the pain began to increase and spread down my neck into my left shoulder... You do this for the whole day you worked detailing any work activity that gives you more pain or worsens your condition in any way. If you are on the street delivering mail you state the address you are at when you feel the increased symptoms as well as what you are exactly doing at the time. (eg. stair climbing often increased pain)

You stated you were asked by OWCP to give answers to questions. I suspect a narrative like I exampled above was what they were looking for.
Edited 07-02-2017 12:15 PM
30671
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
09:49 AM ET (US)
postalvet
I have not.. I have been actively seeking one but an having not a lot of luck due to the fact of the up-front retainer...thanks though, I will give it a go!
30670
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-02-2017
09:44 AM ET (US)
/m30669 Did you try some that are listed on the right side of this link?
http://www.postalreporter.com/
30669
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-01-2017
11:35 PM ET (US)
noonelistens...
EVERY lawyer I've been in contact with said for Federal WC claims they need a retainer, ranging from $4,500 to $5,000 up front...very frustrating b/c I have no money! not working due to injury and WC denial....
30668
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
07-01-2017
11:43 AM ET (US)
postalvet, not upset at all! :-)
30667
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-01-2017
11:40 AM ET (US)
/m30660 don't get so upset
30666
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
07-01-2017
09:45 AM ET (US)
/m30660 then try this one for tsp

https://forum.federalsoup.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=70
Edited 07-01-2017 11:41 AM
30665
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
07-01-2017
03:54 AM ET (US)
Dweaver: How long have you been employed at USPS? What part of country and what is your job title? I, much like you filed OWCP which was denied. Did appeal myself and was denied again. I had back injury w/ lower disc problem. OWCP claims the condition is pre-existing even though the symptoms started while I was working (attempting to open a dock door). Getting no where so I contacted an attorney and she listened to me. I was required by her to retain her by using a retainer fee. This is based on hourly rate which has to be approved by OWCP. The doctor must state that injury caused by work conditions. Doctors don't know how to write medical/legal reports. Lawyer referred me to a doctor that just does disability and injury related cases by the government. Saw him yesterday and his first response after reviewing OWCP decisions of denial was that my case was a slam dunk. I feel hiring professionals who know the in and outs of the process is a whole lot better than most employees can do. I've been waiting 3 years and I'm getting ready to retire Aug 31 after 24 years. My body is wearing out and find it hard to work nights anymore.

Good luck to you.
30664
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
06-30-2017
09:00 PM ET (US)
Thank you very much rivkah and noonelistens! I will try my best but the way I learn is by being shown things or talking it through. I apologise for my denseness but it's the way I learn. It's very hard for me to read things and understand what they mean but I will try really, really hard to do this because it is my duty/responsibility to myself..thanks again to you both!
30663
RivkahPerson was signed in when posted
06-30-2017
08:22 PM ET (US)
Dweaver. You should do some reading at the owcp classroom and contact Ed Daniel. You can Google both.
30662
noone listens
06-30-2017
08:15 PM ET (US)
Dweaver..I have said this before in this forum. But noone seems to listen. It is up to you to learn OWCP rules and what type of proof they need. If you claim has been denied 3 times, it probably is because your Dr. did not show how your DDD was partially caused by your job duties or aggravated by job duties. So get a new report from your Dr. and summmit it. My opinion is getting an attorney is a huge waste of your money. He reads the same rules that you can read for free.An attorney cannot charge you upfront...it is against OWCP rules. Take a couple of hours each day and learn the rules. After you have summitted a new Dr's report showing relationship between job duties and your conditions..your claim should be accepted. If not, you can appeal to ECAB. BUT MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING OWCP REQUIRES IN YOUR NEW REPORT. It is too late for COP, but if your claim is accepted you will get back pay.
30661
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
06-30-2017
07:51 PM ET (US)
How many times can you appeal your claim. I was denied both of my claims and need to know how to appeal their decision, again?
30660
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
06-30-2017
07:42 PM ET (US)
Ah postalvet, have you been to that link you gave me for the TSP? Looks like it's a sling shot crap shootout all about Liberals this, Trump that.. that board is a wash... And at the bottom of this page are comments about TSP.. just wondering why you'd single me out? I'm not mad just wondering what I said or did that was not regarding this board...
30659
Dweaver
06-30-2017
01:44 PM ET (US)
postalvet

as I stated I am new to this so I apologize for asking questions re:TSP. I am an injured postal employee and was trying to get some help with things, again my apologies
Edited 06-30-2017 01:47 PM
30658
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
06-30-2017
11:26 AM ET (US)
/m30657 please find another forum to talk about TSP.

 this forum is about injured postal employees.

thank you

suggestion
https://www.quicktopic.com/32/H/7HwQTkFWBmz
30657
Dweaver
06-30-2017
10:42 AM ET (US)
I figured out what the TSP is...duh on my part. I don't know the first thing about finding out what I have, if anything, accrued up to this point or how I would go about withdrawing it...any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
30656
DweaverPerson was signed in when posted
06-30-2017
05:58 AM ET (US)
kc bmc

 what is "TSP"? Are you saying that I am not going to be paid for all the time I was off and calling the sick line requesting COP?
By hiring a lawyer what am I expecting reimbursement wise? Just my lost wages and medical bills that have accrued? nothing else? Thank you for the quick response!
Edited 06-30-2017 06:03 AM
30655
kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
06-30-2017
03:14 AM ET (US)
I had lower back injury. 3 years ago. After trying to do the claim myself (denial) I hired an attorney. I paid upfront using my TSP withdrawal (59 1/2 so no penalty but taxes had to be paid). The amount was $4500 which was worth it for me to not to worry. She claimed it was a slam dunk. Got partial approval but no COP. Visited a Dr. in OKC, OK who claims he is the best in the country as he specializes in injury settlements. He describes his practice as legal medicine. Best visit ever (charges $500 which is refunded to patient when he gets paid by OWCP). Dr. today said same thing; slam dunk. He told me today that it would be a miracle if I lost. But if I did he suggested I file a CA-2 as I injured other side of back few years before. I didn't miss any work so no claim was filed.

My opinion is to let professionals do their job and work for you. It will cost you upfront but they know the ropes.
30654
Dweaver
06-29-2017
07:37 PM ET (US)
Hello all. this is my very first time here and have some questions that I am hoping someone can help me with. I have two claims filed with the DOL for WC. I initially hurt my back in Jan of this year. It happened on a Fri evening after my Dr's ofc. was closed for the weekend. When I pulled a muscle in my back (2 hrs before my shift was over) because it didn't give me enough pain to report it to my supervisor so I left and between sitting in my car and the drive home my back began burning and the stabbing pain was extreme. I called off the following day (Sat) and my scheduled days off are Sun and Mon (I went to my PCP on Mon and was given Flexeril and Naproxen) so I reported it immediately when I got to work on Tues. That's when I filled out the CA1 and gave my Dr's note for Light duty, which they gave me the offer and I signed. I worked in "Dead Mail" for the next 3-4 days and by the end of this period my neck was literally in such pain I could barely move it due to the pain. So I went back to my PCP about that and he took me out of work completely for 3 wks and set me up for PT. I went back to see my PCP mid Feb and was off for 3 additional weeks. Because I and my union steward weren't sure if the neck injury was a CA2 or and Occupational injury I didn't fill out the CA2 until 2/21. I got a packet of info from the DOL and in that packet there was a questionnaire I had to fill out and didn't do that right away because I wasn't sure which injury they were referring to. My PCP referred me out to a Neurosurgeon (which ordered a Cervical MRI that showed "Spondylosis w/o myelopathy", some narrowing of my spinal canal, etc.) then had me see her Pain Management Dr who ordered a Tomogram (which showed "degenerative disc space narrowing and end plate osteophyte formation at C-4 through 7 w/ moderate associated degenerative end plate uptake"). He ended up doing some trigger point injections. Throughout this period the Dr's seemed most concerned with my neck. I finally called another Neurosurgeon for my back (which I had a Thoracic MRI done, this one stated there was "multi-level degenerative disc disease" "Small posterior disc protrusions") he sent me to his pain management Dr and I had a cervical epidural injection. In April I got my denial letter for my CA2 (neck) because "evidence not sufficient to establish injury", "fact of injury not met". In May came the denial letter for my back. The reason was "factual component not established". I sent in the appeals for a reconsideration and both were denied. At some point I did send in the Questionnaire answers that they wanted/requested. Like I said I have been in constant contact with my union steward who is specially trained in WC but I am still confused on at what point should I contact a lawyer? How many times can I appeal their denial decisions? They have not paid any bills and I have rec'd no monetary compensation for at least four of the five months I've been unable to work..... please help where did I go wrong and what are my options at this point. Attorney's are asking for money up front to take on a case regarding Federal WC claims.... I am in desperate need of aid. Thank you. I hope this was enough to answer my questions but not too much information...Debbie
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kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
06-27-2017
07:11 AM ET (US)
You are better off to use OWCP money after COP dries up. It's like getting free money. Don't know what percentage you are putting in TSP but matching is only 5%. Let's assume your base is $60k; your matching is only $115 per pp. You are really not losing that much; approx. $700 ($115 X 6 pp). Suggest you just take OWCP money and use s/l before your retirement date. Save a/l as you will get check for amount @ retirement. S/L is rolled into retirement and added into pension but spread out over 30 yrs. Probably won't live that long unless you are still in your 50's; therefore s/l will be lost. Don't know what condition you have but obtain FMLA certification and start using s/l instead of a/l. Just remember you will accumulate more s/l each pp and you will never use it all up.
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Caroline
06-26-2017
01:34 PM ET (US)
Ty kc bmc. So far I've been told the TSP, and everything, remains the same as my normal paycheck during COP. I am expected to be off past 45 days. So far, no one thinks it's wise to use my own SL....but my reasoning is this: in just over 1 year, I am retiring. I have 10 months SL available. I'm thinking I can use the SL, continue TSP & matching, and earn AL & SL. Does this make sense at all with these details? (Don't want to do anything foolish because I am unfamiliar with this process) ty! If I went this route, I would expect I would be using approx 2 or 3 weeks of my SL, which still leaves me with plenty in reserve.
Edited 06-26-2017 01:38 PM
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kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
06-25-2017
01:37 PM ET (US)
Caroline: You can always use your own leave and then have OWCP buy back after claim is approved. But your problem is COP which the USPS pays. May want to check and see if TSP is paid. Insurance benefits are paid. COP is 100% of your wages including premiums. OWCP only will pay about 80% but you will not be affected by that if you are off work for 45 days or under. OWCP also is not subject to taxes. Bottom line is, yes they will allow you to use your own money but not a good decision in my opinion.
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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
06-21-2017
07:11 PM ET (US)
Camryn211
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Paragraph 3, Evidence Needed, has been amended to include a reference that a report of a physician assistant or a certified nurse practitioner will be considered medical evidence if countersigned by a qualified physician."

https://www.dol.gov/owcp/dfec/regs/compliance/DFECfolio/bctfy13/
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CAMRYN211
06-21-2017
06:46 PM ET (US)
Will Work Comp consider a Physician Assistant as your treating Physician?
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Caroline
06-21-2017
11:13 AM ET (US)
Have been reading thru past Q&A's here and have learned a lot. Don't see my rookie question tho, so hope you can help. My accident was 6.10.17. I am going on COP and projected to be off work until 10.1.17. What I am concerned about is after that 45 days. I hate losing my TSP matching funds and not earning SL and AL. Am I foolish for considering using my SL until I return? Can I use a combination of SL and OWCP paid days each week to qualify to get the TSP deducted and matched and accrue my SL & ALleave? Ty
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concerned
06-10-2017
01:51 PM ET (US)
I am wondering, is it acceptable with owcp for a claimant to take in a foster child to care for?
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kc bmcPerson was signed in when posted
06-10-2017
08:32 AM ET (US)
30641 Under what statute are you going to sue? We have deadlines to submit new information (1 yr). My lawyer informs me that OWCP has no set deadline to determine claim is legit. And there is no time table as to when they shall pay out an award. Yes, sometimes one may have to go to civil court to obtain a collection, but good luck with that.
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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
06-10-2017
12:10 AM ET (US)
Clarkd
I see Neice answered you about clarifying to OWCP how work duties contributed to your injury. You must have your doctor state that he believes that your injury was caused by your work duties. Give your doctor a copy of your denial letter.
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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
06-10-2017
12:03 AM ET (US)
Clarkd-
You are hard to help because you don't explain your situation very well. Let me answer as best I can. If your compensation was denied and you have 30 days to respond you have to respond with the information OWCP needs to decide your claim. You do t say why you were denied so I can't help there. You should be paid COP if you filed a new injury claim(CA-1) and elected COP on the form. You don't say what kind of claim you filed. OWCP will pay lost wages for an accepted claim IF you claim wage loss with the appropriate form and submitt medical to prove your periods of disability.
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b2bjustme
05-31-2017
11:43 AM ET (US)
I have to say the receipt of approval/payment for a Schedule Award is definitely slow.......
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tbaroness.km
05-30-2017
05:20 PM ET (US)
I need a good lawyer that will actually do something and not run me in circles and suck me dry of more money. Any suggestions? I need to sue because they keep delaying decisions past appeal dates and blaming me or the dr.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab A (2016)-------- Original message --------From: "QT - Clark d." <qtopic-35-gdheSZgbF5c@quicktopic.com> Date: 5/30/2017 1:45 PM (GMT-08:00) To: QT topic subscribers <qtopic-subs@quicktopic.com> Subject: Injured Postal & Federal Workers
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Clark d.
05-30-2017
04:45 PM ET (US)
Hi,I had work related injury due to safety issue still owcp denied my case and gave me 30 days to response.I had no treatment only pain medicine .owcp want gave me authorition for even physical therapy untill case denied up to 60 days .I was in bed with pain and discomfort .What are my options?I am out of work untill i get reply after 30 days right?it will cover my absence right?now i am taking treatment with my insurance .Before insurance denied for treatment ,as it is work related injury.please help me .Thanks.
Edited 05-30-2017 04:49 PM
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Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
05-27-2017
07:33 AM ET (US)
concerned
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Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
05-27-2017
07:14 AM ET (US)
concerned.....I received a letter from Soc.Sec. 2 months ago. I had 30 days to reply. I turned 65 a year ago in June. I had to fill out a couple of forms, I will reach full retirement age in June (66yrs. old) the way I under stand this form my Soc. Sec. will no longer be off set, but my OWCP pmt will be after I turn 66. I filled out all the paper work sent all the forms back and also signed paperwork for Soc.Sec. to contact OWCP and my Lawyer. I guess because I have been paying a Lawyer they will refund or get us money back. Also my wife is supposed to receive part of my Soc.Sec. benefit and OWCP has been taking all of her money and I guess the Soc.Sec. will stop offsetting her money also, It's still a three ring circus, and I thought the Barnum & Bailey Circus closed their shoe down. LOL
I think the Trump Administration is going to open up a bigger can or worms than it has been before,
Edited 05-27-2017 07:17 AM
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-27-2017
06:06 AM ET (US)
concerned - The Trump Administration wants to trim the fat. He wants to make it easier for govt workers to be fired. In the private sector, employees don't stay on work comp for a very long time. The govt can't sustain itself at the rate it's going.
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concerned
05-27-2017
05:22 AM ET (US)
neice....what do you mean changes? thanks
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-26-2017
01:21 PM ET (US)
concerned - I don't know if owcp will force you to retire, but I do foresee changes on the horizon for all federal workers.

injuredneedhelp - You will have to use your own health insurance if owcp won't accept your claim. If you have an open claim, then ask your attending physician to refer you to the pain doctor and pay the bill yourself, but then send a form owcp-915 to owcp directly and attach your attending physician's referral and proof you paid for the visit. Owcp should reimburse you if you already have an approved owcp claim and your attending physician refers you to a pain doctor. Either way, you need the pain management - either pay it yourself thru your insurance or suffer with the pain.
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Injuredneedhelp
05-26-2017
10:54 AM ET (US)
How do you get a dr to help you with your injuries after being hurt on the job and wc won't approve treatment? It's been almost 3 years and I have only seen a neurosurgeon/pain management. I need a dr for all new and old complaints.
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concerned
05-26-2017
10:27 AM ET (US)
I am on periodic rolls, I will be turning 65 next month will my owcp benefits stop and can I be forced to retire?
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Kilacat
05-23-2017
06:03 PM ET (US)
I have an excepted claim and over the last few years the board has taken things away from me, for example my disability, then when my wheelchair starts leaking oil all over our carpet, I'm informed to take to take to a company and choose what they recommend for my needs, and since my vehicle is now 12 years old, to also have them also pick a vehicle. Today I received a letter stating that they would not accept the choices I made, because they were too expensive, granted they were what the experts recommended for my condition, now I have to drive back down to San Diego to try these other wheelchairs and vehicles, because my husband refuses to drive a Dodge, also the wheelchair was not available at the time we were there, I am in a fix!
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2017
04:52 PM ET (US)
clark d - If owcp says causal relationship not met, then you need to advise your doctor that his medical report needs to state very specific what duties you were doing which caused your injury and he needs to explain the mechanics of the injury with explicit medical rationale. If the doctor doesn't write a report with medical rationale, owcp denies your claim. You need to do an appeal, and enclose your doctor's new medical report with medical rationale.

Has the po corrected the safety issue at work? Did you write up the safety issue at work by completing the OSHA form? That form would be evidence you could also enclose in your appeal.
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Clark d.
05-20-2017
04:15 PM ET (US)
I had new injury and owcp denied my case due to casual relationship is not met so what is my options?My dr said i can't go to work until i had treatment like physical therapy and seen by two dr's neurologist and orthopedic .now case is disapproved so i had no wage loss money and i am suffring with aggrieved condition.please help me all my options.Thank you.My injury is due to safety issue at work .
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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
05-18-2017
04:41 PM ET (US)
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Clark d.
05-16-2017
12:19 PM ET (US)
Thank you snowed for answer but can you explain me what is LWEC means?how it effected means?Thanks.
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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
05-15-2017
08:52 PM ET (US)
Clarkd
Did you have a LWEC on the first injury if not then you should get paid based on your full time rate/hours.
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-11-2017
11:31 PM ET (US)
clarkd - While you were only working 4 hours per day before you got re-injured, owcp was supposed to pay you 4 hours per day. Were they paying you for the 4 hours you could not work? If not, then they owe you 4 hours of pay per day as long as you were only working 4 hours per day. If owcp was not paying you for the 4 hours your doctor wouldn't allow you to work due to work injury, then you should go to your congressman and tell them you need help and that owcp has not been paying you.

But, for your new injury, you should only be getting 4 hours of owcp pay for that. But, you should have been and should still be receiving the 4 hours of pay that you weren't able to work from your first injury.
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Clark d.
05-11-2017
10:51 PM ET (US)
Hi,I am out of work now.agency paid me only 4hours/day cop.If i go back to work 4 hours/day than how i will get paid?and if i can't go back to work than how i will get paid?agency doing different than i got answer.What i should do?help me.Thanks.
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Clark d.
05-11-2017
10:36 PM ET (US)
Thank you Neice.My agency paid me only 4hours/day cop as they told me that since 2013 i am working 4 hours.I am working only 4 hours when my new injury occurred.
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
05-11-2017
09:26 PM ET (US)
clarkd - I think I answered this question already. In case you didn't see my answer: The 4 hours that you're getting paid for by owcp for your previous injury will stay at the same pay rate. The new injury you received while only working 4 hours/day, you should get paid your current payrate for the 4 hours you are required to miss from work due to your injury.

You will still get paid for 8 hours/day by owcp, but the previous 4 hour payrate stays the same and the new injury for the 4 hours will most likely be a higher payrate. It just depends if you make more money per hour now than you did at your first injury.
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Clark d.
05-11-2017
06:42 PM ET (US)
Hi,I am working Four hours /day due to my privious injury limitation as of CA-17 since 2013.Now i have new injury due to violation of safety issue.Now my agency said i can get only four hours /day cop.My question is that i am full time employee when injured for my 1st job.Working 4 hours due to job related injury limitation .I have limitation and suffring from my injuries.I am not part time employee .Why i can't get 8 hours/day?Injured at job still why i have wage loss for four hours/day.
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RCSurferPerson was signed in when posted
05-11-2017
05:50 PM ET (US)
Cross Post:
Was wondering if anyone knew what this was: I signed into ACS to check some things and under bills in process they had my last 4 mileage claims (that they have paid already) in the bills in process area again with the reason being "ACS SPECIAL MASS ADJUSTMENT"

Anyone have a clue?
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Injuredknee
05-10-2017
03:23 PM ET (US)
Patrick A...that does not work for me...thank you.
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Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
05-10-2017
01:27 PM ET (US)
Injureknee
Have you very asked your doctor about Voltaren GeL? They have a Generic for it. That OWCP will pay for.
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Injuredknee
05-10-2017
08:17 AM ET (US)
I was prescribed a compound cream for pain approximately 2 years. Now owcp has denied the pain compound cream. Has anyone been able to get their compound approved. I cannot take opioids for extended periods of time.
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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
05-08-2017
10:02 PM ET (US)
PatrickA-
If you had that many years in the private sector you might still be better to stay on OWCP. You can always switch even retroactively if OPM gives you the higher $$. Many will switch to OPM and then collect their schedule award if they have one coming.
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Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
05-06-2017
12:24 PM ET (US)
Snowed
So we get screwed either way. At least my wife's benefit will go up. Then maybe I should check and see how much my OPM Retirement will be better than OWCP. I am supposed to receive full benefits from Soc. Sec. But I had worked and paid into SS for 35yrs in the private sector job force. Also I paid more into SS in the private sector, than I did prior to going to work for the Fed. Govt., So I will have to see what happens. So I wonder if the amount I paid into SS in the private sector work fore affect my SS also?
Thanks for the reply.
Edited 05-06-2017 12:29 PM
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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
05-06-2017
09:47 AM ET (US)
PatrickA-
When you reach full social security retirement age your SS offset will stop....but....OWCP will then offset its payment to you based on SS related to federal service. Your wife should be eligible for her full benefits which depends on her age.
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Patrick APerson was signed in when posted
05-06-2017
03:17 AM ET (US)
/m30605

Isn't that the truth. wait until you get the CA-1032 Form I think you get them in the month of your birthday every year. They have several questions that they ask you. You have to be very careful and you better read it(the DOL/FECA form CA-1032) and the instructions. Very Very Carefully!!
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Sonal Desai
05-05-2017
07:58 PM ET (US)
I tried many doctors but if they heard that injury happened on job.They said you have to approved visit in advance before making an appointment so i have no choice.
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PatrickA
05-04-2017
09:53 AM ET (US)
I got a form from Soc.Sec. last week. From the Soc. Sec. Western Regional Office. They want me to send them copies of my OWCP Benefit statements, they seem to think that I am getting paid not enough money every month, They also want to know if I am paying a Lawyer. Does this mean that on or after my birthday, I am going to start getting my Soc. Sec. or they are just going to stop offsetting it. The reason I ask is that every year I get a 1099 form to file with my Income Tax that I am receiving so much Soc.Sec. Also does this mean that my wife Soc. Sec. is going to go up. She is supposed to receive 98% of 55% of my Soc. Sec. I get my OWCP and I get a portion of my Soc. Sec. because I was required to file for my Soc. Sec. to secure that I do not loose my FERS retirement. I will be of full retirement age for Soc. Sec. Benefits in a couple of months, does this mean (from the letter) that Ram no longer going to receive OWCP and It's going to revert to Soc. Sec. Disability Retirement. I called the Soc. Sec. and the person I talked to after being on hold for 1hr. and 18 min. acted like I was bothering them. I tried to call my CE in San Francisco, and I still have not received a return phone call. Any Ideas? Thanks in advance.
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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
05-04-2017
09:47 AM ET (US)
clarkd-
Is this for your new injury? Are you still waiting for the claim to be accepted? You can go for treatment if you need it and by law if OWCP does not pay, your private insurance must pay. Later if OWCP accepts the injury then your private insurance can get reimbursed.
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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
05-04-2017
09:33 AM ET (US)
Clark d-
You can go to any doctor you are referred to. Until your claim is accepted you don't have a fixed doctor but all referrals do not need approval by OWCP.
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-22-2017
07:58 AM ET (US)
clarkd- I can only tell you from my own experience, when my attending physician referred me to a specialist doctor [not therapy], I went to my appt & did not need owcp approval to go to the specialist doctor. You just have to make sure you ask for a copy of the referral for your records. Even if you have to pay for your appt yourself, just send a copy of the referral & a copy of what you paid for the appt to OWCP along with an OWCP 915 form and Owcp will reimburse you.
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Clark d.
04-21-2017
10:34 PM ET (US)
Hi,Thanks.Owcp not approved my physical therapy yet..My physician referred me to neurologist and orthopedic both.Owcp not approved any of above three.now my case is on review status.Do i have to wait for treatment untill they make decision?It's been about one month.And i have to wait other more 30 days.I am only on pain medicine .What i should do? I can't go with insurance as this is work realeted injury.my physician said i can't go to work untill seen by above both doctors and with physical therapy,.
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jjmvPerson was signed in when posted
04-21-2017
12:54 PM ET (US)
I know that there are knowledgeable people that are ex examiners on this site "good people giving advise " I have question I don't know if anyone is willing to answer but does DOL train CE to trip the injured trip like in make it difficult for us the injured in the job ; just wondering
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-20-2017
08:43 PM ET (US)
jjmv - LOL - that was a typo, actually. But, yes - the CE's twist everything around in hopes of catching a dumb, gullible claimant off guard.
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jjmv
04-20-2017
05:29 PM ET (US)
Niece your telling the very truth when you say OWCP have the sharpest tools you are so right and Owcp has no shame in using them ; they twist our words manipulate our cases by confusing us or trying to confuse us wow I could swear Owcp is out to help usps setting us up for failure .....
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-19-2017
08:52 PM ET (US)
clark d - It's difficult understanding your writing. But, I think I understand what you're asking. First of all, hope you appealed owcp terminating your 4 hr/day compensation. This is where your problem lies. This needs to be rectified!!

Secondly, when you were injured the 2nd time you were only working 4 hrs/day. How many months have you been working 4 hrs/day? This is important.
Also, it's important if your previous 4 hrs/day [above - the one owcp stopped paying you] job was on a temporary basis per your doctor or was it on a permanent basis per your doctor. OWCP looks at how long you've been doing the 4 hrs/day and if it was on a temporary basis or permanent basis. If it was only a temporary basis per your doctor - you may have a good fight for demanding 8 hrs/day. Definitely, get your first problem rectified.


For example, if you were still getting paid for the 4 hours day and got hurt during the 4 hours of work, then the 2nd injury would only pertain to the 2nd injury. 4 hours/pay from old payrate for 1st injury and 4 hours/pay from new payrate for 2nd injury. OWCP still always has to pay you for 8 hours/day since when you first got hurt you were a full-time employee. So, if owcp isn't paying you for the 1st injury at 4 hours/day - you need to appeal it and get this fixed since your doctor probably still says you can't go back to work full-time yet. You have a problem on your hands. The people at owcp at the sharpest tools in the shed and you may consider hiring an advocate to get some legal precedence and owcp law for your appeal.
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Clark d.
04-19-2017
07:38 PM ET (US)
Thanks for answer.I have other question please.due to my privious injury i am working 4hours/day as of ca-17.owcp wan't pay me as i refused one suitable job was according them ,not me still i lost my 4 hours/day compansation .I am getting paid which i am working 4 hours day .
now i had other injury this month.other employee taking 3 full apc's,and some how separate 2nd and 3rd apc's from power ox while running ,with force and hit back of my chair while i am working .no rail or guard that is why i injured.
now they telling me that when i was injured i am working 4 hours/ day so i will get cop only 4 hours/day and not 8 hours/day.i am full time employee and working 4 hours as it is my limitations.they are not paying me for my other claim as i refused job.This is new injury is it fair with me?for this injury on ca-17 left side they put 8 hour/day so why i am not getting 8 hours/day?if they put guard near computer ,than apc was't hit me.This is big safety issue too.
Edited 04-19-2017 07:43 PM
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bg
04-18-2017
09:27 PM ET (US)
Hi anybody having problems with the acs portal system for bill paying been on owcp for 10 years.. went to pain management and they said my claim number no good so went on the site to see if bills are getting paid and wont let me in
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-18-2017
08:09 PM ET (US)
rcsurfer - Prompt pay has always been for second opinion doctors in my case. Maybe it's for a rehab specialist too. You can always call your CE to ask who it paid.
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-18-2017
08:08 PM ET (US)
clarkd - Ha! You would think! No, they're not doctors. They can send claimants on 2nd opinions if they don't like what our doctors say or do.
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Clark d.
04-18-2017
07:28 PM ET (US)
Hi,All owcp claims examiner are docters?
claim examiners can challenge to doctors diagnosis?
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RCSurferPerson was signed in when posted
04-18-2017
04:44 PM ET (US)
sorry for the repeat, hadn't gotten a response so I was trying again: I was checking ACS & I see that I have a prompt pay claim paid for $125 for something on 1/5/17 of this year, problem is I didn't have an OWCP appointment that day, what should I do? Previously Prompt Pays have been for 2nd Opinions/Referee Doc/Nurse visits. I haven't had any of those. I only receive OWCP for medical as I'm Disability Retired from the PO as of 5/2016. Should I contact ASC? My CE? or is it not unusual for a Prompt Pay to show up when the OWCP recipient hasn't had an appointment? Thank you.
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-18-2017
09:02 AM ET (US)
clarkd - You should call the claims examiner and ask when the physical therapy will be approved. The claims examiner has to approve it first. Your attending physician who ordered the therapy and the specialist did it right, but sometimes the claims examiners have to be certain. Just call claims examiner and be nice and ask what the hold up is.
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Injured on Duty
04-17-2017
06:59 PM ET (US)
Injured in 2004 and working a modified job with my restrictions. Was sent to IME (first time was 2006) reached MMI. New IME said I have reached "permanent and stable" can someone tell me what possibly I can expect? I have sent OWCP certified letter asking for copy of the medical report to see what restrictions the IME put me on if diffrent from my current one. OWCP stated in my letter they can no longer give me injections, that no improvements have been made Thank you for any advise
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Clark d.
04-15-2017
11:58 AM ET (US)
30591 clark d.Yes niece .
Also Acs approved my physical therapy but now my case worker holding approval is it right procedure?If case worker have any issue than how acs can approved?I confused .Can anyone explain me procedure after seen physician he ordered therapy and referred to other specialist what is right procedure?as far as i know if case worker approved than acs approved?Am i right ?Please explain me.Thanks.
Edited 04-15-2017 12:06 PM
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mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
04-14-2017
10:13 AM ET (US)
Ok- thanks
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neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-14-2017
09:57 AM ET (US)
maillady - Owcp will let you know if not specific enough. As long as he ties the therapy, nerve block, weakness & radiculopathy to your original work injury, it should be a go.
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mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
04-13-2017
10:24 PM ET (US)
Niece . Not sure if his narrative went into strict enough detail as to why he was taking me off. He did inform them that I was needing therapy, as well as a nerve block. He also noted I have an increase of weakness in my limbs, along with Radiculopathy.
30591
neicePerson was signed in when posted
04-13-2017
08:44 PM ET (US)
maillady - You will just have to get a copy of doctor's medical narrative and submit it with your ca-7 & ca-7a and let employer know by filling out a leave slip. It should all be covered under owcp lwop code 049.

clarkd- Is your physician that is referring you considered your Attending Physician with owcp?
30590
Mailladypostlady
04-13-2017
05:57 PM ET (US)
My pain mgmt dr referred me to an ortho specialist. Ortho has taken me off work! He is waiting on approval for therapy, and injections. I only work 2 hrs a day. Do I need to file another claim? Will I have to fight OWCP for 10hrs a week, or the whole 40? I don't know if I have the energy!!!
30589
Clark d.
04-11-2017
08:27 PM ET (US)
Hi,My physician referred me to neurologist and orthopedic both.Can i choose my neurologist and orthopedic for owcp injury?what is procedure for that ?Thank you.
30588
Sonal Desai
04-11-2017
08:23 PM ET (US)
Thank you.
30587
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
04-10-2017
07:46 PM ET (US)
/m30586 then you have appeal rights.

see if the union has anyone to help otherwise look on postalreporters front page for an attorney.
30586
Sonal Desai
04-10-2017
06:17 PM ET (US)
I did CA-1 same day.
30585
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
04-10-2017
02:59 PM ET (US)
/m30583 you have 30 days to file a ca-1 DID YOU???

https://www.dol.gov/owcp/regs/compliance/ca-1.pdf

https://www.dol.gov/owcp/dfec/regs/compliance/forms.htm
30584
PMG
04-10-2017
10:44 AM ET (US)
/30583 Did you report your injury to your immediate supervisor the day it happened? If you din't you're out of luck.
30583
Clark d.
04-06-2017
07:49 PM ET (US)
Hi,I am out of work due to work related injury.I choose my docter and i decline medical care on injury date.I went to my docter office 3rd day of injury as my injury happened on saturday .What i did wrong ?now owcp said my case is closed on 5 th day of injury.How with in 5 th day of injury case is closed .Who is responsible for that? How they can do ?please help me i want get this.Thank you.
30582
RCSurferPerson was signed in when posted
04-06-2017
02:57 PM ET (US)
I was checking ACS & I see that I have a prompt pay claim paid for $125 for something on 1/5/17 of this year, problem is I didn't have an OWCP appointment that day, what should I do? Previously Prompt Pays have been for 2nd Opinions/Referee Doc/Nurse visits. I haven't had any of those. I only receive OWCP for medical as I'm Disability Retired from the PO as of 5/2016. Should I contact ASC? My CE? or is it not unusual for a Prompt Pay to show up when the OWCP recipient hasn't had an appointment? Thank you.
30581
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
04-02-2017
11:23 PM ET (US)
no form for COP. Just let management know you wish COP and after your 45 days are up you file a CA-7 and 7a(if needed) each pay period.
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30579
Clark d.
04-02-2017
03:57 PM ET (US)
Hi, To start for continuation of pay(COP)employee have to fill out any form?If yes than which form?what is deadline for that form from injury date?
If only agency have to filled out than which form ?and what is deadline for that form ,from injury date?COP start from 1 st day of injury right?
30578
Sonal Desai
03-31-2017
09:36 PM ET (US)
Hi,1st 45 days get cop after filled out CA-1.When to start fill out CA-7 and CA-7a?Please let me know .Thank you .
30577
neicePerson was signed in when posted
03-31-2017
10:02 AM ET (US)
sonal desai - The left side of ca-17 is what your job is & what it entails. The right side is where your doctor writes what you can do. Only do what your doctor says you can do. If doctor says for you to work only 4 hours/day, then usps will be forced to do a ps 2499, which is an limited duty offer & you read it and if it says what your doctor says you can do, then sign it. Ask for union if it doesn't say what your doctor wrote.
30576
Sonal Desai
03-31-2017
09:55 AM ET (US)
sorry my privious it is 4 hours copantation misspelling.
30575
Sonal Desai
03-31-2017
09:51 AM ET (US)
If agency put 8 hours than i will get 4 hours/day companion right?because my docter put 4 hours on right side.Thank you.
30574
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
03-31-2017
12:31 AM ET (US)
You are a full time employee and the left side of form should have your full duty hours and days. Talk to your union steward.
Edited 03-31-2017 12:32 AM
30573
Sonal Desai
03-30-2017
11:36 PM ET (US)
Thank you Snowed.I am full time employee and due to job related injury working 4hours/day as of Ca-17. On ca-17 my agency one supervisor wrote at (side A at #6 )8 hours and 5days. After supervisor changed and he wrote at (side A at # 6) 4 hours and 5 days. So my question is that which one is right 8 hours and 5days ?or 4 hours and 5days?who is documented right?how it going to effect me.
30572
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30571
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
03-30-2017
07:50 PM ET (US)
You can change your mind and collect COP
30570
Bg
03-30-2017
06:11 PM ET (US)
Thanks neice for help the new doctor I have sent me to another dr for opinion he gave me xray n script on mri which I took today hope they pay owcp
30569
Sonal Desai
03-30-2017
04:42 PM ET (US)
Thank you .I choose sick and Al on 1st one but now due to my injury i am out of work more days so i changed my mind to cop so how i can change that?
30568
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
03-29-2017
11:59 PM ET (US)
Clark d-
You don't file a second CA-1...your COP should kick in from the first one....unless you went back to work and hurt yourself again. You file a CA-7/7a after your 45 days of COP runs out for time missed.
30567
Sonal Desai
03-29-2017
03:35 PM ET (US)
Thank you Niece.
30566
neicePerson was signed in when posted
03-29-2017
10:56 AM ET (US)
Bg- Your new doctor needs to submit paperwork for surgery, just like he submitted paperwork for the MRI.
30565
Bg
03-29-2017
01:18 AM ET (US)
every since I had 2 surgeries in 2007 which I have been seeing the doctor many times a year for shots, ankle braces and medicine the ankle is getting worse from early xrays getting another mri, Now I have a new dr so how does my dr submit a recommendation for surgery do I need to fill a ca2 which is harder to prove or does he write a letter to owcp for approval for surgery connecting it to the original incident.
30564
neicePerson was signed in when posted
03-28-2017
09:05 PM ET (US)
Clarkd - OWCP can take up to 2 months to approve a claim. You fill out a ca-7 and ca-7a for the time you are off work. If you take annual leave or sick leave so you can get paid, then usps used to allow us to buy back our sick or annual leave. I'm not sure if they allow that anymore.

I've never filled out a ca-1. I am not sure how long COP takes to kick in.
30563
neicePerson was signed in when posted
03-28-2017
09:01 PM ET (US)
Linda, You may try to ask your doctor to write up a medical narrative stating you cannot do the modified assignment, and reasons why.

Clarkd - Fill out another claim, but if it wasn't a traumatic injury then you need to fill out a ca-2 [occupational disease- injury progressively getting worse from work duties]. Ca-2 does not have COP though. If it's a real traumatic injury [bump on the head, lifting package hurt back, etc] then fill out a ca-1 again to be safe.
30562
Clark d.
03-28-2017
08:55 PM ET (US)
Hi,Sorry continue with 30561.Do i need to fill out any other forms?please let me know.Do you mind to explain procedure please?
After filled out ca-1,howlong owcp take to approved case.
when i have to filled ca-7 and ca-7a?etc.I don't aware of any changes in owcp procedure .Thank you so much in advance.
30561
Clark d.
03-28-2017
08:47 PM ET (US)
Hi,I had injury on 03-27-17 it was saturday .due to my privious injury i used to take neproxin as needed.I took one on injury day morning and after that injury happened.Agency asked me for medical treatment .I don't feel too much pain that time i think i took medicine before so i denied medical treatment that time.agency filled ca-1 without any treatment .and i want choose cop on that ca-1.
On monday i went to docter he put me out of work due to his findings.so my question to you is should i have to filled 2nd ca-1 for get cop due to injury ?that now i am out of work ?Also 2nd ca-1 can i fax to my agency or send original one.
30560
Linda
03-28-2017
06:51 PM ET (US)
3 days ago I signed a 2499 for an offer of modified assignment.. I could do the work but my doctor restricted traveling this far. Also not all the new assignment duties were listed on the 2499. Even though I signed it, I cannot accept it. I tried the assignment for 4 days and realized it would be impossible for me to do. The manager had my restrictions but offered me the assignment anyway. What happens now?
30559
Sonal Desai
03-28-2017
11:57 AM ET (US)
Thank you.
30558
neicePerson was signed in when posted
03-28-2017
10:02 AM ET (US)
Bg - The doctor has to word it that the reason for surgery is due to your work injury.
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