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alaska mailman
10:00 PM ET (US)
CCA- So be aware, there could be a regular who might have a request to transfer into your office. Since you have never had anyone transfer in they could accept one. Probably unlikely but it is a possibility
08:36 PM ET (US)
alaska mailman - No, not that I am aware of. Some of the carriers in the office moved here from other states, however they were not yet carriers. They chose to become carriers later after having worked in different non-postal jobs, much like the rest of us. Also, thank you for clarifying the answer to the question about 100 work years! I sometimes forget, "leave logic at the door"! lol
Edited 05-23-2017 08:44 PM
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
07:53 PM ET (US)
It doesn't include rurals.
I believe it includes clerks, but can't remember the Rate Schedule Codes.

Offices with 100 or More Bargaining Unit Employees in
Rate Schedule Codes C, M, P, Q

This is old (2006) but probably not much change.
Edited 05-23-2017 07:55 PM
alaska mailman
07:48 PM ET (US)
CCA- The proposed contract will do nothing for CCAs in offices under 100 man hours/years. It does not say "up to 100 or under 100. You are trying to interpret it. Read it as written. Management surely will. Under 100 man hours/years will fall under small offices. CCAs in these offices will still get the raise in pay but will gain nothing toward becoming career
07:43 PM ET (US)
Does the 100 yr count include rural and city or just city? Also in oklahoma all satellite offices that get mail delivered an pik up thru independent contaracters usps has cancelled effective july 16th 2017. Supposedly being took over by a larger company with each truck running 2 rtes a day. All starts times will be adjusted daily accordly for truck
Edited 05-23-2017 07:48 PM
alaska mailman
08:21 AM ET (US)
CCA- Have you ever had a regular carrier transfer into your office in the last few years? If not a regular can transfer in if they are on the transfer list. It is still based on the 1/6 ratio that converts CCAs
10:58 PM ET (US)
alaska mailman - also, these changes that I spoke of are taking place right now, and will certainly be completed before the most senior CCA becomes a PTF. I'm a little worried though if a new PTF transfers in from out of office.
10:55 PM ET (US)
Ryan-As I understand it, the 100 year office includes stations that are also less than. The best thing to do would be ask your local steward or president to clarify that (and show you, so you have a leg to stand on if push ever comes to shove).

alaska mailman- Carriers can move into our office from other stations? Please correct me if I've misunderstood you.
alaska mailman
09:24 PM ET (US)
CCA- Don't forget, new contract is going to make new PTF carriers. Any New PTF carriers will have 1st chance at any route and can move into your office ahead of you, also regular carriers will still be able to transfer but it will become harder
alaska mailman
09:20 PM ET (US)
Ryan-That would be correct unless. Their is wording in new contract that says they will discuss CCAs in small offices but you can bet that means nothing.
Ryan Cameron
11:07 PM ET (US)
CCA, so if the total does not reach 100 years then there is no change for the CCAs in our office?
10:07 PM ET (US)
comfortablynumb that looks correct, according to the Tentative Agreement. I'm in a similar boat. We have 9 city routes. Luckily for me, we recently had a route count that exposed an aux route as actually being a full time route. On top of that, we have a Carrier retiring in November. One other CCA ahead of me will advance into a T6 position (if that Carrier bids on a route) or straight to an open route after all Carriers have finished moving around. Once that everything has steadied, I'll either become a T6, or go straight to a route, with a lot of luck of course.
09:39 PM ET (US)
/m9586 I guess in the 2 city route office I work in our cca will still be a cca ....I have 25 yrs and other carrier has 15 yrs
09:33 PM ET (US)
Kate(9583), Ryan(9582), and Ryan Cameron(9584) The term was 100 WORK YEAR offices. This does NOT translate into a 100 man office, at all. A 100 work year office means that the total combined work years of all Letter Carriers in the office must total at least 100, but no more than 199.99. When the office changes to a 200 work year office, different standards may-and often-apply. The NALC website has all of the information you guys are seeking. The following is an excerpt of the discussion you and Ryan are having. As a caution, please read all contracts and local MOU's before jumping to conclusion or taking anyone's word. If I've learned one thing in my whole two years at the Post Office, very rarely can anyone literally SHOW me (in ink on paper) where they get their information from. I refuse to be a dumb sheep and go off of hearsay and rumors. It's a lot like saying follow me over the cliff, I've been told we'll live forever if we do this. No thanks. Here it is:

"Upon ratification, there would be a one-time conversion to career status for CCAs with relative standing date at least 30 months prior to the ratification date. The conversions would work as follows:

In 200-workyear offices, eligible CCAs will be converted to full-time regular career status in their installation.
In 125- and 100-workyear offices, eligible CCAs will be converted to part-time flexible career status in their installation, rather than waiting to convert to full-time career status as a CCA.
The parties have agreed to consider the possibility of another one-time conversion after one year.

Additionally, the parties have agreed to address situations where CCAs work in small offices with no clear path to a career opportunity.

There is no increase to the CCA employment caps in Article 7 of the Agreement or to the number of CCAs currently on the rolls. However, the Postal Service will maintain a percentage of the additional CCAs previously agreed to by the parties through a number of MOUs. These MOUs, which would continue in the tentative agreement, have provided additional career conversion opportunities for CCAs, about 47,000 to date. The vast majority of these CCAs did not have to serve probationary periods as career employees. The MOUs continue to include a weekly meeting to monitor appropriate staffing levels through career conversions and voluntary transfer requests. (NALC.ORG 2017)
09:18 PM ET (US)
sounds like your office is to small
Ryan Cameron
03:55 PM ET (US)
Kate, my office has 5 city routes. What hope do we have?
10:49 AM ET (US)
Yes if your in a 100 man office.A 100 man office is basically 100 full time employees
11:08 PM ET (US)
I'm currently a CCA in Missouri and was told that they are changing some stuff up and with 30 months of service you will become a PTF and it would be a career position. Is any of this true?
03:00 AM ET (US)
What does that salary history translate into today’s dollars?


$8,442.00 in 1969 had the same buying power as $57,413.21

1970 (after the strike)
$9,657.00 in 1970 had the same buying power as $61,843.74 in 2017
$11,073.00 in 1973 had the same buying power as $62,902.98 in 2017

$13,483.00 in 1975 had the same buying power as $62,721.15 in 2017

$16,501.00 in 1978 had the same buying power as $64,152.49 in 2017

$21,630.00 in 1981 had the same buying power as $60,511.87 in 2017

$24,173.00 in 1984 had the same buying power as $57,612.40 in 2017

$27,401.00 in 1987 had the same buying power as $59,868.58 in 2017


$31,766.00 in 1990 had the same buying power as $60,819.42 in 2017

$35,604.00 in 1994 had the same buying power as $58,957.10 in 2017

$37,831.00 in 1998 had the same buying power as $56,625.01 in 2017

$40,472.00 in 2000 had the same buying power as $58,058.44 in 2017

$43,099.00 in 2003 had the same buying power as $57,520.61 in 2017

$45,997.00 in 2005 had the same buying power as $58,356.00 in 2017

$47,996.00 in 2006 had the same buying power as $58,880.95 in 2017

$52,747.00 in 2010 had the same buying power as $58,971.39 in 2017

note: reflect pay rates at the end of each contract.


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