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ENG 111- "A Good Man is Hard to Find"

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Matt Thomas
07-08-2005
06:04 PM ET (US)
I left out of my other passage that I did enjoy the ending. I think the author took a different route in writing this story, but after reading it again it became a lot more interesting. I especially liked the ending of it, how the misfit explains that this lady would have been a good person if somebody had been there to shoot her every minute of her life. This misfit is saying that she was willing to give up everything to keep from being shot, and if she had acted like that the rest of her life, she would have been a better person.
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Matt Thomas
07-08-2005
10:30 AM ET (US)
I agree with what David wrote in his passage. This story was plain and simply dull. It had no sense of direction from the beginning, and stays that way throughout. The characters were the most interesting part of the story, not what they were doing.
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Matt Thomas
07-08-2005
10:19 AM ET (US)
First off, after reading the end of this story, the title of it makes no sense. The way its titled is implying that everyone is a murderer, as its hard to find someone who isnt. There were a few good details in the beginning, yet they seemed a little irrelevant, like the minor details about what the characters were wearing. I had no idea from the beginning of this story where it was headed, and when I got about halfway done the plot was still unclear. The setting was a little vague, though it states where they are at and where they are headed, I still didnt have much sense of a time frame. The thing I hated the most was the run on sentencing. "John Wesley took one the shape of a cow and June Star guessed a cow and John Wesley said, no, an automobile, and June Star said he didn't play fair, and they began to slap each other over the grandmother." That is like a 10 year old sentence. The only thing that may have been ok about this story would have been that abundant use of dialogue. Not that it was good dialogue, just that the amount used helped the reader feel more involved in the story. The fact that the author used southern dialect was also helpful in reading the story, as it gave the reader a better idea of what it was like in the south. Otherwise, this story was really long and drawn out, making the reader uninterested and BORED!! The author could have taken out half of what was written and it still would have had the same message. It just seemed like it took was too long to get to the climax, explaining every single little detail of the trip, like that the baby on the porch was not wearing any pants. The little kids were the best part of the story, as them acting up was the only thing that had any action until the last of the story
Edited 07-08-2005 10:26 AM
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David Leonard
07-07-2005
02:44 AM ET (US)
In response to Keri

I liked you take on the story. I thought you views were descriptive and thoughtful. I also especially liked the use of the southern dialect. I thought it helped bring the characters to life. The twist at the end I thought was good but it left you wondering why she did notice sooner that she was staring and talking to her son, or why Bailey hadn’t noticed either.
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David Leonard
07-07-2005
02:28 AM ET (US)
In response to “A Good Man is Hard to Find”

This story started off very slow, I found it uninteresting and dull. It sounded like it was going to be a story about a bunch of whining little people and there small life’s. The time frame of the story is a little vague; it seems to take place shortly after World War II from the descriptions of the Grandma’s and The Misfits youth. The setting is of course in the South apparently headed toward Florida. Once the author actually gets the characters out on the road the story starts to pick up a little. O’Connor’s description of his characters I thought was very well done. The reader was able to get a clear view of how the individuals in the story acted if not, at least in part what they looked like. I also had a hard time deciphering what exactly this story is suppose to be about, obviously finding a good man is hard to do, but so what. The family doesn’t come across one through the whole tale. Red Sammy seemed to be okay; at least he got along with the grandmother. The closest we come to even hearing about a good man was when Grandma was trying, in vein to convince The Misfit that he was one. He certainly didn’t paint himself to be a criminal, well not in the sense that we had gotten from the paper that Bailey was reading and the comments made by the grandmother. The way he tells it it was so minor an infraction that he can’t even recall what it was that he had done wrong. Now he could be insane but I don’t think just cause he went to see a doctor while he was locked up that gives enough support to say that he was. There is defiantly something wrong with him, I wouldn’t necessarily call it crazy, but really disturbed. Having a family killed like that and not even caring some wires have got to be crossed upstairs.
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rebecca rayome
07-06-2005
08:19 AM ET (US)
brian,
i think your response was very well writen. you went through the basics of who was telling the story, in what view, and the setting, than you went on to describing the main character, and her aspects. aslo you described the family who was indeed anb important part of the story . i like how you added you believe she got into the sick mans head before he shot her. your response was very good.
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Brian Barner
07-06-2005
08:17 AM ET (US)
In responce to Zaq. I agree with you with that the story had some kind of meaning to it. I thought there was a lot of boring parts in the story though. And I agree when you say that the Misfit had some mental issues as well. I think that the story could have been better than it was. I would have went more into the Misfits head and wrote more about that.
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Keri Possage
07-06-2005
08:17 AM ET (US)
I really agreed with Roshni's post. I agree with her thoughts on the Misfit and why he is commiting these acts now because of the things he's done in the past. He's the most complex character in the story.
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rebecca rayome
07-06-2005
08:15 AM ET (US)
i think that this story is really god. everything starts out in the deep south. the use of language is unqie because most writeres write with proper english no matter who they are talking about but she used actual language from the way deep southerns talk. the begining carries alot of detail in it to as where toherthings will come into play. the "misfit" the clear sky for traveling, the "in case they get into an accident they will know she was a lady". the grandmother is an odd character. it almost seems as if she is too scared to be left alone and afraid that she might miss out on the world. she keeps bringing everything with her, and tries persistantly to get her way. she wheres all sorts of different colors and as her excuse it i sbecause if there was an accident. she seems very attached to the way that she grew up. They start to talk about how things are getting bad aroud there. how " i remember the day you could go off and leave your screen door unlatched.
it's unique about the accident. because this is no ordinary family. first off the grandma is more worried about her son going off on her than weather everyone is alright. the kids are disappointed that one of their family memebers were not killed.. than the misfit comes along. it's strange to see that he is talking to them with such a calm voice. especially after the boy and father are shot. it's also strange not one other car has gone by. the lady reconzies him as her son but stilt the whole thing sounds like as if he was going to shoot her any ways even if he hadn't done ti because he was scared. i think this story had a lot of great detail and shoiwed a unique and sad story. it's sad when someone tries to helpsomeone who's in need , but they can't get it unless they are ready.
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Brian Barner
07-06-2005
08:14 AM ET (US)
This story is a story told in 3rd person view. This story seems to be pretty typical. It is about a family going on a trip through the country. It has ornery kids, a mother father and grandmother. The grandmother seems to be the biggest part of the story. She always seems to have something to say, but no one really seems to listen. The family seems to be on the normal side. You can tell that family is pretty normal as far as all of them getting along. I think that the grandmother is the most important element in the story. She seems to be very wise and very knowledgeable. The story has some really good writing I think. It gets very interesting as you read more into it. The story seems to be sometime in the past. The grandmother is usually the person wrote about in this story. Who ever wrote this story probably gave their grandmother a lot of respect. She always had a opinion in the story and always had the last word it seems like. The story has an unusual twist to it. I thought that it got very interesting and very exciting towards the end. A man is introduced after an accident. You can tell right away that this man is probably not a good one. He ends up killing this whole family in the end. But I think that the grandmother gets inside the sick mans head before he kills her off. I thought that the story might have something to do with racism but it was not the case. The men were obviously sick. But all in all I think that the story was ok. I think that there was some really good parts and some really boring parts. I think that the most interesting part of the story was the Misfit. He made the story jump into gear with his weird antics. There really isn’t an explanation why this man kills except for the fact that he seems to have some serious problems with his head.
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Keri Possage
07-06-2005
08:14 AM ET (US)
“A Good Man is Hard To Find” really surprised me. When I first started reading it, I thought it was going to be some pointless southern story but the gruesome end proved me wrong. I really liked how O’Connor addressed the characters. I liked how he described them through their dialogue and through their actions. For instance, you could tell that June Star and John Wesley were on the bratty side because of the way O’Connor had them mouthing off to everyone. The Grandma was obviously a proper southern lady because of how he described her clothes and her speech. She stood out from the beginning as the lead role. Foreshadowing in the beginning lead me to believe that the story was going to focus around her throughout the rest of the story. Another thing I really liked about the story was the language and southern “mood.” Even the Misfit used “yes ma’am” and “no ma’am” and he’s an escaped con.
The best part of the story to me was the ending. I really thought O’Connor brought out the most of his characters in the last scene when they were about to be killed. The Grandmother and the Misfit were the main focus. I really didn’t get a very good sense of who the Misfit was because when he’s talking with the Grandmother. At first, you think that he might be a good person after all. He explains how he was an innocent man and how he believes in Jesus, but then he kills the entire family for no reason. I think the complexity of the Misfit captures a major part of the story. When the family was talking to Red Sammy about the horrible world today, the Misfit’s conversation with the Grandmother leads back to it. He talks about how there is always someone after you and that it doesn’t seem right that some people are punished way too much and some are not punished at all. Overall, I really liked this story because it had a good twist at the end and showed the depth of it’s characters.
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Roshni Patel
07-06-2005
07:59 AM ET (US)
Response to David Hunt

I agree with you David. You said that the style and dialogue used in the essay was really good. It makes sense to the reader according to the Southern style. The reader can imagine the nature of every character from the dialogue used by the author. I am glad you also noticed the same style of language as I did.
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Zac Coleman
07-05-2005
11:28 PM ET (US)
In response to David Hunt's post

I agree with you on the feeling after reading this story it seems you don't quite know how to feel. I also agree that misfit did seem to have some kind of mental issues and was past the part of saving from his own demons. I didn't agree with the story being boring and pointless. I thought the story brought to life a reality of how the world is therefore I was able to relate to it better.
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Zac Coleman
07-05-2005
11:24 PM ET (US)
In response to Flannery O’Connor’s “A Good Man is Hard to Find”
 
I hit the submit button on accident before I was able to type about the Misfit character. I felt while reading the introduction to this story that there was somewhat of a forshadowing going on with the comments from grandma about the misfit. The ending was somewhat of a shock to me that the misfit ended up killing the family and being so cold about it. Like I said in the first post I enjoyed reading this story because its relistic and not something that predictable. I honestly thought that misfit would have not killed grandma, but I was wrong.
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Zac Coleman
07-05-2005
11:16 PM ET (US)
In response to Flannery O’Connor’s “A Good Man is Hard to Find”

O'Connor begins the story with characters from a recognizable family vacation an aggravated dad, a exhausted, cold mom, obnoxious children, an grandma no one pays attention too; she takes these characters and adds details to some of them, specifically the grandma. The story is told from a third-person point of view; the rest of the family isn’t talked about as much as the grandma. The author does send a message that is the family gets along with each other. As the story progresses, one begins to see that the past is often opposite with the present. The most important difference between the two time frames is the difference in the reasoning of friendship. The past is recalled with a sense of public eye and in family. The present is shown by its particular need for attention. The grandma is the primary character through which the two periods are changed. Firstly, she recollects the past, continually. Secondly, she serves as memory of the past. Her thoughts and actions are only as deep as its friendly conduct and she also represents it. The story is set among a family of strangers, and the grandma will serve a critic. She will critique the present by desiring for the past. The grandma sees herself as the voice of tradition and courtesy. The tone for the grandma is shown early when the author states, "Her collars and cuffs were white organdy trimmed with lace and at her neckline she had pinned a purple spray of cloth violets containing a sachet. In case of an accident, anyone seeing her dead on the highway would know at once that she was a lady." The family on the road trip they run into a series of different trials and tribulations, which they are able to overcome. I really liked reading this story because I grew up in Utah in the west and being in the south now its intriguing to see how different it really is down here. I enjoyed reading the dialogue of the essay and its fairly easy to relate now that I have spent a lot of time in the south. I like how grandma leads this family and how she calls a spade a spade and isn’t afraid to say what’s on her mind. The only thing I didn’t like is there were a few areas in the story that I really didn’t understand at first, but as I read over it again out-loud It was clear to me.
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David Hunt
07-05-2005
10:22 PM ET (US)
I am going to have to disagree with you on this one Roshni.I think that the grandmother was more pleeding for her life than believing in the man to have a good heart.I think that the reason for the appearance of the Misfit's personality is just because he seems so laid back because killing innocent people has become second nature to him.I do agree with that the grandmother doesn't really have a strong foundation for her belief in Christianity.
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