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Session 4

  Messages 9-8 deleted by author 07-21-2006 08:59 AM
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Richard Cook
01-02-2006
03:46 PM ET (US)
I spent 3 tours in nam. When I returned home I was sit on and could not get a job. I returned to Vietnam a civilian. Everytime I tried to return to the USA, for over 30 years, I could not get a meaningful job. I managed a DOD project in Saudi for $250 million but when i came back to the USA, I pumped gas. I was an expatriate for over 30 years and not even allowed to vote. Now I have been told by foreign companies in the USA that I am shit because I am American. The EEOC cones this and says it's fine to say that.
My country is gone. We have been sold out
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dave pfeifer(doc)
07-26-2004
10:13 PM ET (US)
Most of us were ordinary guys before the service and during.
Someone had to fight that war and it was us lowly spec/4's and pvt's, and sgt's.It was not glamorous like hollywood,and
most times someone did something heroic it was," they thought they were just doing their job", or," it seemed like the thing to do at the time".I served with many of them, and am proud to have survived,to tell it straight.
I have had many confrontations with phonies and wannabee's
over the years.Most can't tell you what a p-38 is.I am of the same mind as this article and support you 100%, bro.
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Bob
07-23-2004
03:41 PM ET (US)
What a great opportunity RADIX has in having Burkett be part of its Boston conference. Burkett's book, "Stolen Valor" should be on every middle school's reading list, let alone every voter in America.

I'm really disappointed I won't be able to attend the conference. Hope this website shares with us detailed coverage of the conference (including photos).
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GI Joe
07-05-2004
11:13 PM ET (US)
Post-traumatic stress accompanies every war. Always has, always will. There is one very distinct difference applicable to Vietnam: the nature of American society welcoming returning veterans. It was not only the naive and sometimes malignant "protesters," but also the perception of a wimp society that held nothing dear nor had the character to defend anything it did. After seeing the rural people of Vietnam deal with such tremendous hardships, many due to poverty, disease and illness quite apart from the war, it was infuriated to return "home" to find people whining, complaining, acting like eternal adolescents, and having no idea just how fortunate they were to live in America. Then there was the media barrage of VN veteran portrayals in just about every televison program of the era. All had the stock "deranged Vietnam veteran" character. Essentially, those who served to the best of their ability (drugheads and losers excluded) returned home to find themselves pitied by the very same people they held in utter contempt. It was a very insidious combination of emotions. Many who served in Korea or WW II also experienced things that haunt them to this day, but they were, in general, able to surmount these problems because they perceived themselves to be living in a sane society. This vital ingredient was not available to Vietnam veterans and greatly exacerbated valid and real horrid experiences. Coming back to America was like coming back to a clown convention at which everyone was stoned on mescaline and actually enjoyed the idiocy that prevailed in the late 1960s and into the 1970s. Little has changed since then. America had only began to become a silly, childish nation infatuated with frivolity blended with as much obscenity as can be gotten away with. If the rest of America could simply feel the contempt that many Vietnam veterans have for their "fellow Americans," it would be an extremely unpleasant experience, though perhaps postively enlightening.
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Donald E. Zlotnik
07-05-2004
07:33 AM ET (US)
I own Burkett's excellent book, "Stolen Valor." He has done an excellent job exposing phonies--but!--what has the government done to close the door on especially those who have NEVER served in the military and are claiming VA benifits?

There will always be phonies and those who pretend to be what they are not--I don't have as much a problem with them as I do the mental health professionals (traditionally liberal) who support and allow the phonies to milk the system.

As for Burkett--Well Done!
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Hazel
07-04-2004
06:16 PM ET (US)
My husband served as a Crew Chief on a UH1D helicopter in Viet Nam during 1966-67.he never talked about his experience there beyond enough to let a fellow Viet Nam vet know he was there to. Those who knew him before he went there, said he was a different person then when he left. His parents listened to him yell,and, fight the war as he tried to sleep when he returned home. Not to mention that every nerve was on edge during his waking hours.Drinking became his comfort. He is now 60 yrs old,he has had a liver transplant due to cirrhosis of the liver,and a heart valve replacement, he has skin cancer, and he is now seeking help thru the VA in Pensacola , Fl. My husband trys to be a good man,but he has a side to him that can be scary, and a side that is very cold. I love him so I stay. He has nothing but contempt for John Kerry,and his precious service in Viet Nam. I have to agree. How could John Kerry do this to the men and women who served so bravely in Viet Nam,when he was just there 4 mos. and 12 days. My husband is Joel Johnson,and I am proud of him and the fact he did not run off to Canada,or shoot himself in a hand or foot,so as not to be able to serve. He did what he had to do, camehome,as many of his comrades died, or came home injured without honor,or pride because of people like John Kerry.I pray he will not become our next President.
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Stephen ShermanPerson was signed in when posted
04-21-2004
09:38 AM ET (US)
I welcome your comments to this session where we will discuss the myths about the Vietnam Veteran. To return to the Session Page go to http://www.viet-myths.net/Session04.htm

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