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mythago
02-12-2004
01:32 AM ET (US)
As long as we're bandying terminology, I believe "religious right" is a bit of a misnomer; that group is almost entirely fundamentalist Protestant. There are plenty of religious groups that do not agree with their agenda, and it seems a shame to let them use the term 'religious' (as though they're the only ones who are).
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Aaron LarsonPerson was signed in when posted
02-11-2004
10:35 PM ET (US)
Laban, often I put the term "conservative" in quotation marks when referring to this type of pundit because I recognize that distinction. (By U.S. definitions, I would also distinguish "fiscal conservatives" from libertarians.) I have a problem with lumping social conservatives and the religious right in with "fiscal conservatives", but (like the Bush Administration) the mainstream U.S. media typically does not.

As for what I post at "Harry's Place", the easiest place to speak to it is... Harry's Place. Given that the link at issue was to the campus Rainbow Coalition site, I would agree that yes, they do have an agenda. As you should know, it is possible to both have an agenda and be right.
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mythago
02-11-2004
10:13 PM ET (US)
It is a common stereotype and is applied to gays--they're hypersexed, predatory, and a threat to our young people. (More accurately, though, in the Middle Ages, Jews were also portrayed as hypersexual and lusting after good Christian girls.)

And I think the objection to extremist Muslims is only one of semantics. "Walk behind" is so much sloppier than "gracefully submit." ;)
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Laban Tall
02-11-2004
05:15 PM ET (US)
I think you're quite right, but you have to discriminate between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives or libertarians.

Most libertarians think the free market is the answer to all questions - many are socially liberal. But the Pat Buchanans (and Laban Talls) are capable (or think they are) of seeing the world through the eyes of a religious Muslim (or Jew or Sikh or Hindu or Buddhist - the major religions are remarkably similar in their 'social policy'). And they're not surprised that (say) a first-generation immigrant from Pakistan, Nigeria or Bangladesh would be horrified at modern Western culture.

PS - that gay link you posted at Harry's - the good academics at Davis haven't got an agenda, have they ?

"Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority society's most vulnerable members. Historically, Black men in the United States were often falsely accused of raping White women, and commonly lynched as a result. Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices.
In a similar fashion, gay people ...."

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