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04:10 AM ET (US)
The unknown camera is Prestoneta from Birnbaum.
Pete C
08:31 AM ET (US)
Maybe those materials weren't available where you were but certainly in the 1960's in the US & Western Europe, and no doubt many other places, you could get Kodacolor & Ektachrome. In W Europe you also had Agfacolor & Agfachrome in 127 & other makes as well. The problem of supply of colour materials in 127 only really surfaced in the 1990's and even then (& now) you could often get some kind of colour film albeit with difficulty and at a high price. Hopefully the re-emerged Ferrania, once they have got over their teethjing problems, will make colour materials in 127. They have already said they have the equipment to manufacture 127 film. Fingers firmly crossed!
Anees Iqbal
08:28 AM ET (US)
I loved the 127 format but my frustration with this was the inability to find any colour material ( negative or reversal ) in this format
I loved the Baby Rollei but had to move upt to 6x6 Rolleiflex in 1963 for this very restriction. The penalty was the larger heavier Rolleiflex 3.5 F.
Charles Enos
09:45 PM ET (US)
The closing date for ordering 46mm HP5+ appears to be Friday the 26th of May, and it is tempting, as the per roll cost isn't ruinous.
As to Ferrania, they'll doubtless need time to cope, but hopefully, with sustained pressure/sincere interest, they can be persuaded that 127 is the most suitable 'fifth format', surely more so than 126. The level of 'quiet desperation' demonstrated by some 127 camera owners (I've even witnessed one poor fellow tape perforated 35mm right out of a cassette onto a 127 backing paper), if properly directed could conceivably win out, in time.
Best of luck to us all!
Pete C
02:59 AM ET (US)
Re /m1232 What you say is true but at the moment the Ferrania P30 is still at the Alpha stage as it is not fully sorted. It has only been produced so far in 35mm and I got the impression that it would be some time before it comes out in 120, let alone 127. One of the problems they have hit is sourcing a suitable backing paper for rollfilm, though no doubt this is resolvable. I think the references to 126 is that the old Ferrania were the last manufacturer of this size, whereas they hadn't made 127 for decades. Meanwhile, as you say, each year Harman (Ilford) have a limited large format offer. So far this has always included an offer of a bulk load of HP5+ (400 ISO) in width suitable for rolling your own lengths of 127, and the film base is the correct thickness for rollfilm too. They also offer bulk loads of backing paper in 120 width but I guess you could cut it down to 127 size. None of this is for the faint-hearted! I don't know if the closing date for Harman's 2017 run has been reached. The bulk roll is not cheap but it will produce a lot of film so per film it is not too bad (in my view).
Edited 05-03-2017 03:01 AM
Charles Enos
05:10 PM ET (US)
Hello all, As a 'new' devotee of the 127 format, I have been a trifle dismayed by the paucity of options for buying fresh film. Many searches revealed the obvious: Rera-Pan, Bluefire Murano, 50 foot lengths of Ilford HP5+(for those enamored of time-consuming feats of darkroom prestidigitation), and the dwindling stock of Efke; however there is another possibility on the horizon, if enough people can be found that will make a little effort to make their voices heard on the subject. It seems that FILM Ferrania is once again making a lovely old cinema film, P30, and if one looks at their FAQ page they claim that they could make 127 and will do if they feel there is adequate interest, they even mention it by number, "If you are, for example, a huge fan of 127, then you need to go out there and find your fellow fans and get them mobilized. When the time is right for us, we will put out the call..." A quick search of that page with all messages loaded reveals just seven instances of the string "127", two of which are from their blurb. This is, in my view, unacceptable; especially when another similar search reveals an utterly preposterous 28 occurrences of "126"!
The choice is ours, do we permit this potential renaissance slip through our fingers, possibly dooming 127 to ultimate oblivion, or do we make our voices heard and decry the unjust obscurity that has already blighted such a charming format?
David Mukai
06:25 AM ET (US)
Hi, Brian (Price) and Mike (Pinter),
Just wanted to say that because of your discussions I checked out some of Brian's photos, and they are really great! I'm not sure why I originally got on to this site, but I did at one time have a Kodak Brownie Starmite II camera with which I took a lot of pictures in my very early youth. I'm interested in doing some B&W film work, but probably with my 35mm Nikon FA, although I would like to experiment with a larger format film, too. So much to try, so little time! It's getting harder and harder to find decent film in the U.S. also. Thanks to you guys for keeping 127 photography alive!
Brian Price
04:13 AM ET (US)
Thanks for he mention. Like Bill I haven't done any 127 stuff recently, but I've still got a few rolls of out of date Efke in the fridge and I keep meaning to buy some Rera Pan for my better cameras, perhaps I'll do it now.
Bill Lynch
11:52 AM ET (US)
Hi Mike. It's great to see that interest in 127 film cameras continues. I haven't used any of mine for a while. Maybe it's time to get them out again.
Mike PinterPerson was signed in when posted
11:14 AM ET (US)
I want to add a quick thank you to Brian Price for adding the comments for each camera to the photos he shared in the galleries. They give me a great starting point for taking pictures with my own Vest Pocket, manuals being rather scarce for 90 year old cameras, and all that. :)
Mike PinterPerson was signed in when posted
10:55 AM ET (US)
Gawd, re-reading my previous post it sounds like I work for that site, but I don't. Never mind, just the fact that in the time since I was given that Authographic, 1999, and now, I can actually order film for it again, all the way from Japan, at the push of a button or two. Bizarre. I've just realised that it could be between 91 and 82 years old!
Mike PinterPerson was signed in when posted
10:45 AM ET (US)
Hello everybody! This is my first post in this forum. I came across this site in a very roundabout way and I count it as an amazing find.

I am particularly excited because through the latest comment I found that I can buy 127 film here in Spain too. Foto-R3, the site my film photography teacher has mentioned a few times stocks B&W Rera Pan 100-127 produced in Japan by Kawauso-Shoten and PAN 400-127 (Ilford HP5) by a german lab.

For years I've been slowly collecting old cameras with the hope of one day bringing them back to life, the jewels of which are a Kodak Vest Pocket Autographic Model B and a bakelite Brownie with its flash.

Although I see that you're wary of links being shared here, and would be even more wary of one in a first post, do write down www.foto-r3/en/pelicula/byn/127-byn and check it out.

In the few physical photo shops left around here I'm spreading the word that film is making a comeback so they'll dare to stock up for us. In fact, today I bought two rolls of 120 film I'll be using in a Yashica 635 that has been lent to me. For 5 each, fresh from the fridge he keeps them in, a Portra 400 and a Fuji Provia 100 Frdp III slide film.

I hope to have worthy results soon!
David Daniels
04:45 AM ET (US)
Hello Brian,
    Thanks for that especially the links.
                                  Dave D.
Brian Price
05:49 AM ET (US)
Hi David

The Luxette 44 was exactly as you described, made in around 1953 by a firm called Zimmerman in Germany . They only made one design but sold it under several names with small differences. The were sold under Cima 44, Kobold 44 and Pronta as well as Luxette. I don't think it would have been as much as 30/-. that would be 30 in today's money, probably more like 3/-! They turn up regularly on Ebay, you should get one for around 5




David Daniels
06:36 PM ET (US)
Around about 1962, I purchased a viewfinder, 127 film camera camera from Woolworths for about 30 shillings (I think). The reason I bought it was I was short of cash and it offered three shutter speeds, rather than the single one offered by its Kodak and Ilford contemporaries. The three shutter speeds were described on the lens ring by a dark cloud, a light cloud, and a sun type symbols. As I recall it had a brushed aluminium type case, with black, leatherette type trim. Given decent Kodak film it took very good photos, within its price limitations. The name "Luxette" seems to ring a bell, but this could be a "red herring", as the one shown on your website looks different, although it seems to be an earlier example.
I still have all my older cameras, from a Cosmic 35 to a Zenith TTL, but that Woolworths camera is missing from my collection, so for nostalgia's sake, I would like to acquire another, the missing link if you like. Maybe someone out there could help.
02:47 PM ET (US)
In reference to 127 rangefinder cameras-my Gelto has a coupled rangeinder. From what I understand this was an aftermarket device - but it works very well.
Kurt Ingham
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