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Quote of the day: "Now my nephew is dead."

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ericthecurdog
07-23-2003
04:31 PM ET (US)
Off topic...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...r_wh/clinton_iraq_3

Just thought I'd throw a little gasoline in here. I've stayed out of most of the conversation because I alternate between agreeing with some of it (on both sides) and thinking the rest displays an ignorance of military operations and history and is just simple partisan carping (at best).
Edited 07-23-2003 04:41 PM
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Roland
07-23-2003
10:39 AM ET (US)
Exactly how was Saddam's regime threatening your American freedoms? Sure he was terrible for the country, a tyrant who murdered to keep himself and his party in power but didn't represent a serious threat to America, to the best of my knowledge no weapons of mass destruction or chemical/biological weapons have been confirmed. We all know that there are no links with Al Qaeda as the men were at odds so how this demanded immediate military action escapes me. Maybe we will all find out the real reasons for the sudden invasion/liberation at a later date as right now i cannot see the justification.
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Scott Patchin
07-23-2003
12:04 AM ET (US)
The President is guilty of erring on the side of caution.
STOP THE PRESSES!!!

As for the loss of a nephew...It is a damn pity that a young innocent had to die for his uncle and aunt's freedom. This relative apparently puts more value on the life of a single American than both the hundreds of thousands already slaughtered and doubtless untold numbers spared from a similar fate. To say he did so in vain is an insult to the courageous departed and unfortunately typical of that famous American arrogance. Dying for another man's freedom is as noble as it gets. He was a hero and hopefully when the grief and anger subside this relative will come to appreciate the value of the price he paid.
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Michael
07-21-2003
07:56 PM ET (US)
Sure, we're fighting against Islamic fundamentalism. But are we at all effective.

So let's see. We alienated our allies so that only one is supplying a significant number of troops. At the same time, we're using so many of our own troops and reserves that we would have difficulty gathering enough if we needed them to fight against another enemy--such as North Korea, which does have nukes. Oh, and Al Qaeda membership is apparently rising.

So how is this effective again?
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medwardcole
07-19-2003
06:37 AM ET (US)
Ironically Scott, the democratic process that we in the "free world" are attempting to set up in Iraq, will almost certainly turn the country into a fundamentalist Muslim state.

And by the way, it's ill-informed gung-ho attitudes like yours that are alienating the rest of the world, not just in countries that the US think it would be fun to invade, but right here in jolly old England.
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Old Fart
07-18-2003
10:39 PM ET (US)
I believe the point was that no American president or military leader has stumbled so catastrophically at the microphone as has George W. Bush. This stumble has already cost the lives of American troups, and who knows how many more to come. I believe the troops call an officer of this sort "showboat" - an officer who would risk the lives of his men to appear heroic before his superiors (masters?).

In this case, I believe Bush's behavior was not the product of ambition - he's just a moron. Not much consolation for the grieving families...
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SazeracPerson was signed in when posted
07-18-2003
01:51 PM ET (US)
Iraq is not an Islamic state, it was controlled by the socialist Baath party who were not an imminent threat to this country. Osama bin Laden, the person with whom we are presumably at war, despised Saddam and call him and his regime "heretics and infidels." Remember?
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Scott Patchin
07-18-2003
11:56 AM ET (US)
All the carpers and the naysayers just don't get it. We are at war with Islamic-facism...period. Anyone tuned in to Blair in front of Congress yesterday had to believe that our two countries are fighting for the right to be free. The cost of freedom is buried in the ground. God bless that young soldier of freedom.