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Been there / done that
11:35 AM ET (US)
I have no advice on getting you paid now Terry. You might still want to consider writing the actual additional miles for parcels on your trip sheet though. You never now what might come of this issue down the road and if they possibly pay it retroactively to those who took the time to document it you might get something out of it. Don't hold you breath though!
11:32 AM ET (US)
Just voicing my concerns that we need to update the 2nd trip rules or USPS needs to provide box trucks to deliver the huge or the longer than your vehicle parcels. We have no LLV's or trucks at our office. Our office has a loading dock and I understand unless your office has a loading dock you don't receive Amazon or Fedex parcels. This situation needs to be addressed. Management and Carriers want parcels delivered but isn't there a more reasonal solution? Why as a Rural Carrier does the burden seem to be put totally on me or face consequeces?

 Also the addtional mileage associated with the delivery of parcels on the first trip needs to be addressed. The mail boxes are no longer accomadating the regular parcels we deliver and a lot of the homes are not near the mail box. I'm saying on a 60 mile evaluated route, pre- Amazon a route averaged 30 to 40 parcels per day and maybe adding 2 to 5 more miles a day. Now with Amazon averaging 70 to 90 parcels up to 100 or more on some days Rural Carriers are adding up to an addtional 15 miles or more per day. Should not all Rural Carriers get compensated for all miles driven? We have the scanners and they know how many miles we are driving per day.

We as a craft need to keep up with these changes. To get compensated for all expenses. If we as a craft do not claim what is ours, management will surely find a way to spend it in a way that does not benefit the Rural Craft. Also the safety issue involving parcels blocking the windows obstucting the view of a carriers surrondings and other traffic.
04:31 PM ET (US)
I'm saying my official route mileage is 72 miles in a rural area. Since the parcel numbers are way up i average 50 additional miles because of the half mile to each house. Why is this cost coming directly out of my pocket? I'm required to drive my personal car the additional mileage from the box to the house to complete deliver so why am I not required to get compensated for this required extra expense???
Edited 10-13-2017 04:54 PM
Been there / done that
07:44 PM ET (US)
@Terry Are you deviating due to road construction? If so you are supposed to get paid for the extra mileage. Just write the amount of miles deviated on your trip sheet daily. It wouldn't hurt to explain why to your Supervisor or PM too.
06:58 PM ET (US)
I know rural carriers are required to go up to a 1/2 mile to deliver but why are carriers not required to get paid for all the extra miles driven? How can you require carriers to drive extra miles without reimbursing them for expenses?
03:56 PM ET (US)
09:21 AM ET (US)
Screw ups by others does not make it right. Make sure you take pics of any suspect parcels to have as evidence when you hurt yourself and have to file a workman's comp claim.

All team lift parcels should be left at office and the customer notified.
06:50 PM ET (US)
Packages ------ Maximum length plus girth 108 inches (130 inches for USPS Retail Ground)
Edited 09-30-2017 09:10 AM
06:31 PM ET (US)
Parcel - Maximum size is 108" in combined length and girth (distance around the thickest part).
Large Parcel - Maximum size is 130" in combined length and girth (distance around the thickest part). Contents must weigh less than 70 lbs.
Irregular Parcel - Rolls and tubes up to 26 inches long
This predefined parcel includes unwrapped, paper-wrapped, or sleeve-wrapped articles that are not letter-size or flat-size (e.g., catalogs, directories).
Articles enclosed in envelopes that are not letter-size, flat-size, or machinable parcels.
Contents must weigh less than 16 oz.
06:25 PM ET (US)
USPS Regulations state, “No mail piece may weigh more than 70 pounds or measure more than 108 inches in length and girth combined, except USPS Retail Ground, which may not measure more than 130 inches in length and girth combined. For parcels, length is
the distance of the longest dimension and girth is the distance around the thickest part.
” These are the Postal Service guidelines.
09:58 PM ET (US)
 That's right! All you Postmasters better be getting you a big truck for the fall holiday season cause us carriers ain't going to handle the avalanche of parcels that's going hit your sweet asses!!

Let's see how management prepares for the biggest - last mile parcel delivery fiasco?? And I bet it ain't going to be good. I can't wait to hear how much $$$$ we lose after this is over. The more we lose the bigger the bonuses dived out to the ones who do the least work and are the most incompetent.
09:43 PM ET (US)
This fall and holiday season will be a delivery calamity.I don't care if they sort me a 1000 parcels that postmaster better be getting him a truck to delivery parcels. The dumasses think we ole boys can handle it they're going to face a rude awakening.
09:25 PM ET (US)
This idea some of us rurals come up with might help a few of you out. Since management is dysfunctional and our union has got complacent and lazy we are taking matters in our on hands. We bought a van and sat it at the lot next to the PO. We load it with all the packages we can't no longer get in our cars in the AM. We scan them as we would at the residence then a couple of us deliver them in the evening Works like a charm. Been doing it for almost a year and no one cares. If management ain't going to help and the damn union sure ain't going to do nothing we, had to come up with our on solution. We are ready for CHRISTMAS, are you? Or are you going to wait on management and the union? You'll be waiting a long damn time.
07:45 PM ET (US)
A July 2004 report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) noted that the Postal Service estimated the annual cost in FY 2003 for each city door delivery ($295) was more than twice as expensive as rural delivery ($143).

Looks like the city carriers Union works a whole lot harder for it's members!
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09:34 PM ET (US)
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the event of any serious widespread energy shortage, the
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