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LA Wardriving with socalwug.org -- and Kismet

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05-27-2008
04:56 AM ET (US)


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Frank K
07-02-2003
08:50 PM ET (US)
The APs leaked information such as IP addresses, email, email addresses etc. It's not that hard to see this in Kismet. Press "D" in the main Kismet window and you can see clear text data flying by.
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the fly
06-25-2003
11:25 PM ET (US)
Mike O - ok, fair cop. I hadn't considered the possibility that they analysed the traffic from Kismet (agreed - v.handy tool).

So, hands up those who think they analysed captured data from all 400 "AP"'s???? ;)
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John SaxtonPerson was signed in when posted
06-25-2003
01:01 PM ET (US)
Because WEP isn't considered to be secure enough and WPA isn't supported by enough vendors yet, many, if not most, businesses put their Wi-Fi networks outside of their firewall, and make their employees use VPN to get back inside. So, finding a non-WEP network doesn't tell you much.

If you connect to the network, you might get a DHCP lease and be able to get to the Internet, but you wouldn't be able to get onto that company's network. You might even see some "servers" in your "Connect to Server"/Network Neighborhood window, but those are most likely laptops that happen to have personal file sharing enabled, rather than corporate IT servers with serious amounts of sensitive data.

So, counting non-WEP networks is very misleading, and fear mongering.
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Mike O
06-25-2003
02:30 AM ET (US)
You're right, WEP is only one form of encryption.

However, to tell if a network is encrypted, you merely have to *receive* the signal. You don't need to access it.

That's what's so cool about Kismet & Airmagnet - they just receive. You can tell a lot about a network by just listening. And you can see what is, and is not, encrypted by listening to those signals floating through the air - WEP or otherwise.

Unscientific observations put the encrypted networks at about 50% - with about 30% using WEP. Which, of course, leaves about 50% "totally open, vulnerable, unencrypted". And probably a decent fudge factor for encrypted traffic like VPNs and SSL web pages running over those open links.

Now it's time for me to nerd out with an eBook on my iPaq.
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California
06-24-2003
10:41 PM ET (US)
Y'all are such nerds.
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Kernel SantosPerson was signed in when posted
06-24-2003
09:58 PM ET (US)
For OS X you can try KisMAC: http://www.binaervarianz.de/projekte/programmieren/kismac/.
Its GUI-rific.
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John ParresPerson was signed in when posted
06-24-2003
09:53 PM ET (US)
I hope y'all stopped somewhere along the way for a bowl of Pho! :D - JP
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the fly
06-24-2003
09:41 PM ET (US)
I always cringe when I read such things as "no attempt to access" and "totally unprotected" in the same paragraph.

Just because WEP is not activated it does not mean that some other form of encryption is in use.

By definition, if you know that "The percentage of these which were totally open, vulnerable, unencrypted networks was mindboggling" then you MUST have tried to access them.. no? hmmm.... :)
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phyx
06-24-2003
06:03 PM ET (US)
Kismet also just got (long awaited) MacOS X support in the latest cvs. Airport (not extreme) only though.

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