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03:28 AM ET (US)
did'nt know that jo and jade are mean man!do not insult another person's culture when you are so ignorant more like dumb!can't even tell the diff between a paki and an indian.
Edited 01-19-2007 03:30 AM
11:12 AM ET (US)
I've only now come across your 12/23 post on the UK government establishing traffic monitoring of all cars, and blaming the need to do this on the July terrorist attacks, which were carried out on public transport.

Therefore you might like to know that I was told in August at the Birmingham inter-city coach station that the left-luggage office had been closed. Reason? The July terrorist attacks. Which, needless to say, were conducted by people who kept their luggage with them.
09:58 AM ET (US)
So that's why I think this form of government is outmoded. Everytime they break wind they get their butts sued off. What's the point? Better to have separate more specific organizations that are more in touch with the people that preform public functions.
Edited 02-15-2006 10:03 AM
Jonathan Vos Post
12:20 PM ET (US)
The Wack-Pack
By William Rivers Pitt
Tuesday 14 February 2006

"... Attorney General Alberto Gonzales..., testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee regarding warrantless wiretapping of American citizens authorized by Mr. Bush, said, 'President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader scale.'"

"Really. George Washington authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader scale than what the National Security Agency is capable of today. How did he do this in an age when the whale-oil lamp was the height of technology? Did he use the old two-cans-and-some-string wiretap trick? Perhaps he was able to bug the Hessians using Ben Franklin's kite and key...."
Jonathan Vos Post
01:01 PM ET (US)
As discused on slashdot today:

"... 'Government surveillance has intensified ... particularly in Europe."

Posted by Zonk on Thursday February 09, @11:39AM
from the if-there-is-that-much-we-should-probably-rethink-this dept.

 Carl Bialik from the WSJ writes "The number of telephone wiretaps from 2000 to 2004 authorized by state and federal judges increased by 44%, the Wall Street Journal reports, in part because of a rise in terrorism investigations after 9/11, and because the Patriot Act extended surveillance to Internet providers. All the surveillance activity can put a strain on carriers. 'Smaller telecom companies in particular have sought help from outsiders in order to comply with the court-ordered subpoenas, touching off a scramble among third parties to meet the demand for assistance', the WSJ reports, adding, 'Government surveillance has intensified even more heavily overseas, particularly in Europe. Some countries, such as Italy, as well as government and law-enforcement agencies, are able to remotely monitor communications traffic without having to go through the individual service providers. To make it easier for authorities to monitor traffic, some also require registering with identification before buying telephone calling cards or using cybercafes.'"
08:45 AM ET (US)
I know Amazon does it but it's different when it's only one website and not the whole web.
12:58 PM ET (US)
Really sorry about that.

He isn’t above the law if he is doing all of that!

Also you said you write fiction, What is your author name so I can see?

Back to biometrics: I am completely against it as it sounds like something from the book of Revelation. ‘Because We Can Syndrome’ again. Think! But gov doesn’t think, they just do, because they have power. I just like how they announce this stuff without first stating how it is exactly to be used and then we vote on it, but like I said, before with government we elect politicians to ‘represent’ us. There is no fullproof system (only measures) and I don't feel like personally becomming a punching bag for criminals.

Way to invasive. Like if they can come up with something to stop someone from cutting off a body part of mine to steal eggs then I'm in but I don't think so.
So this could be the single most invasive technology ever devised and therefore should be relegated to something more private like maybe entering into the bathroom in your home and that's about it.

Also Google is offering the 'personal search history service.'
OK, fine I opt out, but who would opt in unless you’re a nun? I certainly don’t want a store manager spying on me as I browse his aisles I think I, at least, have that much privacy. If it is a large transaction that's fine for them to keep a receipt. I just don’t see it. Your giving someone your life history for Convenance. All your loves, desires, anger hatred...It’s arrogance.
In my apartment, I rent it but the landlord doesn't shine a camera on me and then promise not to show it to anybody else. There is a personal agreement that I will not be bothered while inside the apartment and everyone does that unless they are living with someone else, but even then, and do you trust a large cold cooperation to manage your life?
People should live for themselves instead of being pampered. Society needs to suck in some fresh air and live life.
Edited 02-07-2006 01:01 PM
Jonathan Vos Post
04:10 AM ET (US)
Forgot to say: I was going to give the car to my son in a few hours.
Jonathan Vos Post
04:03 AM ET (US)
My son was going to turn 17 in less than 12 hours. I'd had the Camry totally repainted metallic flake green; it looked better than new. I parked on California Boulevard, where it runs through the Caltech campus, and ran in to the Math department for a while. When I got back, I found the car totalled, rear-ended at maybe 50 or 60 mph, accordoned, windshields shattered. Took almost 3 days to get the poilice report. 81-year-old had blasted through stop signs, red lights, done major damage to 3 cars, mine the worst. Had hypoglycemic shock, caused (he admitted) because he took the medication without an accompanying meal. Eyewitness followed him as he made an illegal U-turn, ran some more red lights and stop signs. She stayed until the Pasadena Police Department arrived.

They asked about the accident. "What accident?" he asked. "I don't remember any acident." Cops pointed out the 1-inch gash on his forehead, 1/2 inch on a cheek, the split lip, all bleeding profusely. "Did I hit a pole?" he asked.

On the 5th trip to the police station, I brought my wife, as she technically owns the car, to demand they press criminal charges (hit-and-run). They refused. I investigated. Turns out he's the City Manager and also the City Attorney of a nearby city. And I thought nobody was above the law. Guess Bush-ism is catching. And I guess that I wasn't paranoid enough.
12:20 PM ET (US)
Sounds like an 'open source' tool but did it protect the user's and creator's rights? interesting another good book to check.

I have been studying Heim’s multidimensional (Quantum) theory lately as it has been one of the more recent topics for FTL (faster then light travel). A lattice(grid)like Metron 6-dimensions for a ‘Unified Field Theory’. Now this makes the masses more correct then ever but still not perfect. The reason this theory is so exciting is that it doesn’t chase other goals, I think in Quantum Mechanics or String theory, of trying to use infinite numbers and settles on a round number for extreme accuracy yet not perfection.

I think if FTL was possible it doesn’t necessarily mean we could do the God trot like viewing everything and everyone instantly.
The reason I think making stuff ‘free to all’ ,if they want it, is good is that it would firstly allow for a allot of possibilities by combining our wills together to do this safely. A standards approach would be turning the lights off without trying to close the curtain.
So turning the lights off/on is great. Choice.
Also, I don’t think we will very much be like God completely and achieve complete omniscience with ourselves because I believe that we are innately required to combine forces with other beings to achieve that type of power and not every being in the universe can all think the same way all the time, although some of the time to achieve great things. So that type of God power can be present but only with true freedom or love I guess. So it’s kind of like we have the ‘hive mind’ approach to survive but it’s messy besides.
I think freedom comes with responsibility.
Bernie Kelly
09:49 AM ET (US)
No, I really was talking about the Baxter / Clarke book. Having now been enlighted by wikipedia (hadn't been aware of the Bob Shaw story, "slow glass" etc - shame on me), I suppose that Baxter & Clarke were giving Bob Shaw a nod. I don't know how similar the two stories are.

In B&C's story I liked what they did with the inevitable changes to peoples' attitudes to privacy - no point in shutting the curtains any more, but turning the lights off should work...
Charlie StrossPerson was signed in when posted
08:31 AM ET (US)
Are you sure you're not confusing that with the Bob Shaw novel/fix-up of that name (based around the Hugo and Nebula shortlisted story "The Light of Other Days")?
Bernie Kelly
07:05 AM ET (US)
Bit late to chip in, but people might be interested in "The Light of Other Days" by Stephen Baxter / Arthur C Clarke. As far as I remember, it posits a device (some sort of wormhole jobby) which in its final iteration allows the user to observe any point in space, at any point in time. Because the technology becomes cheaply available, anyone can check out any event, any person, etc. As I recall they did an interesting job of working out the implications of this.
Like The Demolished Man, I guess (haven't read it), except the tools for privacy invasion / truth determination (depending on your point of view!) are freely available to all. Fun story.
11:25 AM ET (US)
Roads? in the future there are no roads.

Ah don't trust the government signs ;) Actually the recent book Market Forces by Richard K Morgan probably is good for this talk as it displays highway GPS car battles. Not sure about pedestrians though. I haven't read this but I am just reading only recent stuff lately and probably not as well read as allot of people here yet : )
There are just too many people in small areas, too much managed housing and managed people for that matter, but if you go out to the country still too random with all of the vehicle gadgets. I wouldn't even race there. Of course they have tracks now but such a pervasive society. Which is great I always dreamed of it but...

"...Bush has admitted that he gave orders that allowed the NSA to eavesdrop on a small number of Americans without the usual requisite warrants."

The government has always done this but the privacy barrier decreases exponentially with technol-o-gy. I was reading something interesting in the book Spin State where like AI was replacing government somehow : ()
It's like a guy using a cell phone (or thinking a thought soon, I will check out The Demolished Man) just to make a simple call but then he finds himself wrapped up in an international conspiracy just for the fact that he is connected to this powerful ALL Net. The one fact. Cool book title 'The Fact.' But, does information really identify total reality, not always because reality is cross dimensional and morphs. The information age moves aside for the multidimensional participation or spiritual age.
We have the ability to have info but were just not organizing it properly.
Jonathan Vos Post
02:23 PM ET (US)
It always amazed me that car drivers would suddenly fling open a car door into the face of a cyclist, or signal (in UK: indicate) a right turn and then immediately make a left-turn to collide with a cyclist. I speak from scarring experiences. Good to understand traffic; useful to develop defensive skills consistent with paranoia that there are car drivers TRYING to kill cyclists. And, speaking of appropriate paranoia in Bigbrotherstan:

Tice Admits Being a New York Times Source

"If you picked the word 'jihad' out of a conversation," Tice said, "the technology exists that you focus in on that conversation, and you pull it out of the system for processing."

According to Tice, intelligence analysts use the information to develop graphs that resemble spiderwebs linking one suspect's phone number to hundreds or even thousands more. [JVP: social network theory]

President Bush has admitted that he gave orders that allowed the NSA to eavesdrop on a small number of Americans without the usual requisite warrants.

But Tice disagrees. He says the number of Americans subject to eavesdropping by the NSA could be in the millions if the full range of secret NSA programs is used.

"That would mean for most Americans that if they conducted, or you know, placed an overseas communication, more than likely they were sucked into that vacuum," Tice said.

[out the airlock and iinto the vacuum with them all; let God sort them out]
Charlie StrossPerson was signed in when posted
10:36 AM ET (US)
I think there's something to be said for requiring cyclists to take a traffic safety test (basically to ensure they understand the Highway Code) before being allowed on the roads ... and for requiring would-be drivers to spend at least 12 months on a bicycle (or a low-power moped) before letting them behind the wheel of a car for the first time. Might be a bit more civility all round, if everyone had to walk a mile in the other guy's shoes.

... But I can't see any of our local political parties adopting that as a policy. Altogether too much of a vote-loser, especially among the neds with souped-up hatchbacks who most need it.
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