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agodlywomanPerson was signed in when posted
08:25 AM ET (US)
i had strange experience at ellis clinic also. was in there 2 hours and he kept pulling out the bible and quoting scripture. also kept telling me how awesome he was. i don't feel you need to say that. others will simply know. impairment rating was so low i haven't used it. i paid for plane trip and hotel myself. i will not use this report.
Edited 03-18-2017 08:26 AM
RAHAPerson was signed in when posted
01:34 PM ET (US)
Does anyone know of any good pain management specialists in Fort Worth TX. DFW area?
SnowedPerson was signed in when posted
11:56 PM ET (US)
You may not come back here to read this but let me tell you I feel your pain. One thing I am sure you got wrong though is Dr. Ellis is not calling you or any of his patients frauds and liars. I am sure he was directing his frustration at OWCP and their network of doctors who perpetuate the fraud upon us the injured.

Finding doctors willing to help the injured due to OWCP shenanigans is very difficult. Finding qualified doctors who know/understand the system is even rarer. Dr. Ellis definitely needs to revamp his staff and I am sure dealing with patient stress is not easy either. Staff needs to be trained in empathy and in giving patients accurate information.

We need to support the doctors who attempt to help us. Dr. Ellis was there when I needed him. I also listened to his preaching but respected if he was there for me for the medical I would listen to his hour of God....after all it was his professional time he wasn't getting paid for, and I had all the time in the world. I too had trouble communicating with the staff so I understand the frustration.

I know you were looking for help on what to do but it looks like you may have burned your bridge with Dr. Ellis. If you would like further assistance I can try to help some. It is not the end of the world if you do not appeal the award decision. You can always work to correct the issues in your case and then go for another rating in the future. It is hard to help though when important details of the decision are unknown to the forum members.

Dr. Ellis is very credible to OWCP and some offices just seem to hate him and his reports. Other districts accept his reports quite easily. He definitely knows the rating process inside and out. The doctor who claims to have written the guides....I would have to see it to believe it that he was correct over Dr. Ellis.
Edited 03-17-2017 12:05 AM
Brownbomber2Person was signed in when posted
07:53 PM ET (US)

Rick Owens It no longer matters, I am done. I do know what me and my wife were told and know how we were treated afterwards by Ellis Clinic. I am done here.
Rick OwensPerson was signed in when posted
05:54 PM ET (US)
Brownbomber2 - Can understand your frustration completely. Don't know why - but, visits to certain doctors work for some and may not work for others. I believe it has something to do with differences of opinion. I can honestly say that Doc Ellis helped me with my case tremendously. First time around his report did no good at all as far as OWCP stated...and USPS chimed in and accused Doc Ellis of, more or less, not being qualified to provide permanent impairment ratings.

My case went on and on and on for several years (started about 2004 and finally over in 2010). Second opinions over and over. Referee physicians over and over. And, then finally, after 6 years of fighting, a DMA, district medical advisor, stated "the second opinion physician provided OWCP with a full body impairment rating - the referee physician followed with the same order - records clearly show that Mr. Owens' impairment rating should have been for right and left LE, lower extremity, NOT full body impairment. The ratings applied by Dr. John Ellis stand as correct."

My problem was over. It took over 6 years to finally get a DMA to see the light. I told my CE's over and over that their 2nd opinion docs, and referee docs, were following the first 2nd op doc's full body impairment rating...but no, I was stupid and did not know what I was talking about.

In the end - Doc Ellis' impairment rating was 100% accurate. This was NOT his fault - OWCP turned down his report over and over...refused to see what was clearly accurate. I CANNOT and WILL NOT blame Doc Ellis for the mistakes made by idiots at OWCP.

It is so sad how injured employees are treated by many claims examiners, and DMA's, at OWCP. Should be a way to file a lawsuit against them.

Please keep this in mind. Schedule awards are provided for impairment ratings on individual parts or areas of the body (lower extremities, etc) - NOT on WHOLE BODY IMPAIRMENTS. Always make certain that your impairment rating WAS NOT a whole body rating...it makes a HUGE difference in award amount.
VWPerson was signed in when posted
01:57 PM ET (US)
Brownbomber2- Wasn't looking for you to hire me was just trying to help. I never charge to answer questions or give advice or direction. I honestly enjoy helping people when it comes to workers' comp because I don'i like seeing people get screwed over. Didn't like it when I was a union rep and don't like it now. If you change your mind I and others are here to give advice and help.
Edited 03-15-2017 01:57 PM
Brownbomber2Person was signed in when posted
01:39 PM ET (US)

VW Sorry, I don't have the money to hire you to be my advocate. After the conversation with Mr. Ellis yesterday here, it pissed me off enough to tear up the paperwork from O.W.C.P. and throw it in the trash. I am done.
Brownbomber2Person was signed in when posted
01:05 PM ET (US)

Doc Ellis
We have had our last conversation. As you said below, federal workers and vets are liars and frauds, so I don't know why you would want anything to do with me. I am a vet with 10 years military service and 20 years as a letter carrier and proud of both jobs. I have no more use for you or your clinic and don't be calling me again to start arguments over the phone. I remember your conversation that said you were not going to argue with me and you were dropping me as a patient. Consider me dropped permanently!
Doc EllisPerson was signed in when posted
12:17 PM ET (US)
VW and BrownBomber2. I have had a change of satff. Sounds like I should apologize and refund any payments. Call Me. 405-917-5336. Tell my staff that I asked you to call in this forum. They will pull your chart and we can talk. Doc Ellis
VWPerson was signed in when posted
11:55 AM ET (US)
brownbomber2- You stated you filed an appeal. What type of appeal did you file and was it an appeal that you did because you were offered appeal rights? When you appealed did you submit new medical evidence or did you just make the argument that you should have been sent for a referee exam? Have you requested from OWCP a copy of your SOAF, questions posed to the SECOP examiner, the SECOP examiners report and the DMA's notes or memo?

I totally understand where you are coming from with Ellis clinic. I flew my wife out to Oklahoma from Florida to get her impairment rating. When OWCP disputed it she called Ellis clinic and was first told they would provide a rebuttal not to worry. Rebuttal report never came and overtime my wife called to check on it they acted like they didn't know what my wife was talking about.
Brownbomber2Person was signed in when posted
11:00 AM ET (US)

Doc Ellis, it was not "Ells Clinic" who told me and my wife who sat through the entire examination of two hours, it was you personally! The first hour was a conversation in which you told me that you were going to change my life through the "word" and the second hour was the examination and the filling out of forms. My wife was thoroughly surprised at your response once the O.W.C.P. doctor in St. Louis who actually wrote the Sixth A.M.A. Guidelines, dismissed your report. Your last line here, "The trouble with my helping my federal employees and vets is that I get so damn mad at the fraud and lies". You can call me a liar all you want, but I have a witness to everything you said and I am not lying. You sir, are the one who lied to me and my wife! That 8 hour drive to Oklahoma City was a waste of my time and money. My schedule award is over and done with as far as O.W.C.P. is concerned because they do not find you credible.
Doc EllisPerson was signed in when posted
02:12 PM ET (US)
Brownbomber2 #12891
I apologize, if Ellis Clinic told you that you would have to pay $$$ to repeat a Schedule Award. There is no payment required because OWCP pre-aproves Ellis Clinic's requests for repeat Schedule Awards. My staff probably did tell you that a that a rebuttal letter would not be done. Even though OWCP would pay me for a rebuttal letter the reason I do not do them is that rebuttal reports do not work and delays your getting paid for your Schedule Award. OWCP must rely on the latest exam and not a rebuttal based on a prior exam. Also, to me, it would be dishonest to charge my government for a report that I know will not work.

I suggest that PEN consider setting up a Form and list of Second Opinion doctors who are harming our federal employees with dishonest reports and not suffering for their lies. Some examples. 3 surgeries on the right knee including a total knee replacement. Doing better than many. 4 surgeries on the left knee including 2 total knee replacements requiring a knee brace and cane. I rated the right knee a 25% in the middle of the good result class and the left knee at 59%. The District Medical Adviser (DMA) rated both knees at 21% without sending the employee for a new exam!!! A TSA Air Marshall from Minnesota seemed to be upset with a second opinion doctor that after being in the room for 5 minutes and never touching him or taking off his shoe or sock wrote that unequivocally the employee did have back pain or spinal nerve problems down his leg. I explained that OWCP sent him to the greatest doctor in the world and that I was not a good because I would have to actually examine and touch him to make my diagnosis.

The trouble with my helping my federal employees and vets is that I get so damn mad at the fraud and lies.
God Bless, Doc Ellis, Ellis Clinic
PS: Over the years you can and should repeat your Schedule Awards if you get worse.
Brownbomber2Person was signed in when posted
02:14 PM ET (US)

VW Done, should be there shortly. Thanks
Brownbomber2Person was signed in when posted
01:54 PM ET (US)
In December of 2013 I was forced onto disability retirement by the Postal Service after falling and sustain injuries as a letter carrier. After surgeries on my foot to remove tendons and the fourth surgery on my shoulder for on the job injuries I was given permanent restrictions that prevented me from walking more than twenty minutes at a time or lifting more than 25 lbs. My postmaster said there was nothing I could do in the office and they retired me. I filed for a schedule award after visiting Ellis Clinic who advertises on here. That opinion was rejected out of hand and I was sent to another OWCP doctor in St. Louis who helped write the A.M.A. guidelines. He reduced by two thirds the amount of disability rating given by Ellis Clinic. I contacted Ellis Clinic and even though I had been told that they would issue a rebuttal, they refused and told me I would have to come back to Oklahoma and pay them to give another exam. I told them what they could do with that and took the schedule award and a appealed on the basis they should have gotten a third impartial doctor to referee. They sent that opinion back to the same doctor in St. Louis and told him to reread and rebut my appeal. He did and said he did nothing wrong. I got the paperwork this week saying I can appeal again and request a Oral hearing, Review of the Written Record, reconsideration or Ecab Appeal. To me, this is like dealing with a school yard bully who is the child of the principal. He hits you, you complain to the principal and they ask them if they did it and they say no. The principal then says, okay they must be telling the truth. Your complaint is denied. O.W.C.P. is telling me that their doctor says there was no permanent injury sustained in either the shoulder or foot despite the medical records and the postal service retiring me on disability. There are no attorneys that will help, I have contacted all I can find, even the ones advertised on here. I am pissed enough to not give up, just out of spite. What can I do next? I have about a 10 day time limit from when the letter was written and when I finally received it to respond on some of the options. Thanks.
JustMePerson was signed in when posted
09:11 PM ET (US)
Neice - thank you. I thought I was doing something wrong.
neicePerson was signed in when posted
09:03 AM ET (US)
just me - No, we can't see much at all anymore.
JustMePerson was signed in when posted
10:01 PM ET (US)
Does the Accepted Condition and the CQS Case Compensation Payment History Not allow postal workers to see their information / case Status anymore?
Edited 03-06-2017 10:01 PM
mailladypostladyPerson was signed in when posted
09:52 PM ET (US)
Thanks all!!
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