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stoneysmommyPerson was signed in when posted
04-17-2018
07:32 AM ET (US)
U do know that telling your stuff about amazon on this site or any other site does not get the union involved at all. File a grievance & get involved-the union can not even start to help without you getting involved.
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R3Person was signed in when posted
04-16-2018
07:45 PM ET (US)
A while back I ask about why amazon was exempt from the weight and size rules - nobody could answer that question. I answered it today, had one heavy / heavy box on the route today (you could feel it) The postal service had NO WEIGHT amount on the parcel. During the route I had the opportunity to weight it - 90 pounds. How about the union start working for the employees, not themselves or is that to much to ask?
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Rick OwensPerson was signed in when posted
04-14-2018
05:03 PM ET (US)
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Diko Noncha
04-13-2018
08:32 AM ET (US)
Hello, I am a new postal worker in the North East and I was just curious on what everyone thinks is the best glove, to keep warm, while still being able to sort and deliver mail.
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2yr reg
04-13-2018
07:29 AM ET (US)
So how many rts does an office need to get a supervisor hired
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dumbolehick from MS
04-11-2018
07:57 AM ET (US)
Kritter, no disrespect, just opinion. Management cannot allow? Where does it say that in the 603, 38, or the step 4? What if you have a "undocumented" hardship where you are helping a lifelong friend and going to the door and handing them the mail. You can claim this as lunch if anyone ever questions it. I've stopped at friend's house and played quitar or just talked about farmwork and so. management can't stop that
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KritterPerson was signed in when posted
04-11-2018
06:06 AM ET (US)
/m13273 the step 4 you cited is the correct one.

I believe your interpretation is wrong.

As 603 states, the limit is 1/2 mile one way.

Manglement cannot ask, require, allow, or compensate for deviation over the 1/2 mile unless it's on an "Amazon" Sunday/holiday delivery.
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MikeCr.
04-09-2018
06:45 PM ET (US)
Thank you for the speedy response. I really appreciate when the more knowledgeable people help me out. I was not trying to sound difficult about it; I just get tired of the runaround. Again, thank you for the response.
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dumbolehick from MS
04-09-2018
06:30 PM ET (US)

Tell manager that this national grievance, step 4 ruling sets the precedent........ notice word REQUIRED....... you MAY go over 1/2 mile or 1 mile round trip, but they can't REQUIRE you do to so. I would not only ask for mileage, but I would ask for actual time when I file my grievance for being REQUIRED to go over 1 mile round trip.





Mr. Joey Johnson
Director of Labor Relations
National Rural Letter Carriers'
Association
1630 Duke Street
Alexandria, VA 22314-3467
Re: C10R-4E-C15011675
Class Action
Park Hills, MO 63601-9998
Dear Joey:
On several occasions, the most recent being July 16, 2015, the parties discussed the
above-captioned grievance at the fourth step of our contractual grievance procedure.
The issue in this grievance concerns the delivery of ordinary parcels by rural carriers
beyond one-half mile.
During our discussion, we mutually agree that the following will constitute full and
complete settlement of this grievance.
Handbook P0-603, Rural Carrier Duties and Responsibilities, section 331.21 states in
part "you must deliver parcels to any residence or business that is on the line of travel, or
within one-half mile of the route and has a passable road leading to it."
The parties agree these provisions limit the distance rural carriers are required to deviate
in order to deliver ordinary parcels.
Please sign and return the enclosed copy of this letter as your acknowledgment of
agreement to settle this grievance.
Time limits were extended by mutual cons
Edited 04-09-2018 06:33 PM
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MikeCr.
04-09-2018
05:43 PM ET (US)
Hello. I post occasionally post, but mostly lurk. I hope everyone is doing well.

Frustrated RCA here, and I have a question that I hope might be answered. And I hope I don't come off as a RCA vs Regular, because that's not my intent.

So I help out on a few routes, and one route just recently got a new sub. This route has a few of those over .5 miles one way driveway. It's my understanding that any driveway that round trips over a mile; we don't deliver the parcels, correct? Well the regular knows one of these people, friends or something like that, so they run their parcels to them. Their driveway is .9 miles one way. And they order packages almost daily. When I run the route, they get a notice for their oversize parcels.

Well I've been the one training and helping this new sub on the route, and told her that address gets a notice. Well she noticed one this past Friday, and I had to help her today with that route, and saw that package on the case with a redeliver note on it. I went to confer with the supervisor, and told him that the regular delivers their parcels to them because she knows them, but the driveway is over the mileage limit. He told me that if the regular sets the precedent, then we should do it too.

So, what's the correct answer please? Because if I'm in the wrong, I told the sub wrong, and that makes me feel bad for giving false information. And if they are going to force me to deliver because the regular does because she knows the people at the address, should I ask her to pay my mileage that I'm giving away? Thank you for any replies.
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leavingPerson was signed in when posted
04-07-2018
06:08 PM ET (US)
/m13269 -- jo -- "Can a rural.carrier buy back time worked previous to neinv a regular afte1993".

-- One can buy back sub-time worked in the 1980's -- up to 31 DEC 1988. Any sub time worked from 01 JAN 1989 to present is not available for buy back -- at this time.

-- However H.R. 5389 is floating around congress, which IF passed, would allow carriers to buy back sub-time worked after 21 DEC 1988. Call your congressional representative to encourage him/her to vote yes.

-- Depending on how much was earned as an RCA and ensuing interest might make buy backs expensive. But until H.R. 5389 is passed and signed, nothing to get overly excited about.
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leavingPerson was signed in when posted
04-07-2018
05:57 PM ET (US)
/m13268 -- Tbear -- Thankfully your unfortunate experience with the USPS is over.
-- Best of luck with future endeavors elsewhere.
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jo
04-07-2018
10:12 AM ET (US)
Can a rural.carrier buy back time worked previous to neinv a regular afte1993
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TbearPerson was signed in when posted
04-06-2018
10:23 PM ET (US)
Hope everyone is doing okay. Have an update. December 29th was my last day working for the post office. A week later I applied at another post office. About 2 weeks later the post master called and asked me to come in Friday morning at 8 am for an interview. Thursday afternoon at 4:20 got a call saying that the post master went home sick and my interview was canceled and he would call me Monday or Tuesday and re schedule me.didn't hear from them. So i sold my vehicle. Yesterday got a call from the post master wanting to know if I was still interested in the job. I said let think it over and I will call you back. So this morning I called him back to tell him I was going to pass on the job .I said I sold my vehicle. Because no one would take the time to let me know that I wouldn't hear from you for almost 3 months. I don't know if they a running out of people in the area that havent tried working for the postal service. Because he said that he would give me a llv if I wanted to be a cca.he said if not he would have to do another search. I said that I wasn't interested in working for the postal service anymore.
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leavingPerson was signed in when posted
04-04-2018
08:28 AM ET (US)
/m13266 -- R3 -- "Was informed that amazon is exempt from the size and weight requirements of USPS rules on Sundays/Holidays because that is all that is delivered and that is part of the contract signed between USPS and amazon. Can anybody verify this ?"

-- One would need to have access to the USPS-Amazon contract.

"because that is all that is delivered.."

-- Saw a few postings during count that USPS priority and other parcels were getting delivered on Sunday, not just Amazon items.

"(Was informed by a supervisor)"

-- Well, you should know the axiom about when manglement's lips are moving....
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R3Person was signed in when posted
04-03-2018
07:10 PM ET (US)
QUESTION

Was informed that amazon is exempt from the size and weight requirements of USPS rules on Sundays/Holidays because that is all that is delivered and that is part of the contract signed between USPS and amazon. Can anybody verify this ? (Was informed by a supervisor)

Thank you
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leavingPerson was signed in when posted
04-01-2018
08:21 PM ET (US)
/m13264 -- stoneysmommy -- "I can remember the day my supervisor broke it to us that we’d no longer be allowed to get an X day for working our holiday. "

-- Sounds like time to get in touch with your Assistant District Representative.

-- Maybe the ADR can help with your wording.
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stoneysmommyPerson was signed in when posted
04-01-2018
01:53 PM ET (US)
I’m not on RDWL I don’t want extra time working lol I want as much time off as we should have. I have seen somewhere a lwop-holiday? I’d b happy if we were just allowed to have a different day of the same week OFF for our holiday. Extra pay isn’t that important to me although truly if we are required to work a holiday-designated included-we should therefore be paid accordingly. But my resolution would maybe
Whereas: carriers required to work their designated holiday are loosing up 7 days OFF a year that other carriers are allowed.
Resolution: if carrier is required by management to work their designated holiday the carrier must be awarded? A day OFF in the same week preferably the day following the holiday if desired & a qualifying sub is available. In order to grant the carrier a 3 day weekend as other Carriers receive. Or any day of that week off which is desired by carrier & a sub is available. If the carrier so desires.

I don’t know how other crafts do it but Mayb a lwop/holiday-would work. But not a lwop that would cause carriers not to be paid for their holiday (if taken day before or after holiday) or one that will go against us if we need our lwop for other reasons throughout the year.
Or an X day instead of straight pay for the day.

See how long I make it when I try to explain it? I need help fixing that! Also i someone will say lwop X days don’t work that way? Or whatever their objections will be-I need help figuring out the resolution.
I’m sure that the way we were paid has changed In the last 3 yrs-i don’t know how to look & find the way it used to be & get that back if I could that would be great. But I’d settle for a diff day to b considered our holiday if not allowed to have our official designated holiday OFF.
Pretty sure we used to be able to choose double pay or 1/2 day pay & X day & our holiday pay.if we were required to work. I can remember the day my supervisor broke it to us that we’d no longer be allowed to get an X day for working our holiday.
The reason it was made our designated holiday in the 1st place was to allow us the extra day off that everyone else was getting but somehow thru the years that has been lost in translation
Thank U very much in advance!
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leavingPerson was signed in when posted
04-01-2018
09:03 AM ET (US)
/m13262 -- stoneysmommy -- "I need help with a resolution or constitutional change that would allow Monday relief day carriers forced to work their designated holidays to receive a different day to make up for the day they loose. I need real Help! Ive no experience in doin all this!"

-- Sorry to say it is too late as the contract negotiations are under way for the next contract.

-- What you are suggesting needs to be submitted as a resolution at the local union meeting. There used to be a form for submitting it. Discussing it with local union steward and / or union officials may be helpful in drafting your resolution. "Worthy" resolutions are forwarded up the line, hopefully to reach NRLCA HQ.

-- Manglement should be "encouraged" to hire more relief carriers.

-- Are you on the Relief Day Work List ( RDWL )?

-- Pages 11 and 12 cover working relief days and options for pay as well as getting an X-Day.
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stoneysmommyPerson was signed in when posted
04-01-2018
08:32 AM ET (US)
I need help with a resolution or constitutional change that would allow Monday relief day carriers forced to work their designated holidays to receive a different day to make up for the day they loose. I need real Help! Ive no experience in doin all this! We can loose up to 7 days off this yr that others carriers are getting.
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