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Extreme environmental irony, Shrub-style

Pat YorkPerson was signed in when posted
02:25 AM ET (US)
Are you a union shop, James? Paying people what they're worth is very, very expensive. Look for the 'bug' . the union-made symbol, on the page. Schools, government agencies, etc. have to hire union shops to do their printing.
Stefan JonesPerson was signed in when posted
07:36 PM ET (US)
Nahhhh! It was printed on paper made from old-growth timber.

Mink isn't endangered enough.
James Wallis
07:19 PM ET (US)
I think at least one point has been missed here: the US government paid $135,615 to print 10,000 copies of a 170-page report.

I run a publishing company. Our typical budget for 5000 copies of a 160-page letter-size book -- including all text and artwork -- is about one-tenth of that.

What were they printing it on? Mink?
Stefan Jones
08:52 PM ET (US)
Oh, I think the left is still around. I lived in the Bay Area until a couple months back, and they're hard to miss. A lot of lefties aren't even co-opted. But most DO lack the motivating nastiness Pat mentions, and the ones who ARE creative and cranky and motivated waste their time on Street Theater crap (Ooooh! Giant effigy puppets and drummers! Yeah, that will make the WTO delegates break down in tears, throw away their badges and attend a teach-in about GMOs) and on gnashing their teeth over bogy-man issues like Starbucks.

I'm hopeful, though. Bush is burning through his War Leader capital real fast.
Pat YorkPerson was signed in when posted
12:59 PM ET (US)
From Merriam-Webster online:
1 a : morally reprehensible : SINFUL, WICKED <an evil impulse> b : arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct <a man of evil reputation>

To deliberately cut off research into alternative energy sources that could free the world from its dependance on oil is evil.

Yes, there is also arrogance deluxe in all this, but that's rather evil too.

I don't know where the left is, Stefan, maybe it doesn't exist anymore as it did in former times--it's certainly been coopted by the universal search for a buck. I also wonder it the left lacks the pure, single-minded vindictiveness of the right when it comes to protecting the good as they see the good.
Stefan Jones
07:37 PM ET (US)
This isn't evil. It's arrogant, pissy, and dishonest. It's another symptom of the corruption by the administration by oil money, which isn't illegal because, well, things were set up that way.

If the left had as many blowhard radio show hosts, cranky millionaire publishers, and legions of freeper-style activists as the right, Bush would be met at every fundraising junket by angry sign-wavers howling for his impeachment.
04:10 PM ET (US)
there's also the one where he appoints a critic of campaign finance reform to head enforcement of campaign finance laws. "He also named a vocal critic of affirmative action as civil rights chief at the Education Department."
Pat YorkPerson was signed in when posted
03:55 PM ET (US)
You've gotta be kidding. You don't think two evils can live in parallel? Ha!

Allowing alternative energies to wither from lack of R&D money is plain sinful and feeds the very problems that allowed 9-11 to happen.

You've got to look at the bigger picture, Shane.
Shane BodreroPerson was signed in when posted
03:12 PM ET (US)
Evil? No.

Crashing planes into office buildings is evil.
Sending suicide bombers into hotels is evil.

This is just budget cutting.
Pat YorkPerson was signed in when posted
01:55 PM ET (US)
The thing is, Woot, the planet will be JUST FINE. It will survive and integrate the damage over a few million years, which is no time at all geologically. It's the plants and animals that we are part of that are at risk of doom.

I know this seems disengenous, but I don't mean it to be. It's an important distinction to me. We aren't the alpha and omega of the planet, any more than the dinosaurs were and we've been around a helluva lot shorter time.

I don't know how we got this way. Its a good question. I imagine the lust for material wealth is at the core of it, and hubris--lots and lots of hubris.
01:03 PM ET (US)
How did we let it get to this? You have Bush, we have Blair, they're pissing our futures away for a few more years of power, it's sick.

I want a new planet. This one's broke.
Pat YorkPerson was signed in when posted
12:39 PM ET (US)
Never have I been so sorry to be thanked for a link.

I sometimes wonder about who the evil empire really is from the viewpoint of long term planetary environmental survival.

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