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Hannah BlectorPerson was signed in when posted
12:18 PM CST(US)
It flows everywhere in the Post Office. And most things are uphill here, especially for city carriers. Only USPS managers can make putting mail in a box difficult. It is not rocket science, but for them everything may as well be.
SweatyrubberthumbPerson was signed in when posted
10:36 AM CST(US)
Hannah - so in the Post office crap flows uphill.
Hannah BlectorPerson was signed in when posted
10:24 AM CST(US)
There are a lot of people who are not qualified and equipped to manage people, care for customers, or make smart business decisions. However, some of them still want to be managers instead of being workers. Companies whose survival and profitability depend on having qualified managers will not place those unqualified people in management positions. In fact, they don't want such people in their business in any capacity. Fortunately for some of the unqualified ones they happen upon the US Postal Service. The USPS has been hiring and promoting such misfits for so long that they are embedded in upper management promoting their kindred sociopaths.
Joe S
06:11 AM CST(US)
I think it's a cult. They cause a very toxic, hostile work environment. It's evil. Have you ever known someone before they went into postal management? They become different people in a very negative way.
Edited 06-24-2017 06:15 AM
06:07 AM CST(US)
I used to think it was just the way the station I work at was run, but after reading all these posts, and meeting a fellow carrier from another state 300 miles away, it appears it is like this everywhere. I cannot understand who and where they found this "business model" to follow? This is a great career, I enjoy what I do, so why must management be so overbearing? It's like a tyranny !
10:27 PM CST(US)
96054-You are so right-after our inspection, most of us are on permanent overtime due to the monster routes the PO decided to implement. Now the office is getting calls from the POOM asking why "John" or "Mike" is on the street for 8-10 hours everyday. They did it to themselves, brilliant management move....
SweatyrubberthumbPerson was signed in when posted
08:51 PM CST(US)
CCA - /m96055 it's your health but if it were me I wouldn't double any med just to deal with there antics.
08:28 PM CST(US)
96053-I haven't even thought about it. I just keep taking my meds. Just doubled my dose three days ago for the anxiety and hypervigilance. I'm guessing it starts working within a couple of weeks for newer dosage. As a CCA I just bite my tongue and let my Steward know everything about every conversation my sup has with me.
comfortablynumbPerson was signed in when posted
08:23 PM CST(US)
/m96044 The wording in the manual is something like "the employee, upon returning from S/L, shall immediately fill out a 3971 and present it to mgt" What it doesn't say is "the employee, upon returning to work, shall sign a mgt generated 3971 and present it to mgt" They tried that here and we just threw them away and filled out our own. We argued in the beginning but carriers prevailed and they don't do it anymore. Mgt is forever trying to take seconds from us day after day and if we let them they will add up. My job is to add seconds day after day and let those add up. How you might ask? Kill them with their own rules. It takes longer when you do it by the book.
Edited 06-23-2017 08:24 PM
SweatyrubberthumbPerson was signed in when posted
08:14 PM CST(US)
CCA - /m96052 you said you have PTSD. Have you considered getting FMLA for your condition? You could be protected by going or staying home if they trigger your PTSD and there's nothing they could do about it.
08:05 PM CST(US)
96043-Thank you. I case a different route every day. I opt when I can if it will go for at least two weeks.
96050-Thank you as well. I should say I stopped answering my cell phone while I'm out on the route. I did this because it never fails, I get more anxious as the time gets later and closer to my estimated 3996 time. Almost every single day, the sup would call and send me into panic mode for the rest of the shift and well into the night. I already have PTSD and the calls don't help. I just wondered if the sup saying something to me about office times varying had anything to do with not answering. I received an office count for the 2 days following that discussion. Mgmt stresses me out so much with this times crap. I case and deliver as if I'm in penalty all day long. And it's never good enough it seems.
SweatyrubberthumbPerson was signed in when posted
07:49 PM CST(US)
New steward /m96036 - make a copy of this and hand it to him or place it on his desk -

"18 U.S.C. 1001 reads as follows:

“Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully – (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact; (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or (3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.”
04:27 PM CST(US)
96042 If you are getting DOIS related discipline for leave or return times, they are breaking the contract.

Time Projection Rules
Projections cannot determine letter carriers’ workload
In 2007, the NALC and USPS settled a national-level dispute over management's use of DOIS projections (M-01664) in determining a letter carrier's daily workload. In 2011, the parties further agreed that projections can not determine a letter carrier's daily workload when they settled a national-level dispute that arose for the Greater Indiana District's use of an "office efficiency tool." This settlement (M-01769) is applicable to any other tool/system/program currently being used or developed in the future to project office and/or street time.
04:19 PM CST(US)
96036 That would be theft of time? I don't think that is a grievance because it does not concern you. I would notify OIG because it is theft. If you get retaliated against for reporting it then you will have whistle blower rights.
I would not have a second thought against reporting it because of the way they harass us for every little minute we spend on the route when we actually work and he just sits and surfs the net or something all day.
08:22 AM CST(US)
We have relay drivers who drop our mail off in boxes. Our vehicles are for our transport to rte and our comfort
11:38 PM CST(US)

i worked in paradise and winterwood stations. easy las vegas is one of the worste places to work. Red plums are so thick. full coverages 3 times a week hated everything about the working environment. the union their has 3 full time officers nice people but not willing to fight.

good luck rob i feel for you

alaska mailman
10:43 PM CST(US)
Mvac /96039 What exactly do you mean you use your personal vehicles? Are you loading mail and carrying your route out of your personal vehicle?
sweatyrubberthumbPerson was signed in when posted
09:26 PM CST(US)
Hannah - there's a privacy act statement on the 3971 itself, privacy act applies to all official forms. Grievance? Yes . Lawsuit? Possibly.
Edited 06-22-2017 09:27 PM
Hannah BlectorPerson was signed in when posted
08:48 PM CST(US)
Comments on how you feel about mgmt leaving their 3972 review with carrier comments and mgmt comments and threat of discipline and unscheduled absences circled on a carrier's case ledge for anyone to see? What about a mgmt generated 3971 they expect carrier to sign (in place of the AL in lieu of SL 3971 he filled out) charging him with AWOL left in the same manner?
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