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12003
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
06-27-2017
10:02 PM ET (US)
/m12002 The links all return Page Not Found.
12001
Velma
06-27-2017
02:22 PM ET (US)
/m12000 They are excessing clerks across the country. They don't have enough jobs to withhold for the amount of people affected. Clerks can volunteer to go further than the 50 mile limit for involuntary reassignment and the union and post office can mutually agree to extend the 50 mile limit if they find it necessary place people. They will withhold until the excessing events are over and everyone is placed. My end date says June of 2018, I assume that means that it could take a year to shuffle everyone.
12000
Ptf-20
06-27-2017
01:35 PM ET (US)
I'm senior ptf in level 20. Our reg clerk just retired. I was told today they won't convert me due to withholding in the eastern area. My district has no withholding under the 50 mile rule but saying the eastern district does. So what does this mean? How long can they do withholding? Is there anything I can file thru the union? Thanks for any info.
11999
Small Office PTF
06-26-2017
03:51 PM ET (US)
I work in a small Level 18 office with no carriers, just me and the PM. I feel there is no need for a PM here as I know all the admin tasks she does and can do them better since I have to show her how to run certain reports every month and many other tasks and she has been my PM for over a year! She does mail sorting with me every AM and then I stand around until the window opens. She closes and opens her email dozens of times a day, stares at me at the window, runs up out of her chair the second I process a package and grabs it to put it in the hamper, puts the newspapers away, etc. She is bored out of her mind! The USPS can save so much money by removing PM's from these little offices where the clerk is more than capable of handling every single thing with time to spare. So frustrating having a boss that makes double my salary yet does not know as much as I do and I have been with the postal service for less than 4 yrs!!
11998
Marbar
06-25-2017
09:14 PM ET (US)
In my level 18 (with its 5 RMPO'S), there is plenty to keep me and my Postmaster busy. For the past 3 years, we worked the mail together, then I boxed mail and waited on customers, while the PM did her management work. And anytime she had to leave the office, I was there to work our office. Then a couple of months ago, the district said we were not allowed to do clerk work at the same time. (what a bunch of crap from desk jockeys). Then I had to be put on standby and watch my PM try to get clerk work and her management work done before the end of the day. We used to have the office running efficiently, now its just chaos. The district and headquarters care nothing about customer service or their employees. And I really do believe that the job cutting needs to be at the district and headquarters level. Just cut the desk jockey jobs in half and enough savings would be realized to keep those who actually touch the mail in business. And that Postal Pulse survey, I can't wait to set it on fire. It will make a good U tube video.
11996
PMR2PTFPerson was signed in when posted
06-25-2017
05:57 PM ET (US)
/m11991
I kind of feel that way, especially knowing what the PMs salary is, but most of the tme it's just a matter of trying to stay busy between sparse customers.
Edited 06-25-2017 08:03 PM
11995
PMR2PTFPerson was signed in when posted
06-25-2017
05:54 PM ET (US)
/m11984
Level 18 manual office with four rural route carriers and two PTFs, three RMPOs, one with a small contract route and all three have about 100 boxholders.
To be perfectly honest, the three RMPOs could close and I doubt anyone except the PSEs would notice.
There isn't a whole heck of a lot going on in the APO either.
11994
PMR2PSE2PTFPerson was signed in when posted
06-25-2017
05:38 PM ET (US)
/m11992 Maybe. It's just the rumor mill, but I've heard (as has my PM from various sources) that the USPS may be subdividing the 18s based on revenue and clerk hours, either demoting some to "level 17" or promoting some to "level 19". If that happened I suspect the longer term goal might be to get the managers out of the smaller of those offices and make them RMPOs, perhaps with a lead clerk doing most of the day to day adminstrative duties (other than approving leave and issuing discipline, which lead clerks cannot do).

Again, speculation at this point, but my PM says they heard this in meetings at District, and I don't think my PM would be making this up (though the source could be misinformed). Point being, the larger 18s with multiple RMPOs can justify a manager spending 25 hours a week on admin stuff, but many smaller 18s can't.
Edited 06-25-2017 05:47 PM
11992
Marbare
06-25-2017
05:04 PM ET (US)
I think what's going to happen is that the level 18's and their RMPO's will be put under larger offices and just clerks will be in the 18's
11991
Flex NTFY
06-25-2017
03:03 PM ET (US)
M/11987 I have been a clerk for 31+ years. I do not do managements work even though at times the PM tries to get me to. I am just pointing out the fact that in this office besides doing the 15 hours of clerk work, the PM seems to have very little to do besides read emails and do a few reports.
11990
wisegalPerson was signed in when posted
06-25-2017
02:37 PM ET (US)
Seems like the level 18 offices are a mess. By doing away with level 15-16 offices and creating level 6, 4 and 2 rmpo's came a headache of new rules. Seems like most 18's are fairly slow. Is making them an rmpo the answer? Maybe. The Post Office was criticized by the Postal Regulatory Commission and the Government Accountability Office on the way Postplan was implemented. Now the Post Office has to petition these authoritative organizations with accurate information before they try to downgrade offices again. By what most of you are saying, it needs to be done. I got out and went to a big city. So happy that I did.
11989
Randy1Person was signed in when posted
06-25-2017
02:21 PM ET (US)
/m11988...
Why didn't you schedule your vacation during the "choice" timeframe?
Now you are at the mercy of incindental leave. If you don't have a local MOU. Check out the new offices without a Local MOU. It is in your favor for incidental leave.
11988
NTFTmess
06-25-2017
02:01 PM ET (US)
M/11983 The PTF in the other 18 was hired with the understanding that the other PTF gets the 30 plus hrs and she would not be guaranteed ANY hrs it was posted for 0 to 10 hrs. So they are not splitting hrs. there. And the 30 plus hrs include cleaning. Rumor is senior PTF is going to be made a NTFT flex there too (I'm a flex) so no different than my office. And m/11986 Every time I try to plan a vacation prime time or not and we try to find coverage the other offices say it's too far in advance to know if they can cover. Oh yes my union rep is going to hear about it for sure!
Edited 06-25-2017 02:02 PM
11987
Randy1Person was signed in when posted
06-25-2017
01:49 PM ET (US)
It amuses me that clerks feel they need to do managements work. Then complain they leave early, do nothing, text etc. etc.

Most of these clerks probably were never around when PostPlan was implemented in 2012. And who implemented it??? Management.

Now Management has declared WAR on clerks by proposing 16000 "CLERKs" to be excessed nationwide. Here in this area they are proposing 9 in the plant and removing the extra ptf in level 18 & 20's. Not one PM has been proposed to be cut.
Edited 06-25-2017 02:23 PM
11986
Marbare
06-25-2017
11:41 AM ET (US)
And there should have been sign up for prime time vacation back in beginning of year. Get with your union rep
11985
Marbare
06-25-2017
11:39 AM ET (US)
The PSE's in the RMPO's should not be doing management work. Ordering supplies is management work. Don't do it! And if a NFTI is doing TACS, did they get access or are they using PM log in. Only Lead clerks are supposed to be given access to TACS. And Lead clerks are Full time Regular.
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