And I'd be honored - in the true spirit of chaordic principles - to welcome Steve and Danny as our 'maintainers'.

I just hope they don't evolve into 'containers'.

Or even worse - the dreaded - 'sustainer'.

Maybe now - the humble Mr. Hammersley can take that spec, read it and spit out some more details for our web site.

- Marc

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hehe

The URI http://purl.org/threads has been confirmed as ours, with myself and Steve as maintainers.
At the moment, as a URL it will/should redirect to threadsml.org (doesn't seem to have gone through the system yet). Eventually I suppose it should resolve to the spec(s).



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Yes and thank you VERY MUCH for your work on said specs.

:-)

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Off topic: I've put this topic into QuickTopic Pro mode (sneak preview for you all). That's visible to participants in two ways: you can upload pictures, and there's a topic introduction at the top of the page. (I could customize the look too, but will defer that for now). I'm doing a beta soon, so you may soon see other QuickTopic forums with the QuickTopic Pro logo at the top.

If you'd like to participate in the beta, let me know at syost@quicktopic.com.

Excuse the thread interruption.

Hello folks, Ben Hammersley sent me over here.

I've posted a brief description of what I refer to as a "GypsyBlogger" application, and associated "Blogger Caravans" here http://www.erablog.net/blogs/dhdeans/

Note, the "trackbacks" link leads to further closely associated comments on other sites. At the AlwaysOn site, be sure to page down to the "member comments" section, and that's where I reference my dialogue with Ben.

If there's a good parallel with your ThreadsML project, then let me know. If not, please excuse this interuption.

Yes - there is some overlap - but also with our People's DNS efforts - as well.

Basically you've speced out a cool new tool.

We put that into the category of "go for it - dude!" We support 100%.
- Marc

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Edited by author 06-15-2003 02:25 PM
Howdy folks. Happy Father's Day.

Check this out:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0122611/outlines/Conversation.html

It's a WebOutliner doc - saved off as a read-only form - which maps out how WebOutliher would edit ThreadsML files. Re-entrant conversations.

There's also instructions in here - for adding your own input into this conversation. Sorry it's not ThreadsML compliant - yet. But you'll get the idea of how exciting this is.

In case anyone in RSS-land hadn't noticed, Sam Ruby's set up a Wiki to work on a conceptual model of a (web)log. Quite a mixed bag of luminaries have asserted their support. This may lead to a successor to RSS that everyone can agree on (working title is 'Pie' as in 'easy-as'), or it may just be an interesting exercise in analysis and group dynamics. Either way it's significant to the ThreadsML initiative - if something does come out of it, ThreadsML needs to be able to operate with it from day 1. The analysis will be worth watching as it certainly treads into ThreadSpace, we could learn here. I have plenty of personal reservations, but I've been reading Sam's blog long enough to trust his approach (smart guy too), and I think this is almost certainly a (rare) case of it being better to influence things from within.

Sam's trying to address one issue at a time on his blog (just started with the about/link/guid/URI stuff) :

http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/

The Wiki's at :

http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/

Particularly significant to ThreadsML is the 'Related' stuff - "An Entry exists in an environment of Web Pages, Weblogs, other Entries, Channels, Threads, etc. If we want to fully model Entry, Entry should know how it relates the environment." :

http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/Related

Cheers,
Danny.

Here here - these are good times for open standards.

My own personal needs revolve around getting a face or image associated with a channel into the spec - so aggregators can give a visual clue to folks - who's channel it is.

Images could also get formerly associated with posts as well - though this is more problematic. Mainly because we can standardize on 32x32 or 48x48 for identifier images - while content images need to be a wide range of sizes and shapes.....

Anyway back to the relationships between PIE and ThreadsML.

How 'bout one of you - go and post something about 'our' schema - and extend a collaborative effort to Sam and his efforts?

- Marc

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Sorry I haven't posted back on this yet. I'm taking a few days off in celebration of the release of QT Pro (http://www.quicktopic.com/gopro). I'll be back soon; Sam Ruby's work sounds interesting.

-Steve

I should also mention that the just-announced QuickThread (http://www.quicktopic.com/cgi-bin/quickthr...l=/em/H/mXbfHC2srY3) serves as a good example of what *could* be accomplished natively by email clients and *any* web board/mailing list if they both supported ThreadsML.

As it is, you forward your batch of emails to new@quicktopic.com and we automatically create a QuickTopic forum from them.

> Sorry I haven't posted back on this yet. I'm taking a few days
> off in celebration of the release of QT Pro
> (http://www.quicktopic.com/gopro). I'll be back soon;

Congratulations!

Cheers,
Danny.

PS. I recommend traveller's rehydration powders for hangovers ;-)