Matt Parker  01-20-2003
06:13 AM ET (US)
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Does anybody know what the consequences of slow weight training would be in regards to fast-twitch muscle fiber? I don't know much about it, but I remember as a shot-putter in high school it was important that we do our presses quickly so that we would put the shot equally quickly. Granted, moving fast and losing weight are two different goals. Anyway, does anybody know what I'm talking about (because I sure don't)?
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Mark Crane 01-19-2003
08:55 AM ET (US)
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Are those bowflex thingies useful?
It cracks me up that the two hugest threads in BB are about SUVs and the Atkins diet.
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tyler_durden 01-18-2003
11:46 PM ET (US)
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I don't know anything about the "slow weights" technique, and I didn't mean to dismiss it. From what I've heard so far, it seems to make sense. My original point was just focused on the Atkins reference, which seemed unjustified in the original post.
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Jon Rosen 01-18-2003
11:27 PM ET (US)
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I know something about this topic. I've been doing "Super Slow" strength training for about 4 months. It all started when I visited with some out-of-state friends that I had not seen for several years. They looked terrific, very fit and trim. I asked them what their "secret" was and they told me -- Super Slow.
Super Slow (which is basically the same system that is mentioned in the article) is strength training, not bodybuilding, but the results are similar. Each exercise is done very slowly through the entire range of motion until the muscle group is exhausted. Yes, a workout only lasts 30 minutes or less and yes, it is an extremely intense workout. Your legs will be quivering after a session.
After 4 months, I am much stronger and have far more endurance than when I started. Recently, I had a pretty hectic work schedule, traveling every week for about 6 weeks. The year before, I felt exhausted when I had a similar schedule. This year, I felt great; it didn't slow me down a bit.
If you compare this type of exercise to traditional workouts, I would say that in one or two 30 minute Super Slow workouts a week you get the same results as 3 "regular" one hour workouts, and maybe better results.
This isn't a fad. It's based on sound medical princples and it works. I've only been doing this for four months, so ask me how feel about it after a year. However, I'm very pleased with the results I've gotten so far.
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Jonathan Peterson 01-18-2003
07:17 PM ET (US)
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Anybody is going to feel great if they go from morbidly obese to somewhat overweight. I lost 40 lbs over 8 months about 2 years ago (am now 37, not the ideal age for losing weight) doing "body for life"; reasonable eating combined with weights and aerobics.
If you want to feel STRONG and FIT instead of just not sick, you have to DO something. I'm almost as aerobicaly fit as I was when I was 18 playing varsity soccer, only now I (almost) bench press my weight. Unlike everyone I know who's done Atkins, my wife and I have kept off pretty much all the weight we lost (I separated a shoulder a couple weeks before thanksgiving and gained 5 lbs over the holidays).
I don't understand the hype around slow weight training. Isn't that the way you're supposed to lift? If you ever try out a bowflex, you'll quickly realize how much you've relied on momentum to help you lift (especially if you've been using machines instead of free weights).
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tyler_durden 01-18-2003
04:57 PM ET (US)
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You probably do feel great now - atkins is a great diet if your goal is to quickly lose fat and physically develop. However, the long-term consequences to your body can be devestating. And by long-term, I don't mean "a few years", I mean a few decades.
If your goal is to maximize your quality life span, rather than simply lose weight, you are much better off with a very well-balanced low-calorie diet. Basically, everything you eat is damaging to your body in one way or another, so you want to eat as little as possible and make sure the things you do eat have the good stuff in them. Calorie Restricted Optimal Nutrition - CRON. "You could live forever if you never ate anything."
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ernie 01-18-2003
04:47 PM ET (US)
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cypher - what about the stinking and metallic taste in mouth?
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cypherpunks 01-18-2003
01:15 PM ET (US)
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Funny how people always want to badmouth things that work. What is it about humanity that we feel we must snipe, carp and generally tear down someone else who is having success? I've lost 70lbs on Atkins, and yes I researched the hell out of it. And you know what? It holds up, I feel better now at age twenty seven than I did at age seventeen (I've been 315lbs for all of my adult life), I don't get sick as often... but your milage will vary. And, I actually do what they recommend, visit a doctor every six months to ensure that there are no problems developing. So do your research, make your descision, but don't just shit on an idea without any experience, and also, try to keep in mind that bodies are highly variable.. what I thrive on could *kill* you. Edited 01-18-2003 01:17 PM
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tyler_durden 01-18-2003
12:56 PM ET (US)
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"gaining Atkins-like momentum"
You mean it's soon to be a huge fad among people looking for an easy way to get into shape with no effort who can't be bothered to do any research and check into the long-term consequences of it? Wow!
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Stephen Balbach 01-18-2003
12:41 PM ET (US)
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I read about this and in fact it does give extra gains of a small order however the pain and effort involved are so great that almost everyone who lifts this way ends up quiting and since lifting the normal way is hard enough as it is why take the chance you'll give up lifting entirely over some minor gains using a fringe method.
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