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Topic: New guestblogger: John C. Dvorak
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Jim TreacherPerson was signed in when posted  24
06-04-2003 06:11 PM ET (US)
Give him a break, guys. Baby steps...
Eli the BeardedPerson was signed in when posted  23
06-04-2003 01:52 PM ET (US)
Well John, you've got a reputation, but I haven't read any of
your columns in years. So I'm quite willing to ignore reputations.

But a slew of deleted posts? That makes me think you are unwisely
impulsive and then regretful later.
John C. DvorakPerson was signed in when posted  22
06-04-2003 03:28 AM ET (US)
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SakushaPerson was signed in when posted  21
06-03-2003 11:06 PM ET (US)
I don't see anyone in this thread who is identifiably "anti-blogger" or blogger, but it seems everyone agrees Dvorak is a troll. Ya know, maybe people don't give you crap because they're for or against any position you take, maybe they all think you are a twit in general. Here on BB, unlike your censored PCMag talkback forums, here we are free to tell you how we feel.
John C. DvorakPerson was signed in when posted  20
06-03-2003 10:12 PM ET (US)
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__xPerson was signed in when posted  19
06-03-2003 07:09 PM ET (US)
My post was mostly tongue in cheek. But I was surprised just a little. Especially after the recent FCC ruling relaxing media buying. I thought maybe this was the first indicator in the media buying orgy. :)

Good to hear that in the case of BB, the best things remain free.
Cory DoctorowPerson was signed in when posted  18
06-03-2003 06:42 PM ET (US)
Holy conspiracy theory, batman! Dvorak's the guestblogger 'cause we're interested in seeing what he'll blog. Last time I checked JCD was a columnist for PC Mag (which I don't read) and hence not in a position to offer article assignments to anyone. Aside from that there's the fact that writers usually write for money, not whuffie, which undermines the theory that BB (which doesn't pay nothin' for nothin') is offering JCD any kind of plum for his services here.
__xPerson was signed in when posted  17
06-03-2003 06:30 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-03-2003 06:32 PM
I enjoy my issues of PCMagazine and have enjoyed Dvoracks articles in the past. However, his appearance as guest blogger makes me confused. I come to Boingx2 for "off the beaten path" news and tolerate the lefty activist slant, because I believe the contributors to be good intelligent people who are inspired and on the edge.(even if they are wrong.)
What is next? Pop-up ads?
Is this a sell out? Were you bribed? (Not that that is a "bad thing" in today's economy.)
Will we have to register like the NYT or fill out questionnaires like the WA Post? Will PC Magazine start running stories by Doctorow, Frauenfelder and Jardin? I just finished reading the story about blogs by Dvorak, and now he is part of my daily breakfast? Feyah! Patoo!

If this is a test marketing, I am sorry but I want indie, slightly irreverent, and underground not to be mixed with my mainstream authors. (Not that I really read the guest bloggers that much . But that last robot gal was stout, I loved her stuff.)

This is like reading MAD magazine and the guest illustrator is Norman Rockwell. This is like Lucky Charms with bits of steak, I love the two SEPARATELY.
Jim TreacherPerson was signed in when posted  16
06-03-2003 05:42 PM ET (US)
Send in Mr. Tin!
John C. DvorakPerson was signed in when posted  15
06-03-2003 04:44 PM ET (US)
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David MercerPerson was signed in when posted  14
06-03-2003 04:21 AM ET (US)
Pournelle is still in denial that Chaos Manor is a blog.
Kevin MarksPerson was signed in when posted  13
06-03-2003 03:38 AM ET (US)
Mark /m6, I wrote a response too:
Deconstructing the Troll
By  John C. Mahler
 
Writing ignorant abuse to garner links, or trolling, looks to be the fastest-growing hobby on the Internet, and I've been studying the phenomenon to death. I intend to do my own troll, but I wanted to have a better understanding of what constitutes a really great troll.
 
The way I see it, there are two kinds of troll. Faux trolls can be set up by authors promoting books or newsletters, or they can be periodicals posing as trolls to get attention from bloggers. To me, the true troll is an ignorant recitation of prejudices, designed to undermine debate. I've deconstructed over 100 such trolls. This analysis led me to produce some formulae for a successful troll. Here are my Eight Rules for the Perfect Troll.
 
1. The right attitude. Make it clear that you spend the day, week, or month sitting on your rump reciting your prejudices instead of reading others' thoughts and perspectives. Or if you actually work, make it clear that you are writing the troll at work, because you hate thinking.
 
2. Community. Prove that you're a dedicated troller by citing at least five stereotypes. Repeat them ad hominem. Don't ever include examples or links, or anything at all to justify your absurd prejudices. If you're trying to jazz up your troll, number the points. Sentence teasers work well too. "The right attitude" or "Community" or "Rich language"
 
3. Humility. Troll weekly. If you miss a week, use the next weeksentire column to abuse profusely. Avoid explanation in detail or fascinating adventures. Make sure to rant about how dumb blogging is and why everyone should avoid it. Try not to show your fear though.
 
4. Rich language. Show that you're an insensate chained spirit by adding a lot of banality to your text. Cliched headlines and general abuse show people that you are an derivative writer not bound by the silly conventions of logic?those lousy rules that make you have to write something inspiring when you should be getting a check from PC Magazine just for joining cliches end to end!
 
5. Jargon. Pepper your text with big ugly ads from Intel, Dell, Micron, and other opportunites for getting spam. Make sure the only links on the page are paid for, and never give useful or relevant information, just contain buzzwords.
 
6. Controversy. Make sure your troll page has a clunky, registration-required comment system, and hound those you attack to use it. If they say anything cogent, censor their posts, make a public outcry and demand to be returned to the place of honor, or threaten to take their posts off your list. Go through this routine weekly with someone. Send them spam after they register
 
7. Humor. Give your troll a high tone name, perhaps even using a word you don't understand. "Deconstructing the Blog."
 
8. Specialize. If you want to trumpet the fact that you're a clueless fossil, include a photo of yourself in brown shirt with wire rimmed spectacles. No-one thinks of these as with connotaions of lying propogandists any more.
 
Finally, for all trollers, consider using a Romantic Composer's name as your own.
nougatmachinePerson was signed in when posted  12
06-03-2003 12:05 AM ET (US)
So, I suppose this means Mark and John have kissed and made up after Dvorak berated his appearance in the switch ads.
MothrafuggerPerson was signed in when posted  11
06-02-2003 11:39 PM ET (US)
Good god in the foothills, Dvorak? Wasn't Gary Coleman available?

(moment of deep soul-searching)

Okay, okay, it's just an unexpected choice, that's all. Beyond retro.

Seriously, though, if you're going for Dvorak, what about Jerry Pournelle?
Brian CarnellPerson was signed in when posted  10
06-02-2003 10:49 PM ET (US)
Hey, maybe we could get Dvorak to talk about how the extreme realism of blogging is almost certainly harmful to minors and likely to lead to mental illness.
Wiley WigginsPerson was signed in when posted  9
06-02-2003 10:26 PM ET (US)
This guestbar looks like it wants to wash a camel with cream cheese.
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