Yeah, the next thing you know, the United States will be putting Holocaust deniers on trial for nothing more than their views and passing laws stomping out pornography like another North American country does.

You know I agree with her about Patriot Act, etc., but the U.S. is still ahead of the curve on civil liberties compared to Canada and Europe. In fact a major problem is that we have lobbies in the U.S. who actively want the sort of surveillance and other powers that European states have.

Donut11's point is correct that conservative-libertarians were portrayed as nutball conspiracists for their opposition to Clinton-era activities, but it also seems that conservatives have been less skeptical of Bush's anti-liberty initiatives than they were of Clinton's.

Atwood's complaint about debt is too vague to make any sense out of. If she's talking about consumer debt, then she's off the mark IMO. It's interesting how the Left argument has went from "capitalism is wrong because only the elite have access to capital-generating instruments" to bitching and moaning about widespread debt.