Eli the Bearded 
05-22-2003
08:42 PM ET (US)
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I forgot to mention, that while cover art has a copyright it is generally considered fair-use for small images of the cover to be used to sell the disc. This is how Amazon, et al, get away with showing covers.
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jleader 
05-22-2003
07:37 PM ET (US)
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Thanks, Eli, that's what I thought, I couldn't remember the term "mechanical right".
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Eli the Bearded 
05-22-2003
04:07 PM ET (US)
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jleader (/m5): Artist/Album/Track title is not copyrightable, according to CDDB's lawyers. Lyrics and cover art are (note the narrow amount of info on any album at cddb.com). Once a song has been commercially released anyone else can make a cover of it (without even the permission of the artist or label) by machanical right. Doing it with the permission can get you favorable payment rates, without permission there is a set rate. I'm not sure if the rate is percentage or flat-fee based, or a combination.
US only info, if that wasn't obvious.
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gfm 
05-21-2003
08:19 PM ET (US)
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This sounded like a great idea until I heard it.
Once you let the cat out of the bag the RIAA knows the files are spoofs and the gigs' up.
Keep your next RIAA thwarting on the DL...
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jleader 
05-21-2003
07:37 PM ET (US)
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How about attaching real artist/album/track names to recordings of your own voice saying "What the **** do you think you're doing?"
Or perhaps a paraphrase, in case that phrase is copyrighted?
Or do the rules for covering someone else's lyrics just require paying a percentage of revenues?
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Eli the Bearded 
05-21-2003
06:27 PM ET (US)
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Thinking about it some, if the object is to explicitly make life difficult for RIAA spiders, then the nastiest way would probably be to take real artist/album/track names and use them for filenames and ID3 tags attached to random gibberish.
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Howard Wen 
05-21-2003
06:04 PM ET (US)
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The reverse solution -- to throw off an RIAA spider -- is to simply ZIP up every MP3 file you put online.
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Eli the Bearded 
05-21-2003
03:18 PM ET (US)
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How might the RIAA react to such a thing? * They could upgrade their spider so that it only recognises valid tracknames that are in-fact MP3s.
Ha, ha, ha. They can do that one after they solve the "is this a legit email address" problem. It is a bit easlier than the halting problem, though.
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mrm 
05-21-2003
03:04 PM ET (US)
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The question is how to get RIAA to find your site to spider it. The proposal would foil search engine spiders if generates a large numnber of nested links. If RIAA finds promising targets using something like the Google API you are invisible.
You would still need other web sites to point to your tarpit so the RIAA spider could find you. Nice idea, but it would take concerted effort from a larger community to make it work.
Maybe someone could come up with something like a trackback that we can include n blogs, except this would be a "tarback".
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