Fritz Blaw  12-12-2002
05:04 AM ET (US)
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I was mentioned as the guy who posters Austin , but I should say that we have a poster ban in Austin so all I do is what the "Keep Posted" business in Seattle does. I go to retail type locations and post on bulletin boards. Personally I don't mind band/art posters when they stay on Austins"drag" near the University of Texas campus but when they get spammed all over town they are an eyesore. I don't like yard signs on poles and in the ground for things other than garage sales and lost animals. We have sign rangers(local volunteers) who pull the marketing spam from busy intersections and poles all over town. A republican politico put a restraining order on a "sign-off" planned for before our last election. Political street spam is REALLY disgusting because the politicians created the poster ban in the first place.
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xiffix 08-13-2002
09:31 AM ET (US)
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So as long as there's a lot of trash on the ground, there's no point in dumping yours in the trashcan?
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Mothrafugger 08-10-2002
01:43 AM ET (US)
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I'm with Cory on this one. I have to publicize all sorts of indie, low-income stuff -- don't know if anyone's checked out advertising costs lately, but it's extremely expensive. The big corporate types can afford the ads; we can't. Those odds are permanently stacked against us. But we could probably afford a postering service. Well worth it, even for a group like ours that's founded on volunteers. I don't see how our posters would be any more like clutter than the constant stream of billboards, posters, electronic signs, neon, and print advertising that fill our lives. Edited 08-10-2002 01:44 AM
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Mark Slutsky 08-09-2002
07:47 PM ET (US)
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I'm totally pro-poster. And pro-graffiti too. Maybe--maybe I'd think different if corporate ads didn't dominate my field of view every way I look. But they're not going away. And even if they did, I'd be pro-poster, come to think of it. It's a cheap and effective way to promote indie stuff and I happen to prefer the look of a poster-covered pole to blankness.
I remember Reg Hartt from when I lived in Toronto. Once I saw a homeless guy tear down one of his posters--Hart was nearby and let out a horrific shriek. Scared the guy off.
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Stefan Jones 08-09-2002
05:49 PM ET (US)
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Certain kinds of postering seem acceptable to me.
A plywood sheet barrier in front of a construction site seems fair game. Totalled buildings.
But property that someone is proud of and is taking trouble to keep up . . . screw that.
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robnit 08-09-2002
04:59 PM ET (US)
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http://www.motorblade.com/
we have wonderfully postered construction sites in Austin. this guys seems to rule and maintain some semblance of order.
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Jerry Kindall 08-09-2002
02:50 PM ET (US)
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I'm with the majority on this: clutter is clutter. If people who put up posters would bother to take them down after the event they're advertising, I might have more respect, but what happens is you end up with trash (i.e. obsolete posters) stapled all over the place. Freedom of speech does not inherently justify defacing public (i.e. MY) property. If this is the best "non-mainstream" culture can do, I'm afraid I don't think much of it. Edited 08-09-2002 05:44 PM
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TimmyT 08-09-2002
02:41 PM ET (US)
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I'll side with Cory too. Postering is the best indicator of how lively a city's non-mainstream culture is. Postering bans kill indy culture. Edited 08-09-2002 02:42 PM
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Eli the Bearded 08-09-2002
02:20 PM ET (US)
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I'll side with Cory. I love to see the posters on what
would otherwise be blank plywood surrounding a construction
site, or on the plain concrete columns supporting the
elevated roads. I find it much less intrusive advertising
than say the renaming of ballparks after companies, or
the 'poptarts' setting on the toaster oven at work.
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Garfunkel 08-09-2002
01:34 PM ET (US)
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I have to agree with Charlie on this one - I rate them the same as spam/litter.
Nothing against the underground/noncom scene, but as you say, in most places they are a racket controlled by guys who aren't exactly in it for the greater good or freedom of speech. The major record labels/clubs use them round here and the whole place is covered in crap.
Ban em.
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Erik V. Olson 08-09-2002
01:26 PM ET (US)
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Got to go with Charlie. I'm tired of every flat surface being covered with ads -- indie or corporate. Worse yet, when *every* square inch of a given space is covered with tile of the same poster.
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Charlie Stross 08-09-2002
01:05 PM ET (US)
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Sorry, Cory, but we part company on this issue. Postering is spamming -- I'm in favour of banning *ALL* posters, including large commercial hoardings. Just say no to memetic pollution!
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