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| choconancy
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12-22-2004 07:06 PM ET (US)
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| tom
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12-22-2004 07:06 PM ET (US)
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| Allyson Roberts
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09-18-2002 12:31 PM ET (US)
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Yes, being ther with all senses is a KEY WORD. Somehow the senses are even greater in this online world :-)
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| Allyson Roberts
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09-18-2002 12:30 PM ET (US)
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Interetsing, Bill. I too feel that the degree of anonymity by not giving a photo or access to voice can remove all sorts of "..isms". However, Who are we fearing? Ourselves by being misinterpreted or others by imposing our own prejudices?
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| choconancy
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12-06-2001 01:40 PM ET (US)
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| Susan Earley
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10-19-2001 02:45 PM ET (US)
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Nancy, First, thanks for giving us the opportunity to comment on this, this is a great tool that I'm sure that I'll use more.
One comment is that I also wonder about other types of interactions that people have outside that particular genre. Have you ever spoken to them on the phone or been in a live chat with them or had a private conversation? Do you have information about the person that is not public that will effect your contributions to the conversations?
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| James Dobbins
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10-19-2001 10:28 AM ET (US)
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Mary, great idea to walk around a bit to think before answering. I can't walk around a block (I have a 58 acre forest in which I built my house, but I do the same thing walking among the trees.), but the idea of thinking about the response for a time is important. Especially consider reactions to your response. How will others react? Could they misinterpret what you mean? Are stereotypes creeping in? How would you feel if you got this response?
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10-18-2001 11:12 AM ET (US)
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Excellent points. Right now the article is part of my very loosey-goosey collection of article on online interaction at http://www.fullcirc.com/community/communitymanual.htm Primarily I think I'll be using it as a resource tho, for ongoing interaction groups when some members start to feel fragmented. Or as a way to surface some of these ideas for people who are learning about online faciltiation. The more I ask myself your question, the more I can see I'm not clear. That is worth tons. Thank you! More work to do!
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| Sandy Schuman
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10-18-2001 09:11 AM ET (US)
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Who is your intended audience? From your use of terminology (e.g., content-cnetric context," "multi-sensory context") it appears that you are aiming for a fairly sophisticated audience already familiar with online communiciation issues.
If this is so, I wonder if the advice that follows is helpful. Could experienced online communicators be expected to already know these things? Conversely, if your intended audience is the inexperienced online communicator, then I think your introductory paragraphs should be more simple and explanatory.
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| Bernie Slepkov
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10-18-2001 06:34 AM ET (US)
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Hi Nancy
You got the jump on me. I am currently in the processes of starting a real online community with Dianne Renton, the woman from our Voluntary Sector Initiative. So far as we see it, I may be writing articles to provoke an open membership into posting their comments on diverse issues of concern, and completing related surveys and polls.
QuickTopic's appearance is timely inspiration. Wish I knew about it when I initiated the C4C Initiative. Anyways, expect my appearance here in QuickTopic soon, as well as a more formal announcement at onelinefacilitation soon (I hope ;)
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| Bernie Slepkov
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10-18-2001 06:22 AM ET (US)
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As a writer with a thousand points to be made, that is a constant challenge to me.
Have I made my point? Does it flow with what has already been said, or about to be said? Is the point better made else where in the essay? Does it leave room for my readers to formulate their own thoughts, or provoke them into thinking?
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10-18-2001 12:37 AM ET (US)
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Reflection on the wonderful gift of everyone's comments.
Wow, this is amazing to me. I am not a "writer." I write to share an idea or pass along something. Having your collective help to both clarify, amplify and edit is an amazing and GENEROUS thing. THANK YOU!
(and keep em coming!)
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10-18-2001 12:35 AM ET (US)
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Mary, great suggestions (both content and editing. Dang, I need an editor!) Thank you.
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10-18-2001 12:35 AM ET (US)
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Good clarification. I've had people tell me everything from "a picture was the difference that made the difference" to "NO PICTURES." Good catch to qualify that.
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10-17-2001 11:18 PM ET (US)
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Another idea... sometimes I read threads I need to more fully attend to aloud in an attempt to capture the auditory learning bit of my brain. It does help me pick up on nuances that otherwise might escape me.
... and yet another, although this adds yet more time and space and may not be appropriate for this piece... I also take a walk around the block while considering a thread and my response to it. It seems to help, especially if the participants are getting heated with one another (not sure why).
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10-17-2001 11:13 PM ET (US)
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"Roll-your-own" here looks like an adjective, but I think you mean it as a verb. It's clever, at any rate. How 'bout "Roll your own" without the hyphens...???
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10-17-2001 11:11 PM ET (US)
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I like the introduction to the idea of this piece here and found myself engaged in thinking about it and wanting to read more.
Not crazy about the use of the word "Between" here... it appears to imply a usage in time here (although it could also be a spatial meaning). Perhaps something like "because of" instead... however, I do like the "spark fades" metaphor. Perhaps you can play with that a bit.
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| Bill Harris
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10-17-2001 09:41 PM ET (US)
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Hi, Nancy. I'm curious why you asked if we've seen their picture. I've worked with a quite competent person in a prior situation who said he'd rebel if he was asked to post his picture online. He found online to be one of the few spaces where people's ideas weren't judged by the looks of their faces.
His concern was that faces and shirts/ties/whatever tend to give away rank and role, and he was glad to simply be heard.
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10-17-2001 01:12 PM ET (US)
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Dang, it was you Eric. I think I have not had sufficient chocolate for the day. Edgar was also posting below. Mamma mia, has anyone seen my brain sitting around someplace? Please tell it to come home!
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| Eric Snyder
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10-17-2001 10:55 AM ET (US)
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Edgar????
At 09:31 AM 01/10/17 -0500, QT - choconancy wrote:
------------------------------------------ Eric Snyder; Eric@TCM.com President / CEO TCM.com, Inc; www.tcm.com ICQ 2700515; (613) 823-0244 ------------------------------------------- < replied-to message removed by QT >
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10-17-2001 10:31 AM ET (US)
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Oops, I meant Edgar. Too many "E's" before my morning tea!
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10-17-2001 09:55 AM ET (US)
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10-17-2001 04:37 AM ET (US)
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It is very easy to respond too quickly when using an email client to monitor a forum such as online facilitation. I find that the web interface helps me establish context more easily.
With Yahoo!Groups, there is an option on the web interface to view postings by thread instead of the default, date sort. Before responding, it is really useful to look over the entire thread to make sure that someone else hasn't already said EXACTLY what you are planning to say. Your advice "take your fingers... off the keyboard" is sage advice. It might help the article if you even provided a little example here.
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10-17-2001 04:25 AM ET (US)
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Hi Nancy: You have a little typo here.....
"Roll-you-own"... shld be "Roll-your-own"..
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10-17-2001 03:38 AM ET (US)
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in this section you are talking about reestablishing context
you should do this for your article as well. what is the relevance of async. online interaction? Why do you use it? What does it look like / How do you use it? Why is it better? What are the problems and than...your story.
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| gail testing
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10-16-2001 11:57 PM ET (US)
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This is great advice, Nancy.
Of course, a truely creative reader can put too much "script interpretation" into creating the movie in her or his head, and the not skilled author can write mannered or stiff prose which is not how he or she talks. But generally the idea of slowing down, avoiding speed-reading and listening for "voice" and personality is incredibly important.
Interesting group editing tool.
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10-16-2001 10:01 PM ET (US)
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How do you define online interaction.
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10-16-2001 09:59 PM ET (US)
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