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Eric Raymond on arming passengers

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IBLIS The Ultraviolet
01-19-2002
04:00 PM ET (US)
Didn't Archie Bunker advocate exactly this 30 years ago and come off like enough of a complete ass??

iblis }()+
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Dave Munger
09-13-2001
02:21 AM ET (US)
It seems odd to rely on one checkpoint for security, then leave the plane itself almost totally unsecured. At least some of the flight crew should be armed and trained in security procedures and the cockpit should be secure. The flight crew should have a rule that no matter what the threat to a passenger or member of the crew, control of the cockpit would not be given up to a highjacker.
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Reverend Gregory
09-12-2001
06:07 PM ET (US)
Why arm *anyone* on the plane? Why not just build the planes so there is no access to the cockpit from the rest of the plane?
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MC
09-12-2001
04:43 PM ET (US)
Apparently there is personal/luggage scanning technology that is exponentially better than the stuff being used. But I don't know if we will ever find a surefire technological solution for this.
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Allan J. Heim
09-12-2001
04:10 PM ET (US)
Actually, what I had in mind was giving the crew the option of carrying weapons, if they wished.

It'd be cheaper than armed guards, as El Al apparently use (http://www.msnbc.com/news/627524.asp). Certainly, some kind of secure cockpit structure would be a good idea.
Edited 09-12-2001 04:11 PM
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Cory Doctorow
09-12-2001
03:39 PM ET (US)
You said it.
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Mark FrauenfelderPerson was signed in when posted
09-12-2001
03:28 PM ET (US)
Two rules would stop most skyjackings:

1. No carry-on luggage.

2. Everyone has to fly naked.
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JohnR
09-12-2001
03:23 PM ET (US)
Arming the flight crew implies a lot of additional training that they aren't all cut out for. Your airfare would go up for this additional level of safety. You get an additional vocabulary like 'acceptable casualty levels' and stuff like that. Feasible, but it would take some getting used to, and some understanding on behalf of customers regarding why it is necessary. Even now, I'm guessing there are substantial numbers of people in airports who are aggravated and bitchy about personal delays rather than outraged at an act of aggression against America. It is sometimes hard to explain to this sort of individual why additional measures are necessary. Lawyers just eat this kind of stuff up.
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Allan J. Heim
09-12-2001
12:29 PM ET (US)
I think arming the flight crew would be appropriate.
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JohnR
09-12-2001
12:19 PM ET (US)
I think it's insane to arm passengers, but I don't see what would be so bad about really invigorating the sky-marshal program.
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