Hello everyone

I would like to welcome you all to the new board.

May it help bring understanding, compassion, tolerance and love - as together, we seek the real truth about sai baba.

A note to everyone.

The old message board is still up, but no longer accepting new posts.
( http://www.quicktopic.com/7/H/uVTiRX8McBie )

People are still able to see some past posts on that board if they wish, by looking at the previous pages.

However, all the previous posts from this board from its inception to August 19th
2001 will be posted for viewing purposes up on the website:
http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/discussion.htm

If you should ever have any difficulty accessing this new message board or it
fails in any way, requiring a new board to be established - please go to website:
http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/discussion.htm
where it will list a new topic board url.

To the spammer who is posting the long sb propaganda discourses.

I just thought you would like to know that this new board is set up differently.
It now takes less than a second for me to delete the lot.

It wasn't difficult before, but now it's just sooooooooooo easy. :)- :)- :)-

Edited by author 08-19-2001 09:10 AM
Welcome to the board, Kyra, and thanks for posting the first message! Anthony, I got to this board from Sunrise (main links page), so that link is working now. Let's hope that this board carries through with the hope and encouragement expressed by both of you.

Hello Folks
Good to see you all here in the new board.Anthony nice to see some spammers kicked out,boy are they dense to keep coming and posting here.What is amazing is Parthi Baba is such a cunning,crafty,lecherous ole man who knows very well to take care of himself as he clearly proved in june 1993,yet these moronic devotees of Parthi Baba take it upon themselves to defend his actions.

About the anti-christ posting,i think Hari very nicely explained it in one his posts as well as about Jesus Christ.Any idea whats happened to him?There is always a lull before a storm,i hope some nice expose comes soon.

Kyra
Thanks for the good wishes.

Suresh
Hari is never far away.

To everyone,
If you have any helpful stories or tips on how you recovered after leaving sb,it would be great if you could send these posts to the sunrise website. It would really help other devotees who are going through the trauma of leaving. Even small things can help a lot.

Edited by author 08-19-2001 02:14 PM
I'd like to see more discussion on Aura's post from the old board (#1618). Anthony replied to this post in #1619, but the discussion is far from finished. Here is Auru's post:
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Anthony, you said:"I thought I was aware of the scale of anguish they must go through, but I see it is greater than I thought. I had thought most of the difficulty would be in trying to get out of his energy field. I knew people would also have to contend with the betrayal, feeling stupid, leaving a supportive group with a common bond, losing many friends, losing the physical face of God, the fear that maybe you really are leaving God and being damned forever, and so on."
How does one even begin to get out of his energy field after 10, 15 0r 20 years? It's frightening, the task ahead!Where does one even begin, after placing ones trust entirely on one person in this entire world and thinking of him as God? It is scary, to say the least.
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Here is part of Anthony's reply:
"Possibly the first thing is to realise is the action of leaving is not bad in any way. People are leaving a physical identity and going straight to God/Source/Creator instead.

A true God would naturally always be in agreement with going direct to Source/God/Creator. Even if God happened to be incarnated, from 'his' point of view there would be no difference whatsoever is making our divine connection in a straight line to the source of creation- instead of via an incarnated 'source of creation.'

We need to take our power back and take responsibility for our own lives -from the perspective of being part of the Creator consciousness and make a pure universal connection again to the divine source of the universe - however each person sees that.

Early on, while the whole thing is being processed and people are trying to get out of his energy, I think it is a good idea to realise there is an energy link to him via the use of his name, ash, books and picture.

Personally, I would suggest getting rid of the lot and not to just put it in a drawer. And don't use his name. Find another name, preferably not giving him any reverence or power, if you have to discuss him. And while discussing him, stay detached and don't make any connection to him.

This is not for anyone to have fear of him, for truly he is nothing - unless he can incite the fear of the wrath of God into you. Light is senior to everything. With a pure intention of light in your heart, he is as an ant underfoot. Totally powerless. NOTHING IS STRONGER THAN LIGHT and in that light, we are invincible."
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Edited by author 08-19-2001 02:23 PM
Ref #19
It isn't difficult at all to see sb as an ant underfoot. The problem is that many of us seem to be out of touch with our hearts and intuition. I keep asking myself, "How could I have been deluded for so long? My prayer was always, "Thy Will Be Done." (meaning God, not sb) Was following the false god somehow the will of God?? I simply hit a blank wall here.

It's easy to say, "Find God within," but not so easy to do.

Here's the old board address, if anyone wants to read all of Anthony's reply to Aura or other comments on this topic.
http://www.quicktopic.com/7/H/uVTiRX8McBie

The ideal auric field of course is one of light. It is only when light is splintered that we get a spectrum of colors. Take anger for instance. We say, “He sees red,” when someone is angry. What actually happens is that the frequency of the red color is produced by the emotion of anger. In the auric field, when someone is angry, if it is a temporary outburst of anger, there is a spurt of red. Now take the dress of Parthi Baba,made out of SILK,RED in color.Totally ANger personified.His very in born attitude is ANGER.Most sanyasis wear cotton material,orange in color.But then we now know Parthi Baba is no sanyasi but is acting like one,and a pretend Avatar.

Edited by author 08-19-2001 02:47 PM
Btw about 2 months ago I read a book by Miss Helena Klitsie "Liefde's Logica/The Logic of Love" who travelled around extensively in India and visited many gurus, lamas and so forth. She wrote that she met a German young man who was sexually approached by SSB.

She writes a lot more of interesting stories about SSB. Mixed positive and negative. Also very interesting thoughts about religion and philosophy in general.

ISBN 90-417-0241-5 for people who can read Dutch.
The book is sold in the Netherlands' best known supermarket.

I think that more publicity is unnecessary here.

Dear Terrie
We say in our culture,you must experiance sweet & sour in life,to realise how noble your birth is.This chance to be born as a human being comes to one after long process of being born as various species.I think in my opinion its perfectly justified to have followed Parthi Baba otherwise we would not have known the "True Worth" of the true god.Something similar to,unless the Kauravas were not there how would the Pandavas shown their superior goodness.Unless evil is present then only GOOD can prevail over it and vanquish it.Therefore Parthi Baba is required in the scheme of life for GOOD SUPERIOR forces to vanquish him.We have passed the test.