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Dave Kirtley  5795
11-05-2009 11:06 PM ET (US)
Which is worse. The injured postal employee who hides their legitimately FECA entitled, workplace injury, who goes to their FEHB Plan doctor for treatment, which the premium costs are raised for all federal employees who particiapate in the federal insurance plans. The federal government, post office, et al., ends up getting a free ride at the expense of the "honest" FECA entitlees who DON'T file FECA claims. ( All federal employees! )
We work around these people everyday at the post office. Many of them suffer from chronic pain and have to take medication simply to tolerate their postal jobs. These people often engage in self-righteous, "holier-than -thou" conversations which denegrate and demonstrate extreme prejudice to legitimately injured fellow employees who exercise their FECA entitlement just as any other employee would use their sick or annual leave. ( I retired with a ZERO sickleave balance and never went to work with anything contagious so I could make you, your kids, and the rest of the world sick, just because I was "afraid!" )
For the people who are fortunate enough to have avoided such scenarios: I hope you never become injuured and have to make a choice between "filing a FECA claim" or "not filing."
It is always easier to talk about something you know nothing about but it is always another story when you have experienced that which you so freely become an expert about.
Filing a FECA claims is difficult under the best of circumstances. Good doctors are somewhat impossible to find ( or even keep ), paper trails wear out relationships faster than anything with doctors who will see a patient "conditionally."
The myths and rumors surrounding FECA claimants are largely false, with many exceptions. I never worried because I had nothing to hide and still don't. I've have always personally felt the ones who were concerned may very well have provided someone with reason to question their honesty or whatever. I gave 8 hours of work for 8 hours of pay and at least worked harder than the worst employee, so I could live with my contributions to my employment.
I have a personal problem with hippocrits and wannabees. Nevertheless, I am more focused and personally concerned with more employees exercising their legitimate FECA entitlement combined with their: "legitimately, causally-related, workplace injury."
I will allow the cannibals to eat each other over their self-righteous opinion on things that do not directly affect them. They are going to run their mouths anyway. Let them, but don't waste your time on their empty , mean spirited, soulless observations. Let them fight the mirrors.
More employees are legitimately injured than most people ever stop to consider.
Would you give up the days off it took you 6 or more years to get and the duties you are now bid to, because you filed a FECA claim? Most employees don't. They keep working the very job that hurt them and they get worse, often much worse, then they file a FECA claim as a last resort to protect their livelihood, since in very, very many instances. I am personally familiar with after retiring as a 28 year Mailhandler, these very people can no longer pass an employment physical even to greet people at the doors of a Walmart and they cannot even handle phone calls consistently enough to warrant anyone to hire them.
I truly and honestly hope you never speak from personal experience because it will provide you with an honesty you will never know otherwise.

Respectfully,

Dave Kirtley
6 Active FECA Claims ( all degenerative and slowly pushing me toward a wheelchair )
Former "dumb-ass" Safety Captain, Union Steward, EEO/Advisory Committee MH REP/ 55 Adopted Employee Suggestions/Good Old Boy/Mr. Employee Involvement/Worn Out, Brokedown/ Honest/FECA Claimant/ who still cares about helping other people everyday. H.O.P.E.

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scrappy  5794
11-05-2009 10:16 PM ET (US)
to /m5792 - that person is an undercover postal inspector/oig. Beware!
Snowed  5793
11-05-2009 04:58 PM ET (US)
must know someone higher up.
unfairness  5792
11-05-2009 09:39 AM ET (US)
We have a person who never works. Was hired and worked a few weeks and then became light duty but only came in a few times a week and now is never there and always on the schedule as on leave. Yet, I (A career employee for decades) even call in because I am really sick very rarely and get a third degree and want my dr. excuse. How does that person get away with it?
old clerk  5791
11-05-2009 09:32 AM ET (US)
Most people that I knew that got disability retirement had to work on it for years. You have to be VERY patient. Once in awhile, but not very often, one will go right through and be approved. But just because a supervisor is giving someone a hard time is hardly a reason to be approved for disability retirement, but I don't blame them for trying. Good luck on that.
Tia  5790
11-05-2009 01:35 AM ET (US)
Getting disability retirement is not easy. This lady on our job applied for it. She has to prove that she can not do her job. Doctor report after report. She was hit by a forklift and was injured. Not severely hurt, but none the less hurt. The only reason she is trying to get this is because she does not have enough years or the age to retire and the dogs, um I mean supervisors are giving her a hard time. Read any of the forums on disability retirement and see the headache it can be. I wish the light/limited duty the best of luck. It will only get worse with these clowns in charge.
Snowed  5789
11-04-2009 10:00 PM ET (US)
gonzo-
Yes they are looking to thin the workforce too but if IOD receive OWCP or disability retirement the PO still pays.
BUBBA  5788
11-04-2009 09:41 PM ET (US)


yes snowed you are correct. some people have mri proof and the injuries are really there.
gonzo  5787
11-04-2009 09:15 PM ET (US)
point of sending IOD home is PO don't pay them anymore and there's another job to be abolished.
Snowed  5786
11-04-2009 08:48 PM ET (US)
How is it good management to send an IOD home to get paid for doing nothing when you can get some productive work out of him?
Snowed  5785
11-04-2009 08:38 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-04-2009 08:45 PM
Bubba, I believe you are right. It's not a "miracle," but a decision to make the best of it.

litedude-
What an unhappy soul you are. If you're not already you aught to be management, you'd fit right in.
Holy cow  5784
11-04-2009 08:34 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-04-2009 08:34 PM
What do you mean /m5781, somebody stared at you in church for sitting in their seat? At my church, the old farts will come and tell you to get up and move. I guess that's why we don't get a lot of return visits.
BUBBA  5783
11-04-2009 08:30 PM ET (US)

 some of the lite duty people dont experience a miracle. they are trying to find a way to continue to gain their much earned retirement. the mail has changed over the years. gone are the days of mail coming in from floor to ceiling. now its on rolling stock or pallets. or working a moving belt. no one who actually has an injury loses it they just endure the pain so they can feed their family.
litedude  5782
11-04-2009 08:04 PM ET (US)
to "WORK"- /m5780 - did you get pregnant while "on-the-job?" If you did, then mgmt should have had to kiss your ass to accomodate your limitations! Got pregnant "off-the-job?" Then you just joined the "lite/limited whiners that piss most of us off all day." Based on your attitude, you don't deserve to work a light-duty job for your actions "off-the-clock!" How does it feel, woman?
Snowed  5781
11-04-2009 07:38 PM ET (US)
I guess everyone's got their "stories." People acting like asses are everywhere. I remember when I went to a particular church for the first time and sat in someone's pew. You wouldn't think a "Christian" could give another the evil stare like that.
work  5780
11-04-2009 06:48 PM ET (US)
We all have stories of this stuff. People who are truly injured @ work get sloffed in w/ the fakers, and we know who they are. People who got hurt on their OWN TIME who think they're owed some special duty assignment for the next 20 yrs.

When I was pregnant, I worked the SPBS: I worked in a 3-way on the back of the machine, and one other clerk agreed to sweep for me & the 3rd clerk agreed so for 3 wks they did a 30min swap instead of the usual hour key/30min sweep. All was fine, until some putz on the other side (who did a 15 sweep/30key) complained that I wasn't doing my job & he wanted to key all night. So @ 5mths, I went 'lite' & sat in manual all day with the career lite duty folk who spent more time whining about the pregnant chick getting their CHAIR than they did sorting mail. My fave was the freak who somehow got lite duty for 'asthma', and that f*er sat next to me every night & coughed in my direction every chance he got because I took the end case that was HIS SEAT for 5 yrs & just because I started 2hrs before him, I should give him that seat.

THOSE are the lite/limiteds/whiners that piss most of us off each day.
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