Brit: 3 1/2 hours? Try 6 1/2 going on 7. Plus an extra hour on another route if you like the overtime. You guys look like you're out for a stroll. I kept looking for the baby carriage. Come to America, brother but look elsewhere for work.

Edited by author 02-09-2010 11:48 AM
Hi all 8-)
  Just stumbled across your forum as i am a Postman in the UK who is looking at relocating to the U.S with my wife this summer and wondered what the situation with postal is there ... and it seems .. well .. same BS as we are being put through at moment , have been in the job 20 years and last 4 years have seen the service downward spiral with piss poor morale amongst carriers and indoor staff and bullying managers . Here is a link with a video you can watch ..you are not alone brothers 8-/

http://www.harrowcwu.org/portal/2009/12/15...liver-wont-deliver/

m32205 My idea has always been to make the route I'm on a good route.

It's all too typical postal B.S. -- Senior carriers won't break so the powers in charge try and make it even more difficult for them (now it's route adjustments ). What goes around comes around. Hang together or you will surely hang separately.

Dirty Dan 11 year PTF here! Had 2 routes abolixhed and two guys shoved in front of me from other offices. You're complaining about having a route at all? Please!!! Consider your self very lucky. Me and 3 other long term PTF's 9+ years, are still getting screwed used and abused.

Dirty Dan, When I first started, back in the dark ages, seniority actually meant something. By the time I retired I felt that the longer I was there the worse I was treated. Just the way it goes sometimes. That's OK, they're paying me for it now!

Sorry Hoss, maybe that came out kind of mean sounding on my part. All I'm saying is that for those of you who like myself, who only have a few years in, you may get lucky like I did and get a really great route. Seniority isn't as important as it used to be I guess. In my office of about 65 routes, being 1 of the bottom juniors, I thought it would take me 10 or so years at least to get an even halfway decent route here. To those like myself, don't give up hope, a nice route can be easier had then you may think. And I never said I earned this route.

Dirty Dan---you haven't earned an easy route!
The old timers that have the nicer routes started with the crappy routes and gradually bid on better routes as their seniority increased.
They EARNED the better routes.

Just remember--if they took that nice route away from the older carrier this time---next route adjustment they can take away the same thing from you!
We'll see if you are VERY VERY HAPPY next time.....

So far I have been VERY VERY happy with the new route adjustment process. I went from having 1 of the worst routes to 1 of the best in the office. My old route was about 9 miles of walking, up some really steep hills in a really bad part of town. My new route is all out the window in a really nice upper class neighborhood. There were times where I actually feared for my life on my old route. I thought it would take me years to get such a nice route. Just goes to show that there is hope for us young un's out there in not having to wait years to get a nice route. Thanks to this new process that is.

Thanks to both of you for your help

Edited by author 02-07-2010 11:28 AM
/m32200 Sorry, under this new process, the route can be changed 99.9% and nothing has to go up for bid. The 50% rule was nixed in arbitration at least 5 years ago.

Unless you got something otherwise in your local MOU, so long as they leave one stop from your old route, it's still 'yours'.

Hi everyone, I have a question and i'm hoping someone knows the answer to it. The office is going through route cuts and add ons. They're taking 33% of my stops off my rte. They are giving me some other stops from another rte. This is not the rte I bidded on. Are they allowed to take 33% of my rte away. There is nothing in our local rule book that saids they can't. Please help Thanks

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Site about Management bullying, ect, check it out...

Edited by author 02-06-2010 09:29 PM
egark. That's because the NY prisoners acted better, did what they were told, and did not expecrt OT for doing it.