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Tom Gewecke
11-18-2013
07:15 AM ET (US)
On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:25 AM, QT - BisharatNet wrote:

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> Thanks Tom, for the clarification. Pardon my ignorance (I'm the
> lone holdout in my immediate family who hasn't gone over to
> iPhone, iPad & Mac), but does that mean it's basically QWERTY
> (etc.) or some app? How does/did Apple add keyboards say for
> French or Arabic? Apps do a lot but if you're removed by a
> copy/paste step from whatever you're working on.

It's an app, users cannot add keyboards or fonts to iOS devices, or download any apps not in the Apple app store. The "closed" nature of the iOS system is one of its fundamental features since 2007.
Apple has gradually increased the language converge of installed keyboards over the years, but there is no way to predict how quickly they will respond to requests for new ones. The current set is listed in the tech specs
http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/specs/

I agree the touchscreen keyboard opens whole new vistas in terms of multilingual input. However the layouts tend to be truncated because of the limited space available and in iOS you have to hit a modifier key to see numbers for example.
At least recently the font side of iOS has been opened up a little (but that's not an issue for Hausa I think):
http://m10lmac.blogspot.com/2013/11/adding...to-ios-devices.html
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
05:25 AM ET (US)
Thanks Tom, for the clarification. Pardon my ignorance (I'm the lone holdout in my immediate family who hasn't gone over to iPhone, iPad & Mac), but does that mean it's basically QWERTY (etc.) or some app? How does/did Apple add keyboards say for French or Arabic? Apps do a lot but if you're removed by a copy/paste step from whatever you're working on, that's still kind of second class.

I'm not as enthusiastic about touchscreens as some are (prefer them as an optional input method), but it would seem that one of their advantages is obviating a lot of the keyboard layout limits of the physical keyboard. I.e., call up anything from DVORAK to a Konyin layout to whatever, to conform to language orthography needs & user preference.

I think that's what the Nuance Swype concept is aiming at, though I don't currently use a system compatible with that either.

I'll repost the link to the Hausa typing app you mention (QT requires HTML markup to get the links "live"). It certainly looks like it would get the job done, which is the first consideration:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hausa-keyboard/id670021926?mt=8

Don
Edited 11-18-2013 05:31 AM
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Tom Gewecke
11-15-2013
10:33 AM ET (US)
On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:57 AM, QT - BisharatNet wrote:

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> Has anyone tried creating a Hausa keyboard for touchscreen? Does
> one exist on iPads/iPhone

You can't really add keyboards to iOS devices, but there are a couple of keyboard apps for typing Hausa in the app store that let you compose emails or other text for use via copy/paste, etc.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hausa-keyboard/id670021926?mt=8
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
11-15-2013
09:57 AM ET (US)
Has anyone tried creating a Hausa keyboard for touchscreen? Does one exist on iPads/iPhone, Android or other? I heard indirectly of someone suggesting development of Nuance Swype smart touchscreen keyboard for Hausa.

Nuance is the same company that has the Dragon Naturally Speaking voice recognition/speech-to-text program. Neither with that nor with any other of their products am I aware of any attention to African languages (in which they would not be unique). References on the Swype fyi:
Don Osborn
Edited 11-15-2013 09:58 AM
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
08-31-2013
01:59 PM ET (US)
Took a quick look at some of the Hausa phrases the Google rating site generated, and one impression was that use of the hooked consonants in Hausa Boko orthography was inconsistent. Will leave it to others to give a more thorough evaluation of that aspect.

The question on orthography had me going back to take a quick look at the websites of the five major international radio organizations that have Hausa services: BBC (UK), CRI (China), RDW (Germany), RFI (France), and VOA (US). Six years ago (see /m107 ) it seemed that all five used basic Latin/ASCII rather than the complete Boko alphabet. Now it appears that RDW is Boko, VOA inconsistent, and the other three are still limited to the ASCII character set. Some progress, but if Google Translate is pulling text off of these sites to add to its data, then the orthography of what it presents would inevitably be inconsistent.

Don
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
08-30-2013
11:12 AM ET (US)
Google Africa, along with Google Translate, "a free automatic language translation service by Google," are requesting help in evaluating translations with the aim of providing free online translation for Hausa. See: http://goo.gl/F0QL8N (which points to https://translate.google.com/about/intl/en...olunteer/hausa.html ).

It would be of interest to know what people think of the process.

Hausa is one of 5 African languages (also including Igbo, Yoruba, Somali, and Zulu) that are currently being worked on. For background, see http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/...e-african-languages

Don
Edited 08-30-2013 12:16 PM
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
08-30-2013
10:57 AM ET (US)
Dear subscribers, Due mainly to spam, I have had to close some other QT message boards set up for discussion of technical support for specific African languages. Happily, Hausa charsets and keyboards has not had the same level of problem, but it has not been used as much as it was several years ago.

If you think it is worth continuing this forum, I will not close it. (If I do close it, that just means that there will be no new messages allowed, but the forum will still be online and could technically still be opened again.)

This was the first of the language-specific QuickTopic boards set up (12 years ago - see /m1 ), and it really helped inspire not only a series of similar boards, but also the "A12n-collaboration" list that treated a number of issues about fonts and keyboards for African languages. By now, many of the technical challenges that prompted the creation of this forum have given way to a range of other challenges and opportunities, and the media we use for discussions have also changed.

Anyway, please let us know your opinions about whether this forum still has utility for what you are doing with Hausa on computers and the internet.

Sannu da aiki.

Don Osborn, PhD
Bisharat (A language, technology and development initiative)
http://www.bisharat.net/
Edited 08-30-2013 10:58 AM
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RABIU MUHAMMAD (ABU HIDAYA)
10-22-2011
02:57 PM ET (US)
I don't Know How To Use, That key Board,Adabin Hausa.
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
10-03-2009
11:43 AM ET (US)
The ANLoc* locales project just announced that the Hausa locale for Nigeria is complete. Hausa for Niger is apparently already complete. See http://www.it46.se/afrigen/statistics.php (which has summaries of work on many languages). This project is being coordinated by Martin Benjamin.

Locales are files of data for computers and software to adapt presentations for different language preferences. They are generally defined by language and country.

Don Osborn
Bisharat.net

* http://www.africanlocalisation.net/
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
10-03-2009
03:30 AM ET (US)
Siebrand Mazeland is asking for help translating Mediawiki* into Hausa. Mediawiki is the software used for Wikipedia, as well as being available for free to anyone wanting to set up a wiki on a website. Having it available in Hausa (as well as other African languages) would help make it more useful to Hausaphones (etc.).

See http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Siebrand where you can add a message indicating your interest in helping. You can also post here.

Don Osborn
Bisharat.net

* http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
08-17-2009
08:57 AM ET (US)
For background to /m130 re last year's proposal to close Hausa Wikipedia, see http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/afrophonewikis/message/454
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
08-17-2009
08:49 AM ET (US)
FYI from the Hausa Online blog at http://hausaonline.wordpress.com/2009/07/2...kipedia-is-growing/ :

Hausa Wikipedia is growing

Posted by hausaonline on Wednesday, July 22, 2009

About a year ago, I warned in a blog post that Hausa Wikipedia [ http://ha.wikipedia.org/ ] could soon be closed, due to lack of activity. I don’t know whether it was because of this post or due to some other factors, but since then, Hausa wikipedia is growing fast. Have a look, and maybe you feel like contributing something yourself or editing (please, don’t vandalize!) the articles that have been written.

If you would like to contribute something, but don’t know how this works, here are some guidelines [see the blog posting for links]:
* Contributing to Wikipedia
* Policies and guidelines
* Tutorial

You could start with some topic you are familiar with or translate an article from another language.

A good point to start from could be some online news articles. Some old Hausa school books like "Ikon Allah" would be good source material, too. But make sure you do not just copy what is written there, in order to avoid copyright issues.
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
07-24-2009
07:56 PM ET (US)
I received a request for Unicode text of African languages written in Latin script with extended characters. The purpose is testing some new fonts. Does anyone have access to such digital text of Hausa?

Don Osborn
Bisharat.net
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
06-12-2009
11:22 AM ET (US)
Excerpt from a message posted by Manuela Noske on A12n-collaboration:

FYI that Microsoft Corporation has released the Windows Vista Language Interface Packs for Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba on June 2nd. The LIPs are available at the locations below. They are free downloads that install on any PC that runs Windows Vista with either SP1 or SP2.

Hausa Details Page and .mlc: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...7f5b&displaylang=ha

http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/A.../LIP_ha-Latn-NG.mlc

...


(See also /m126 on this message board.)
Edited 06-12-2009 11:31 AM
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BisharatNetPerson was signed in when posted
05-18-2009
10:27 PM ET (US)
The Google web search engine now has a Hausa interface. See http://www.google.com/intl/ha/ . It appears to be in an ASCIIfied version of the Boko orthography.

(Not sure if this is related to the effort mentioned in /m111 )
Edited 05-18-2009 10:28 PM
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