August 19th, 2001

Welcome to the 'sai baba - anti christ'? board.

This board has now changed to a new Quick Topic board of the
same title. This has been done for easier administrative purposes.

The new url is
http://www.quicktopic.com/8/H/qYarJBpGLW7G6

Although no further posts will be accepted on this board, it will continue to be shown for some time - so if you lose the new board url, please return here to note it again.

If you should ever have any difficulty accessing the new message board or it fails in any way, please go to website
http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/discussion.htm where it will list a new topic board url.

All the previous posts from this board from its inception to August 19th 2001 will be posted for viewing purposes up on the website: http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/discussion.htm

For those people who would like to know how other ex-devotees have coped with the leaving process, please go to website: http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/index.htm and section entitled 'Words of Hope for Ex-Devotees'

We look forward to hearing from you on the new board.

Topic adminstrator



A LIST OF WEBSITES dedicated to the expose of the real truth about sai baba.

http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/index.htm

http://www.geocities.com/p_holbach

http://www.sathyasaivictims.com

http://turn.to/the_findings

http://www.salon.com/people/feature/2001/07/25/baba/index.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ex-cult-support

http://www.exbaba.nl

http://www.vancouversun.com/newsite/news/010227/5007932.html

http://www.delphi.com/fuzzyhair

http://psg.com/%7Eted/bcskeptics/sbmir/db-book.html

http://www.stelling.nl/simpos/shree_sai_baba.htm

http://vclass.mtsac.edu:940/dlane/saidebates.htm

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/religion/sai.htm

http://www.sokaren.se/INDEX135.HTML

http://www.ascension2000.com/baba1.htm

http://www.alerte-sai.com/ (French)

http://www.sekty.dominikanie.pl/ Polish

http://www.geocities.com/descubrimientosSB/ Spanish

http://www.multimania.com/tussier/saibaba.htm French

http://home.hetnet.nl/%7Eex-baba/ Netherlands

http://geocities.com/the_sai_critic
Go to 'Summary of The Findings' and one can on the bottom of that page download The Findings version March 24, 2000.

http://www.sekty.net/Data/Materialy/Baba/ebabamenu.php

Edited by author 08-18-2001 04:35 PM
Anne's Rules For Recovery For Ex Ardent Devotees

Anne came from a Christian cult and would be glad to correspond with anyone who wants to share. The 'wave thing' that Anne writes about is a form of the emotional pain than can be felt physically.
Kind regards, Andries K.D.


Anne:

This is NOT the way I did my recovery, it is more the way I WISH I'd done it... but I did catch on eventually. If I had it to do over I would:

 1) Give myself plenty of time & space to grieve my losses. When you leave a cult you leave behind something that was a huge part of you daily life, thoughts, emotions and actions. Not to mention all of the relationships that are suddenly severed. When all that is gone, there is an immense void. Don't be quick to try to stuff something else into it. Don't censor your own feelings. Grief hurts, but it heals, and it diminishes over time.

2) Take the time to realign my beliefs. This works better when the grief is not so acute. Bring everything you were taught out into the light and examine it. A journal comes in handy. Look at every so-called truth you accepted in the cult, item by item. Ask: Do I still believe this? Why or why not? What is wrong with this belief? How has holding this belief affected my life, and does it still have power over me? Is there some real truth that this belief distorts? Where can I go for more information on this issue so I can decide for myself?

3) Consciously place the cult experience into the context of my life. What inner needs (if any) drew me to the group? Is it part of a larger pattern in my life that needs to be changed? (Note this is not true of everyone who has been in a cult, but for me it definitely was.) What did I learn from this experience? What good things have come out of it? How will I use what I've learned?

4) Not allow my heart to get hardened; for then the cult truly does win! Learn to forgive, and that forgiveness and acceptance are not the same thing.

I don't know if any of this will help with the wave thing. That may just be the way you as an individual experience grief. Be very patient with yourself -- as others have said, it takes much time. 20 years later I still deal with it from time to time. Good has definitely come from it, as I am able to help some others now.

Love, Anne
Anne Briggs <ABriggs@IOL21.com>