Edited by author 08-17-2001 04:52 AM
Dear All,
I found this interesting.

"The Betrayal Scenario - When a betrayal is taking place in your environment, part of you shuts down to process the dishonesty. As a result of closing down in denial, your ability to love and trust is diminished. Betrayal takes away your innocence, that part of you that trusts life. ...."


Mrs Nori Muster experienced more or less the same in ISKCON/Hare Krishna.

http://www.surrealist.org/norimuster/cultsurvivor.html

This may be interesting too.
http://www.surrealist.org/links/bibliography.html

Kind regards, Andries

From a new article on http://home.hetnet.nl/~ex-baba/english.html (press on news)

'Now I think that his feeling my private parts is not the worst. The worst thing of all I find is the enormous waste of time, the deception, the feelings of huge insecurity and self-doubt that have weighed on me all those years.'

I personally knew the person involved from the Dutch SSB youth group. I never doubted his sincerity.

Kind regards, Andries K.D.

 http://home.hetnet.nl/~ex-baba/english.html
Dear Andries
The above website has some cool snaps of Parthi Baba,but,when i saw it,it looks like One Big Bandicoot with Smaller Bandicoot's in tow. :) :) Especially with Black Band on Parthi Baba's Eye's.Well all the Money Parthi Baba collect's have to find some legit way's to further drain Money from Un-Suspecting People.Boy,am i glad that i am out of this sham and artificial spectacle's that Parthi Baba does.

Suresh
I realise you wish to defend your name and honour, but please be assured that none of us who have been been involved in this expose for a while, take any notice of what the spammers say. We are so used to their lies and attmpts to get us involved in discussion about their useless points.

Dear Questor(ess) :) :)
 ##Suresh, I like your posts; though you seem to be a faithful person, you have developed a sense of independence about it, and answer only to God. In this way we are very similar, though I am not a Hindu. I also appreciated your post about Hinduism being one of the most broadly expressed religions. That was always my impression.

By the way, I am a female questor(ess).##

I like your post's too.Not that i know everything,but this board seem's to bring some positive attributes of mine,hope you all don't mind when i do get carried away.In fact my wife pointed out to me,that i still have an residual Bhakthi,and that's why this cyber bashing of Parthi Baba is going on.I did not argue,but it did made me ponder.Is she right?Could you tell me,is that it?Does it really matter whether one is a Hindu,Christian,Islamic,Buddhist,Sikhs....aren't they all just like different river's finally merging in the vast ocean.?

OK Anthony,i won't respond to those dunderhead's...........

happy valentine's!
(usually don't like to qoute authors i am not familiar with, but i really liked this...keep keepin'on anthony's-)

"One ought not to occupy oneself with evil, other than in keeping a certain distance and a certain reserve, if one wishes to avoid the risk of paralyzing the creative elan and a still greater risk- that of furnishing arms to the powers of evil. One can grasp profoundly, i.e. intuitively, only that which one loves. True, Evil can never be intuitively 'grasped.' It must, however be acknowledged and sent to its appropriate place...

"Love is the vital element of profound knowledge, intuitive knowledge. Now, one cannot love evil. Evil is therefore unknowable in its essence. One can understand it only at a distance, as an observer of its phenomenology. The world of the hierarchies of evil appears like a luxuriant jungle, where you can certainly, if necessary, distinguish hundreds and thousands of particular plants, but where you can never attain to a clear view of the totality. The world of evil is a chaotic world- at least, such as it presents itself to the observer. One ought not to enter this jungle if one does not want to lose one's way there; one should be an observer from outside…"
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"Now, here we arrive at an important question: Once artificial demons are generated, how does one combat them, and how does one protect oneself and rid oneself of them? Firstly, how does one combat them? Good does not combat evil in the sense of destructive action. It ‘combats’ it by the sole fact of its presence. Just as darkness gives way to the presence of light, so does evil give way before the presence of good.

"Modern depth psychology has discovered and put into practice the therapeutic principle of bringing unconscious complexes to the light of consciousness. Because - so it affirms - the light of consciousness renders the obsessional complex not only visible but also impotent. This important discovery of modern psychology is in complete accord with the spiritual reality of the ‘struggle’ of the celestial hierarchies against evil. Because this ‘struggle’, also, amounts to their presence alone, i.e. to bringing evil to the light of day.

Light drives out darkness. This simple truth is the practical key to the problem of how to combat demons. A demon perceived, i.e. on whom the light of consciousness is thrown, is already a demon rendered impotent. This is why the desert fathers and other solitary saints had so much experience with demons. They cast their light on them. And they did so as representatives of human consciousness in general, for whoever withdraws from the world becomes representative of the world; he becomes a ‘son of man’. And being a ‘son of man’ the solitary saint attracted the demons haunting the subconscious of mankind, making them appear, i.e. bringing them to the light of consciousness and thus rendering them impotent.

Whilst St. Athanasius the Great struggled against human errors and depravations in the daylight of his public life as bishop of Alexandria, his friend and brother, St. Anthony the Great, in the solitude of the Egyptian desert, struggled against the demons whose doings in the darkness of the subconscious were stirring up these very errors and depravations. The famous ‘temptations’ of St. Anthony were not, truth to tell, only temptations where it was a matter of the salvation and progress of his soul, but rather they were, in the first place, acts of healing the humanity of his time from demoniacal obsession. They were acts of sacred magic, bringing demons to the light of consciousness illumined from above, through which they were reduced to impotence. St. Anthony drew demons from darkness to the light of the consciousness of the ‘son of man’ He rendered them visible, and thus impotent. A demon rendered impotent is a deflated balloon."

-Valentin Tomberg