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Claude G.  5963
11-20-2009 05:02 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-20-2009 05:03 PM
The $500,000 was not the issue, I was thinking the same thing about pooling a few people together with a minimum investment.

The real issue is the ongoing $1.5 million annual maintaince cost, property taxes and to pay the utilities for the Electical and Gas service every month to run the place. That dome don't keep inflated without Electricity :)

Too bad we did not get this oppertunity for Tiger Stadium, as I would be part owner already :)
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doctor_gogol  5962
11-20-2009 04:45 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-20-2009 04:51 PM
Geeze! Had I known, I would have pooled all my friends together and bought the place! I could have gotten 100 people together for 5k each. Then I could start my own minor league baseball team.


Paulw-YES! Thank you! FInally someone stands up and demands answers rather than kisses the conservancy's ass.

They've gone underground and silent far too many times during this entire process. I'm convinced that if a serious organization was involved with serious people in charge, the stadium would have been saved.

This will be an unpopular comment but, the city gave the conservancy more chances and opportunities than any other major city in the nation would have. At every opportunity that the conservancy could have dropped the ball, they did. It's time to either get off their asses regarding the field, or tell us you aren't interested and let it die.
Paul W  5961
11-18-2009 11:09 PM ET (US)
The Silverdome cost $55 million when it was built. Sold for only 1/2 a million?. Heck, the property itself has to be worth way more than that.

Somebody is going to make a ton of money off this deal when the economy improves. The I-75/ M-59 corridor is prime Oakland County property.

The MSL has no intentions of coming here. Haven't they already stated that? Detroit is not a soccer town. Never has and never will be!

If Pontiac was really offered $20 million for the property, why didn't they sell it then? Politic's as usual I guess.

If the OTSC is to meet this week, someone please tell them to step up to the plate and be honest and accountable about where their finances stand and what their intentions truly are!

This whole thing has dragged on way too long.
DougSki  5960
11-18-2009 10:31 AM ET (US)
Dale,

I do think if Pontiac lands an MLS team that the city of Detroit will take notice. While the money will still stay in Southwest Detroit, it would not go to Detroit, or Wayne County. I understand it looks like MLS won't expand at this time to Detroit, but they can get a smaller tier to come in and build up the soccer frenzy. At any rate, getting back to the root, I applaud Pontiac for at least taking the initiative to auction off the property and making it part of the tax base, something again Detroit will never get to do unless they auction off the Michigan and Trumbull property as they'd like to word it instead of the Field. AFterall to them it is just property, but to those who really care, it will never be property it will be Tiger Stadium and it will be the Field. There is still time to do something, somebody needs to step up to the plate and hopefully we get some answers this week as the OTSC is scheduled to meet.
Dale Atkinson  5959
11-18-2009 05:49 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2009 05:57 AM
Doug, in reference to your question regarding the city's blown opportunities regarding historic Tiger Stadium.....

They didn't care then, and most certainly don't care now.

All one has to do is view the Corner of Michigan and Trumbull to realize this.

And from the rumblings I've heard.... George Jackson and the other stooges from the DEGC do not have any desire to see the historic field preserved. Of course I guess that should come as no surprise to anyone based on past remarks made by the ever smug Mr. Jackson regarding the OTSC's past chances at success.

Visionless to the MAX, and to the very bitter end, these people are!
Doug & Diana Sokolowski  5958
11-17-2009 09:32 PM ET (US)
For those that are curious, apparently Old Yankee Stadium is starting to come down. There is an actual website set up to view photos of it.
http://www.stadiumpage.com/stpages/yankeedemo.html


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Claude G.  5957
11-17-2009 05:04 PM ET (US)
There was an article at the Detroit news that said that the company that tried to buy the Silverdome is now suing the city of Pontiac because they tried to buy it for $20 million a few years ago and the city gave them the run around.

Sound familier?
Doug & Diana Sokolowski  5956
11-17-2009 05:02 PM ET (US)
Pretty sad to read the Silverdome went for $500,000 in an auction and that Tiger Stadium never got the chance to be auctioned off like Pontiac did. What is even more ironic, is that at one point a plan arose for Tiger Stadium called the Corner Kick plan, which was denied. While baseball was the rich history of Tiger STadium, it was The Detroit Cougars of the NPSL/NASL league that played there for a short period of time. From what I understand it was not the best of venues for soccer as it stood, but the Corner Kick Plan was going to shore that up. Now I wonder what the City of Detroit will think if Pontiac gets the MLS as they've lost out on that revenue.
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Mark  5955
11-17-2009 04:56 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-17-2009 04:58 PM
Wow! The Silverdome just sold for $500,000!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Winning-bidd...07929.html?x=0&.v=6

That's exactly what they should have done with Tiger Stadium. Auction it off and let someone else use it.
Claude G.  5954
11-16-2009 03:26 AM ET (US)
This is really all Mike Illitches fault that we are in this position to begin with.

I find it hard to believe that the Tigers are loosing money considering the attendance numbers the past few years.

I think the whole issue is that the Illitch empire is simply too big. Between the Tigers, Red Wings, Motor City Casino, Olympia Entertainment, the Fox Theatre, and Little Caesars its almost impossible for him to focus on one thing and be good at it.

If Illitch is loosing money on the Tigers, maybe its time to sell to someone like the person who just bought the Chicago Cubs who has the finances to support a large payroll and can focus on winning a world series instead of staying up late at night figuring how much people will tolorate eating a bad $5 pizza before they will get their pizza somewhere else and pay a higher price for something better.
robfugelseth  5953
11-14-2009 10:30 PM ET (US)
Thanks Paul for posting that.

God Bless Ernie Harwell.
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Paul W  5952
11-14-2009 09:39 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-14-2009 09:39 AM
Thought I'd pass this on.

Bob Costas is doing a sitdown interview with Ernie Harwell on the MLB Network. I think its this coming Tuesday at 8 PM

Could be the last time we get to hear Ernie again.
doctor_gogol  5951
11-14-2009 05:26 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-14-2009 05:34 AM
There was an article in the Chicago Tribune stating that the Cubs are also interested in Granderson. They say that Illitch has been losing money on the Tigers and ordered the payroll to be cut.

http://tiny.cc/GjUP4

Enjoy the next few years of mediocrity!

If the Angels get Granderson, they'll win the series next year.

There is a pretty good article on mlb.com about this

http://tiny.cc/O319i
GOBLUEADAM  5950
11-14-2009 04:18 AM ET (US)
Hey Bill, I don't know where you could find that info, but I have a simular Centerfield Bleacher story. A years before Mark McGuire went crazy with the homeruns, I went up there to my usual seat near the flag pole. Got there early for batting practice because Oakland and the Bash Brothers were in town. Some kid brought his glove up there, and I laughed and told him, "NOBODY HITS HOMERUNS UP HERE KID, at least not since I've been going to games"! Sure enough, Mark McGuire tags one, and it falls just six seats to my left, toward the barbed wire seperation fence, on the 3rd role. And then Canseco hits one later, just above that, that trickled down to that same kid, and his glove! Sure enough, I HAD TO PUT SOME TIGER STADIUM MUSTARD ON THAT CROW THAT I HAD TO EAT.
GOBLUEADAM  5949
11-14-2009 04:10 AM ET (US)
Paul W, would you believe I just had a conversation today about the possible Illitch Fire sale? I laughed when I heard that they were going to dump Granderson, Jackson, Palanco, Laird, Themes, Lyons, and Rodney. I thought back to those cold March days last year, when he had these suckers, I mean fans, waiting in line to buy tickets for games in September. And that same team finished in last place, but they had their sellouts. And then this year, during the final stretch, the ballpark was half empty mainly because of the economy, but also because NOBODY HAD ANY FAITH IN THIS TEAM! They had been tricked for all those years by Illitch and his schemes for greedy cash domination, OR SHELL GAME, one too many times. This Fire Sale, is a cruel joke to the Detroit fans, knowing that if HOCKEY MIKE needs something for the Red Wings, he gets it NOW! If BASEBALL MIKE needs something for Tigers, well, we're pointing for two years down the road. Meanwhile, you suckers get to watch more talent from ERIE, come up, and stink up the major league ball fields, with Detroit written across their shirts.

P.S. Never in a million years did I ever thought I would say this but, WE GOTTA KEEP FERNANDO RODNEY!
Paul W  5948
11-14-2009 01:01 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-14-2009 01:12 AM
Why is Illitch a very successful NHL team owner, but not so much as a MLB team owner?

Wing's have great manangement in guys named Devellano and Babcock.

Tiger's top management isn't even close. Never has been. Why is this?

The Wing's seemed to have slipped a bit this year. The Tiger's future doesn't look very bright either.

Seems Illitch may be spreading his resources a bit thin. Maybe its time for him to commit his money and efforts to either the NHL or MLB.

But not both!
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