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stephen keith  398
09-04-2008 04:22 PM ET (US)
Any CG-47 sailors wanting to join a few of us Sept 11 2008 through Sept 14 2008 in Ft Lauderdale Fl. You are welcome to come check Dave post for room.
Ernest Beltran  397
08-23-2008 02:00 PM ET (US)
I am trying to contact a Tico buddy. His name is Robert DeCoito. I served on the Tico from June,1966 until September, 1969. He was on board one year before me and left left about one year before I left. I was a CYN3 on the ship.If you know how to contact him please e-mail me at aljelb@comcast.net.
Dave SlaveckiPerson was signed in when posted  396
08-13-2008 01:58 PM ET (US)
There's a group of us CG-47 plankowners planning a gathering in Ft. Lauderdale September 11th through the 14th. Sorry for the short notice. Here's where most of us are staying: http://www.seaclubresort.com

Originally organized by a group of OSs who have remained in touch, there's also a sprinkling of other CIC staff and snipes thrown in for good measure. All are welcome.

Email me at DvSlvcki@gmail.com if you're interested!
Bill Sauer  395
07-27-2008 11:28 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-01-2008 10:27 AM
Hey Guys time is getting close, what is the story on saving TICO from a untimely death. Also would like 2 hear from other TICO sailors from 1985-1988 or whenever. Add Tico 2 subject line in your email so I know. Drop me an email at oneslickdude2003@yahoo.com

SAVE TICO
Michael Kennedy  394
07-17-2008 01:31 PM ET (US)
best ship ive ever been on, was a gunners mate onboard and loved it, anyone that was on with me try and contact me if you are still in, love to hear from anyone
Bonnie Prosser  393
07-06-2008 12:48 PM ET (US)
My Grandmother's brother, Philip West Tarr, was one of the lost on the Ticonderoga in 1918. He was 18 years old. I have pictures of him, and some accounts of what happened from that time period...I would just like to see an official list of the dead, and I cant seem to find it. Thanks for any help!

Bonnie
David Henclewski  392
06-16-2008 05:55 AM ET (US)
Here is an article fyi.

Tuesday, June 03, 2008
The fact-finding visit to the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, La., is the sort of groundwork needed to push the Mississippi Ticonderoga Project along.


The project's aim is to bring the USS Ticonderoga to Pascagoula to serve as a museum, civic site and tourist attraction.

The project will require more than the support of Pascagoula and Jackson County. Moving and setting up the Ticonderoga is estimated to cost from $8 million to $10 million. With that level of cost, the Ticonderoga project may even need and deserve state support.

Dr. Jack Hoover, president of the Mississippi Ticonderoga Project, has said corporate help will be sought. Certainly, the local shipbuilding community will be called upon to assist with the project.

In comparison to the USS Kidd, a World War II era destroyer, the Ticonderoga project has a built-in advantage in that the ship was built in Pascagoula at Ingalls, which is now Northrop Grumman Shipbuilding. The Kidd had no such ties to Baton Rouge other than a desire there to preserve a piece of history. Here, the shipbuilders at Northrop Grumman can lend their expertise to the project, and possibly there are workers who helped build the Ticonderoga. The keel for the Ticonderoga was laid in 1980 and the ship was commissioned in 1983 after being built at a cost of about $1 billion. This is a project with roots in the local shipbuilding community.

Another plus: The ship is the first surface vessel equipped with the AEGIS combat system. The ship's influence remains visible in ships constructed today at the Northrop Grumman shipyard. The Ticonderoga represents a technological leap for the Navy.

On the tour to the USS Kidd, Pascagoula Mayor Matthew Avara said he would be against pledging taxpayer money to support the project. However, he would volunteer city staff to assist the project. Locating the Ticonderoga on the Pascagoula River next to downtown Pascagoula would make it a centerpiece for the city's waterfront development. The ship would be visible from Interstate 10, which would help draw tourists. The ship dovetails nicely into the city's plan, so its support would seem vital. The county should also help the project in any way it can.

The project is ambitious in scope, but another one of its primary advantages is the Ticonderoga represents the ties Mississippi has to the 21st century Navy. That's worth preserving and exhibiting to the rest of the world.
David R HenclewskiPerson was signed in when posted  391
06-13-2008 04:00 PM ET (US)
Here is the latest article.

Friday, June 13, 2008
By AMBER CRAIG
Staff Reporter
PASCAGOULA -- Community members pushing to bring the decommissioned USS Ticonderoga to Pascagoula plan to ask the U.S. Navy for an extension of more than a year on the July deadline to turn in the application.

The current deadline is July 31, but members of the Mississippi Ticonderoga Project are drafting a letter to Capt. Dave Tungett, manager of the Navy Inactive Ships Program, requesting that the deadline be pushed back to October 2009.

"There's no way we're going to have this application to the Navy by July," said Dr. Jack Hoover, president of the Mississippi Ticonderoga Project, during a project board meeting Thursday evening.

The guided missile cruiser, built at Ingalls and commissioned in 1983, would be the centerpiece of a proposed Mississippi Maritime and Warship Museum on the east bank of the city -- in the heart of a proposed waterfront development.

Hoover said board members are requesting the October 2009 date because it gives them more than a year to plan and raise funds but is not so far into the future that the Navy would deny the request.

The group will be able to complete the application process by then, Hoover said. The city of Pascagoula approved the project in October.

The group plans to send the letter within the next two weeks.

The total cost of the project is predicted to be $8 million to $10 million for seed money, site preparation, berthing locations, moorings, the museum and other operations. The ship is moored at the Naval Inactive Ships Maintenance Facility in Philadelphia.

The initial stage, a feasibility study, is expected to cost between $40,000 and $50,000.

Pat Keene, vice president of the Mississippi Ticonderoga Project, said the feasibility study will show the group how accurate their estimated cost really is.

"That's really the heart of where we go next," Keene said.

Board members are also discussing visiting with Gov. Haley Barbour to request state funding, but the group wants to have at least $10,000 raised before then.

The board has raised $4,000 so far.

Pascagoula Mayor Matthew Avara has said that he would not support spending taxpayer dollars on the Ticonderoga project.

If approved, the Ticonderoga would be the state's first warship museum.

Reporter Amber Craig can be reached at acraig@themississippipress.com or 228-934-1428.
gulf war vet. Pepoy  390
06-13-2008 03:31 PM ET (US)
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Jonathan Carpenter  389
06-13-2008 03:12 PM ET (US)
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D. Johnson  388
06-12-2008 05:37 PM ET (US)
I am currently looking for information on my father Louis Session who was stationed on the TI from 1962-1964 when the Ship was in the Seattle area. I do not know his job or rank. I have been searching for information on him for over 20 years. If anyone has any information that might be of some assistance please feel free to email me at Dangerous7544@yaoo.com this information would truly be appreciated.
Turbine Doc  387
06-06-2008 01:12 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-06-2008 01:18 PM
While not a Tico sailor, I was a Spru-Can sailor Kidd class to be exact USS-Scott DDG-995 I'm in Pascagoula have been since leaving USN in 1985,

There is a movement here in Goula area to save Tico & bring her here where she was built.

Ya'll mite want to have a look http://www.savethetico.org/ I'd hate to see another Spru-Can hull wind up as a fish haven,

see David R Henclewski's message 2 posts below this one

Cold War could not have been won without these ships we need one preserved as monument to those of us that sailed on them.

Plus the Spru-Cans & derivatives issued in newest technical advances today's sailor takes for granted that it was always Aegis & gas turbine propulsion

If ya'll know of any Scott sailors looking for our hangout, http://www.uss-scott.com I'm the caretaker there
ak8472@aol.com  386
06-05-2008 10:25 AM ET (US)
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Jim Saucier  385
06-05-2008 01:56 AM ET (US)
Do we have a company to do embroidery or screen printed Tico apparel?
Apparel can be sold locally/nationally to help support the cause to raise money and awareness.

As a Former Tico sailor (83-86) I would like to provide my company's support.
I own a small embroidery/screen printing company located in California.

Jim Saucier
RMSN
David R HenclewskiPerson was signed in when posted  384
06-04-2008 01:56 PM ET (US)
News on the effort to save TICO

USS Ticonderoga may come home to Pascagoula

Cherie Ward; The Mississippi Press
BATON ROUGE - More than 40 officials and community leaders from Jackson County embarked Thursday on a fact finding mission to tour the destroyer USS Kidd in Louisiana. The exploratory trip, sponsored by the Mississippi Ticonderoga Project and Vision Tours of Ocean Springs, was intended to provide ways to relocate the decommissioned USS Ticonderoga to Pascagoula. The guided missile cruiser would be the centerpiece of a proposed Mississippi Maritime and Warship Museum on the east bank of the city - in the heart of a proposed waterfront development.
"We want it on the Pascagoula River," said Dr. Jack Hoover, president of the Mississippi Ticonderoga Project. "We would like it as close as possible to the Highway 90 bridge for visibility to get more people in."
Hoover said the cost of the project is predicted to be $8 million to $10 million for transferring and setup.
"But, we plan to ask some of the bigger businesses for the majority of that," Hoover said. "It's a piece of our history. The ship was built at Ingalls in 1982. Businesses around here have made money off of the shipyard for years. So many people come up to me and say we have to have the ship here. The vets who served on the ship want it here."
Hoover organized the trip to tour the Kidd in hopes to gain county and statewide support for the project.
"I want everyone we invited today to take away from this trip that this is a beautiful project," Hoover said. "It will be extremely beneficial to the city of Pascagoula, Jackson County and to the whole state. Mississippi does not have a warship museum."
Maury Drummond, executive director of the USS Kidd Veterans Memorial, spent about an hour with the group answering questions and providing information about Baton Rouge's journey to gain its warship.
Drummond painted a picture of a worthwhile project with plenty of community involvement.
"Get the women involved," the 20-year director said, laughing. "Women will get things done and sometimes men just talk about it."
Most of the funds the museum receives are mainly from the gift shop, military reunions and overnight youth programs, but Drummond said the city allocates $225,000 annually for upkeep. He said city officials wanted 300,000 visitors yearly, but the ship sees about 80,000 visitors each year.
"And that's plenty," Drummond said. "If you get that many you're set. I'm willing to help in anyway I can."
Hoover said a hurricane plan would be developed as part of U.S. Navy requirements for the ship being transferred from the Naval Inactive Ships Maintenance Facility in Philadelphia, Pa.
"The ship would be hurricane-proof and up to Navy standards," Hoover said.
City officials agreed the location would be perfect, history would come alive in Pascagoula with a warship museum and it could be an added attraction.
"But, I have said from the beginning that I do not want taxpayer dollars spent on the setup," Pascagoula Mayor Matthew Avara said. "I have said many times that this administration will not raise taxes. I think it's a doable-do and it would be the lighthouse of the waterfront project. I'll go anywhere and talk to anyone about it - I just won't spend taxpayer money on it.'
Avara said he would volunteer city staff to research and try to obtain grant funds for the project, but would not support allocating as much money as the Kidd receives annually from Baton Rouge.
Todd Trenchard, communication director for Merchants & Marine Bank echoed the mayor.
"I think it's a good project," Trenchard said, "if we can find the financial resources for it. It's an important part of our history, but we're still recovering from Katrina."
Debbie Anglin, communications director with the Pascagoula School District, said she's excited about the prospect of a warship for students to tour.
"It's a part of our history," Anglin said. "Our students' family members built the ship and for them to be able to explore it is very exciting. I'm already thinking of ways we can utilize it in the school system."
Hoover said he understands the journey to bring the Ticonderoga to Pascagoula is long, but with help from the community it is obtainable.

Reporter Cherie Ward can be reached at cward@themississippipress.com or 228-934-1442.

TICONDEROGA FACTS
Homeport: Pascagoula Keel Laid: Jan. 27, 1980 Launched: April 25, 1981 Commissioned: Jan. 22, 1983 Decommissioned: Sept. 30, 2004, and sent to the Naval Inactive Ships Maintenance Facility in Philadelphia, Pa.
Builder: Ingalls Shipbuilding, West Bank, Pascagoula
Propulsion system: Four General Electric LM 2500 gas turbine engines
Length: 567 feet Beam: 55 feet Draft: 34 feet Displacement: about 9,600 tons full load
Speed: 30+ knots Crew: 24 officers, 340 enlisted Cost: About $1 billion Aircraft: two SH-60 Seahawks Armament: Two Mk 26 missile launchers, standard missiles and ASROC, Mk 46 torpedoes, harpoon missile launchers two Mk 45 5-inch/54 caliber lightweight guns, two Phalanx CIWS.
Information is from the Web site: www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.
PARTICIPANTS
Participating in the Mississippi Ticonderoga Project trip to the USS Kidd warship museum in Baton Rouge, La., were the following.
Pascagoula Mayor Matthew Avara Pascagoula
Councilman Keith Belcher Pascagoula
Councilman Joe Abston Pascagoula
Councilman Frank Corder Pascagoula
Councilman Robert Stallworth Gautier
Councilman Dick Paul Ocean Springs
Mayor Connie Moran
Jackson County Board of Supervisor Mike Mangum
Jackson County Board of Supervisor Manly Barton
Jackson County Board of Supervisor President John McKay
Jackson County Board of Supervisor Melton Harris
Bill Webb, Mississippi Development Authority
Billy Baronich, U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor's staff member
Debbie Anglin, communications director for the Pascagoula School District
Adam Askew, Hancock Bank
Anita Belcher, Excel by 5
David Boland, Pavoc
Charles Busby, Orion Engineering
Amy Brandenstein, Chevron Refinery Pascagoula
Rebecca Davis, Pascagoula Main Street Association
Delores Early, Ticonderoga Task Force member
Jim Estabrook, Estabrook Motors Liz Ford, Historic Preservation Commission Cynthia Garlich, Ticonderoga Task Force member
Dr. Jack Hoover, Gulf Coast OBGYN
Pat Keene, Ticonderoga Task Force member
Pam Lindsey, Charter Bank Retired
Adm. Jim Lisanby
Robbie Maxwell, Maxwell and Associates
Diann Payne, Jackson County Civic Action
Parker Pugh, Gulf Coast Business Council
Jerry St. Pé, St. Pé and Associates
Dr. James Sutton, Vision Tours
Carla Todd, Jackson County Chamber of Commerce
Todd Trenchard, Merchants and Marine Bank
Lynn Truelove, Singing River Hospital Systems
Alice Walker, Pascagoula Economic Development
Tim Lee, owner of WPMP radio
COMMUNITY LEADERS TOUR USS KIDD
Bill Sauer  383
05-26-2008 12:21 PM ET (US)
Hi Guys and fellow service men. I just found out online just now some bad news. The last Burke destroyer DDG 112 is not named TICONDEROGA, it will be the USS Michael Murphy (DDG-112). It was awarded to Bath Iron Irons 2 build her. Thought I would let you all know. Thank you all who sent letters to SecNav for trying.
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