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RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
03:09 PM ET (US)
It's just enough to keep people off food stamps, medicaid, etc.
02:50 PM ET (US)
Under the new table 2 payscale how does the usps except regulars to live off of $35,000 a year or $16 an hour?

I've seen ccas get hired and quit at a rapid rate and now new regulars are quitting because of the unlivable wages.

This is putting more strain on an aged workforce being worked to the bone.

Table 2 payscale is becoming an unmitigated disaster
alaska mailmanPerson was signed in when posted
11:54 PM ET (US)
wixomite57- Yes 1 of your 2 openings should have gone to the CCA with the most relative standing (seniority). Read MOU-1834. You should check into having a grievance filed for violating the conversion MOU. But just because they transferred in a carrier does not mean you must be made a regular.
04:48 PM ET (US)
I was a TE from the start of that program. I continued on as a CCA. I am ex military. I am from an office of 12 carriers and wonder if I will EVER have the chance to make regular?? There have been 2 route openings but they were filled by people who transferred in. I was under the impression that when an office took in a person who transfers, they had to make the senior PTF or CCA a regular? I understand there is some formula for this to happen? Any advice?
04:14 PM ET (US)
We used to call it 'closing the back door' when we couldn't keep people from quitting at the old manufacturing company I used to work at. It was like a steady stream of new hires and the number could never keep up with the ones leaving. USPS appears to have a similar problem and doesn't really care if they retain employees or not. Its like they think good employees are beating down the door to work for the USPS. After my wife's two month experience as a CCA she said she will never apply for another USPS job. She could hardly get any hours and when she did she was expected to have the same speed as someone that had done the route for years. She could never get a route for more than 2-3 days then it was on to a new one at a different station. Its expensive to train employees and have them only work a few weeks.
Ben Volin
03:38 PM ET (US)
We can't retain ccas to save our life in Boston. I've never seen so much OT
alaska mailmanPerson was signed in when posted
09:23 PM ET (US)
Cali- If the OT picks up so will the number of CCAs they hire to prevent it.
12:47 PM ET (US)
Well there must be a hiring freeze going on in Oregon at this time. The Job Search page is only showing (4) positions currently open to apply for, I had seen it at over (40) probably a month ago. There hasn't been a new opening posted for over a week now.
Cali to ColoPerson was signed in when posted
12:03 AM ET (US)
LochedUP, mail volume will increase in the fall and so will parcels. OT may pick up then. Is there a lot of "undertime" at your station?
07:08 PM ET (US)
LochedUp-Alaska is right-this job is feast or famine-have a backup.
alaska mailmanPerson was signed in when posted
11:18 PM ET (US)
lochedup - Never take a job based on getting over time.
04:41 PM ET (US)
Are there any rules for ODL carriers to get overtime before CCAs? I assume that they are to get overtime before a CCA gets penalty time, is that true? And are there any other rules? I used to get 56 hours a week (the max before penalty in my office) but now that we have a new supervisor he does things completely different. He has called in a N/S carrier on the ODL to work while taking pivots off the CCAs to fill up the other career carriers for 8. I'm assuming there's nothing I can do about this but the overtime was the only reason I took this job over my old 40 hour a week with benefits job!!
09:48 AM ET (US)
Ex te's can't get anything by law no time credit for pay or retirement. Only thing that can be is to move te's to the tier 1 pay scale which won't happen.
small town guy
07:33 AM ET (US)
/m5165 What CCA benefits were voted down at the convention? I know they voted to keep dues the same. Which I disagreed with. Do you understand that the union argued against non-career position and that an arbitrator ordered it? I can tell you that Fred Rolando told me to my face in a meeting that he was going to negotiate for sick leave for CCA's and financial consideration for the TE that got hammered in the Das ruling. I just want to make sure that some things the union didnt "accept" or "negotiate". The arbitrator ruled and we must follow them. I like that you said you will feel the same when you make regular. Never forget where you come from. And I believe in large part you owe the fact that you will become regular to the union. Our union fought hard for a path to career.
04:57 PM ET (US)
It's an excellent article, thanks a great deal for discussing lucky me which i ran to the site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1pgEFCjQZs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enyMBl8eW3Q
Hannah BlectorPerson was signed in when posted
03:50 PM ET (US)
John B, that is a personal decision. We may not like some things the union does. Sometimes the right thing is done and if negatively affects some and not others. Same when the wrong thing is done. No employer and no union is going to please everyone. I recommend a person ask themselves how much they would be compensated (pay and benefits) and what their work conditions would be if there was no union. You know what it is like with a union. You will have to imagine what it would be like without a union. Anyone who thinks it will be better without a union should send in the 1188. Personally, I believe union dues are a bargain. I pay mine gladly. It is different with your dues. I don't want to pay yours. If everyone who gets upset at the union sent in the 1188, eventually no one would be upset with the union anymore because it would not exist.
John B
03:24 PM ET (US)
Hannah, you put that perfectly. We need the union for the jerk bosses. I have good bosses in a small office and a jerk steward who uses rules to his advantage when they were not necessarily intended. There are a lot of days in my office when the mail could have been delivered sooner and cheaper... But I'm also for people not having to work overtime when they don't want to, and that should include CCAs. I don't like the imbalance of benefits between career and non career workers, and I will keep saying that when I am career. I also really don't like how so many CCA benefits were voted down at the last convention and didn't even make the bargaining table and that is going to happen again.

So I'm on the fence. I have my form 1188, and I think daily about mailing it in. I have 9 days left.
Hannah BlectorPerson was signed in when posted
02:28 PM ET (US)
/m5163 We all know how rough it is on CCAs. It is too bad that hard work is not always rewarded. Some blame the union for protecting some workers. However, such protection also aids those who work hard and still have problems because some jerk manager doesn't like them or is trying to move up by stepping on them. We must do what we must do to survive many times. The best advice you see on these forums from the experienced carriers is to set a pace you can maintain. It is a marathon, not a sprint. Don't burn out.
02:14 PM ET (US)
I understand what you're saying Hannah. Just consider my previous post the result of a few hard weeks of overthinking things. I will not slow down or lower my performance, I'll just try to keep doing the best I can and hope it pays off... It'll be much better once we're all regular. Also, good point on the Amazon stock comment. Goodness.
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