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Roy Fischer
09:38 GMT
Have any of you seen the news today about a nine year old girl killing [accident] her shooting instructor with a 40 cal Uzi. I taught my kids to shoot [now 39 & 36] and they are safe and responsible. You NEVER let a young kid have more than one round in an auto until they show they can handle the recoil. Also, no reason to let a nine year old girl fire an Uzi....stupid.....what's the point. 40 cal is more than a kid should have/use. 22 for plinking at the most. Hope this might lead to some common sense.
Young Ed
00:06 GMT
Jackie Thank you so much for following up the Union Road thing. Such a random thing. Garry shows us a toy, Jackie follows it up. I google it. This is what I googled. I hope you'll all find it interesting. Helps me understand where we come from and give context to our lives.




And by the way Jackie B, I had no idea the matchbox factory was in or close to Edmonton. Or maybe I did at one time and I since forgot. Feeling old! lol.
Edited 27-08-2014 00:07
08:43 GMT
Young Ed, I also wondered about Union Road so did a bit of digging and as far as I have been able to discover so it was the former name of Bridport Road that, coupled with the fact that Lesney toys first went into production in the old Rifleman Pub in Union Row, show that it might just be a bit of a nod to the Matchbox past. Union Row was on the Tottenham/Edmonton borders as far as I have been able to find so far. Blame a very wet Bank Holiday Monday for my fit of the anoraks. LOL

If anyone has Margaret's e-mail address perhaps they could drop her a note and let her know she is missed. She is probably being kept very busy with the family and her involvement with The Friends of Pymmes Park.
Young Ed
22:36 GMT
Roy F: That sounds like a nice stay in London. The posh part of town. Notting Hill, the other end of it at Ladbrook Grove used to have a good weekend market (Portobello Road) is that still going?

Jackie B, always good to get your local point of view, of Edmonton goings on etc. You seem to have taken over from Margaret. Hope she is well wherever she is?

Garry S, Never heard of Union Road, made up name is it (on the side of that bus)? Used to have the matchbox cars as a kid. "Hot Wheels" I think they were called.

I think it's fair to say - regarding the terrible stories that so frequently get published in the Enfield Independent, that it's not just Edmonton. The same problems are all over these days.

I find the Evening standard web site also has some good local London stories.

hope the rest of the year sees some improvement in the general wellbeing of the world. Far too much doom and gloom at the moment.
08:35 GMT
No Colin not food for thought I notice you mention the Bible and I see a hidden link/hint to the Jehovah's witnesses of which you have friends in Australia who place these ideas in your mind.And I have to tell you they are a cult with a very false message and I advise all persons not to listen to them or for that matter the Mormons.All points I raise can be verified by history.Just a few wrong dates from these people 1874/1914/1925/1975/ and many more also the bible they use has been altered so burn it, it is called the New World Translation so a quick google and search will reveal all be a detective educate your selves. This is in reply to post 5562
Colin C
01:51 GMT
JACKIE and ROY - you are both right. Everywhere today seems to be beset with social and economic problems not just Edmonton or Tottenham. A breakdown of the general order of things seems to be looming. Until recently, I was optimistic about the human race but just lately that optimism has been dented by events both at home and abroad. Hate the feeling but can't hide it away. But I guess this is how the Bible has predicted things would turn out. Food for thought.
13:14 GMT
Roy please do not take stuff you often hear at face value. I am an old bat of 68 and will happily walk alone through the street of Edmonton and Enfield. Might need my passport to cross the border into Tottenham though LOL

The violence we hear about is so often gang related and is not restricted to just our area of London.
Roy Fischer
10:04 GMT
Hi Jackie

Yes. Hot in Arizona in the summer [July/Aug] so we spend or time in Lon/Florence]. Temps run 43/109 to 48/118. The heat is much more tolerable than TX/AL/TN as we do not have the humidity. Rest of the year is really nice, 22/71...28/82.

Imp War Mus a let down. Nothing much to show and relying mainly on film footage. Did however go to the Guards Mus and really interesting. Well worth seeing.

Have not been back to Edmon for about 6 years or so. It really upset me when I saw what had happened. Strange planning has destroyed any semblance of what was. I understand that 'progress' has to happen but I saw none. Looks like the Green area has been rehashed several times and each time for the worse. Simply no heart or character left. As for population, speaks for its self. Dangerous even during the day and has the tag of 'Shank Alley'. Some character in Church St but that's it.

Met some old friends from Enfield the other night and they told me that the rarest thing in London is a Londoner.

I did not know that you have to pay to park at a hospital including doctors. Just saw it on the news. Also have to pay to get in to the National Church, Museums, Galleries, etc. 50p for a 'P'. 2.80 for a pint in Lambeth, 5.60 across the river. O'well....still love Lon.

NottingHill fiasco this w/end. Lived in Westbourne Grove for awhile when a student and it was bad enough then. Tubes closed and front yards turned into toilets. Off to Little Venice for a walk [hopefully won't get thrown in like someone recently....no bike so should be safe] and come back thru the park.
Garry Sleap
02:24 GMT

Something different and I just had to buy it.....a Matchbox toy bus. The side destination blind reads, 'Union Road, Edmonton Special.
19:12 GMT

Glad you are enjoying your time here. I am sure that it is far too hot in Arizona right now. I have only been to Texas once in August, and it was too hot to even walk to the mail box and I think that Arizona is much the same temperature wise. Am I right? I usually visit in April (my favourite) or October.

Have a quick look in at the Museum of London if you have the chance and you can go all nostalgic in the modern gallery (I had one of those LOL) They run free guided tours several times a day of specific galleries, just ask at the information desk and they will tell you which gallery and issue free tickets. Must admit I found it a tad amusing to be told about the history of Victorian women in my home city by a delightful young lady with a very strong French accent.

Love the old Bedlam hospital but have not yet visited since the refurb. On my list of to do during the next month or so.

The installation in The Tower is quite breathtaking and I have already bought one of the poppies and might well buy a second but will give others a chance first. I bought one for gt grandad who was killed in 1914 and hope to purchase the other in memory of a great uncle, a London boy who emigrated to Canada and was killed at the grand old age of 21. It will be lovely to give one of the poppies to my little grandson as a bit of the family history.

Well done on negotiating Brick Lane. I think it is the only place in London with street names in two different languages and if you are interested in the history of the area have a look around Princelet Street. It is full of old silk weavers houses and one of them is sometimes open as a 'museum of diversity'. It is a fascinating building because after the silk weavers left the Jewish community took over and built a synagogue in the back garden and cellar.

Just love Borough market and it was on one of my visits to Texas that my friend and I decided to visit the cinema rather than the open air ballet because it p'd down with rain on our way to the park and we saw Bridget Jones Diary. She was most amused that I could actually tell her about almost all the locations. Long way to travel to see ones home town.

I'll now shut up because there is so much to see and do I could go on forever.

Did you manage a trip to your N London roots.?
Roy Fischer
11:59 GMT
Have been in Lon for the past 4 weeks and 2 to go. Staying in a flat Upper St Martins Lane. Have stayed here before and will increase by two each year until hit 12 weeks. Too hot in Arizona this time of year.

Have been to The Tower a couple of times and well impressed by the poppies.

Lots of shows and going to walk to Imperial War Mus after lunch. Will be interesting to see the new work. Such a crime/disaster when it burnt years ago. So much lost forever. Remember as a kid going thru the 'rabbit run' that it was.

Watched the old car drive up Whitehall with Chelsea pensioners in each and then displayed at Buck Palace.

Had a nice Vindi in Brick Lane and a couple of brews in Borough Market.
08:34 GMT
Colin, it will be interesting to see the new developments as they emerge from the ground. Must do a bit of research ino the planning at City of London to see what I can find out. Seeing new angles on several London buildings now and I love wandering through The Barbican just to look at all those window boxes.
Colin C
07:04 GMT
JACKIE B - yes, we loved the Museum of London, too. Wonder what they are going to do to replace the high-walks at the nearby Barbican. Oddly enough, the whole development reminded me of how we imagined the Hanging Gardens of Babylon to be. Amazing how greenery can 'soften' that Brutalist school of architecture of the 1970s, isn't it?
10:32 GMT
I'm sure that most of you know this already but if you are still close enough to visit London you can get up close and personal to the Olympic cauldron at The Museum of London. Popped in during the week and learned lots that I didn't already know about it. Check out this link.


The photos by Christina Bloom were fascinating too and I thought it a bit unusual for a woman to have a career as a photographer back then.

For those like me who normally wander through from Liverpool Street be warned as it is no longer possible to use the High Walks at the Barbican (large holes where the walkways used to be) so either walk at ground level along London Wall or catch the underground to Barbican.

Ronnie D good luck with your search but you might hit a bit of a brick wall for a while as, in this country, second world war records are not yet in the public domain.
Edited 09-08-2014 10:34
Colin C
01:09 GMT
JACKIE B - what a great idea. Should make a spectacular sight when completed. Thanks for posting the photo. Visited the Tower when in Londn last year - had no idea it was spread over such a large area of land. Crown Jewels were dazzling - wonder what their collective worth is?
Ronnie D
16:50 GMT
Colin C: Colin, many thanks for your reply and the e-mail address, I will contact them in the hope they can give me some information or point me in the right direction. Thanks again, appreciated.
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