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Ron V
23-10-2014
22:28 GMT

The pic of Bounces Rd garage.The van in the distance is an Austin K8. The car is a Sumbeam Alpine introduced in 1959. so no ealier than 1959 and no later thqn 1964 when i started driving and used to get my petrol there for 20p a gallon.Pic of van attached
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Colin C
22-10-2014
08:53 GMT
JACKIE B - your mention of Trent Park brought back memories of the many cross-country runs I had there during my time at TGS (we used to be taken there by bus). Loved the sense of freedom when running through that environment. Also when I was living at Potters Bar, I regularly went for walks through open countryside surrounding the town. The beauty of the English countryside easilyl rivals the beachscapes I now have virtually on my doorstep. I often think that if I ever move again in my lifetime it will be to somewhere with a rural rather than ocean outlook. I like both, of course, but now I think I am at the stage where a stroll through woodland is as welcome as along the beach. By the way, when were you at Alma Primary?
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JackieB
22-10-2014
08:16 GMT
Colin, we have something in common. I went to Alma Primary starting as you finished and like you say it gave us a good basic standard of education at least sufficient for me to pass the 11+ too.

I often think of my grandmother who died some years before I was born and wondered if she might have just be spinning in her grave seeing me as an 18 year old going out alone, meeting friends in pubs and clubs and actually driving a CAR of my own and then think on to the tech side of things. How our ancestors might feel if they knew I was sitting here in the UK chatting to you in Oz and being able to Skype friends around the world. Even electricity, the basic telephone, central heating and TV and bathrooms in almost every home in the country would have been beyond her wildest dreams and she did not die until the 1930s. Wonder what our grandchildren will discover and think about the simple somewhat primitive way in which we live today.

I agree that a lovely walk that takes us back close to nature is wonderful and I feel so lucky to have Trent Park, Whitewebbs and Forty Hall all a short drive away. I'd love to live near the sea but I have so much here to enjoy. 30 minutes into central London and 5 minutes drive to countryside, someone would have to bring the sea and beach to me.
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Colin C
22-10-2014
04:43 GMT
YOUNG ED - I agree. The pace of change is now so rapid it is easier than ever to feel disconnected from the world around us. However, a walk along a beach or through a park or woodland soon gives us a sense of familiarity with our surroundings. The point being? Nature changes little but 'techno-man' certainly does. I embrace some aspects of technological change but also reject quite a lot of others. I still believe, however, that as a social animal, we are going backwards, the cohesion of civilisation seems to be fragmenting fast. What say you?
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Young Ed
22-10-2014
03:34 GMT
Colin. "distant" as regards how long ago, is i think how me must all think to make sense of what we are seeing now. When you were going to primary school 1951, that was 63 years ago. To put that in perspective think how Edmonton might have looked 63 years before that in 1888. To a slightly lesser degree I am experiencing the same amazement and disconnect at the pace of changes going on.
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Colin C
21-10-2014
23:17 GMT
JACKIE B - I forgot to mention that I went to Alma Road Primary School from 1947-51, a school I remember with a good deal of fondness. Made lots of friends there and enjoyed a good basic education which enabled me to go on to Tottenham Grammar School after passing the 11+ exam (remember that?) in 1951. Could walk safely to and from home to the school back then which was a fair distance to go. Happy, distant days. (Although I am sure they weren't totally happy at times - reminiscing tends to paint the past as a golden era which not always deserved.).
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Pete Letch
21-10-2014
12:02 GMT
JackieB : After coming out of the RAF my first job was with Ediswans in Duck Lees Lane in 1955, they then become part of the A.E.I. group of companies, and moved to Brantwood Rd., Tottenham. I also remember Alma Road very well, where my friend lived, and of course the ALMA pub.
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Colin C
20-10-2014
10:26 GMT
JACKIE B - hello again. Glad you had a good time in Wales - a really beautiful part of the UK.
Yep, I lived in Ponders End from 1947-55 before the family moved out to the 'sticks' in Potters Bar. Thanks for telling us about the Two Brewers memorial. My Grandad who lived in Ponders Plonk during the war years told me that they never did find the barmaid's body after the bombing of the pub in 1940 and that he remembers tell of one of the customers being found in the street with both legs blown off but who survived. Unfortunately, no names were mentioned so I guess we will never know now. Nice to see what must be a valuable piece of real estate being used for the common good - a rarity nowadays. By the way (and not related to the topic) we are enjoying record heatwave conditions for October here in Adelaide. Real beachgoing weather. 36C forecast for tomorrow. Badly need rain, though. So far, this Spring has been the driest for years. Goodness knows what will happen when Summer comes along. Sometimes, I long for an English rainy day. Oh well, guess we can't have everything.
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JackieB
19-10-2014
18:40 GMT
Back on board after a lovely time with a group of friends in Wales.

How many of you know or are from Ponders End? Had a great guided walk around the area this afternoon. Margaret, this was also led by Joe who did the Pymmes Brook walk. He really works hard to entertain us all but this time could not even find a square inch that I didn't know.

The memorial garden for the Two Brewers is now complete and opened and the only thing I felt was a bit wrong is that nowhere that I could see were the casualties named.
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Ronnie D
15-10-2014
22:19 GMT
Geoff: Thanks again for your reply. Those overcoats were heavy enough dry, they must have weighed a hundred weight when wet. Hand signals are a thing of the past, I don't think they even include them in the Standard Driving Test now or do they? I still have some of the old silver and black buttons with the LT Griffin on, several Cap Badges (Red, Navy & White, Orange) and other LT Badges (Motor Club, TGW Union and Buses) and my PSV Drivers Badge, still in it's leather case. I handed my Conductors Badge back when I went driving.
Interesting that your Dad's apprentice helped design the RM. If I had the funds, I'd buy one for the fun of it.
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Geoff
15-10-2014
09:37 GMT
Ronnie D: I have one of those drivers overcoats (in the loft).....paid 10/- for it from a guy in the uniform stores. The drivers coat had the white band around the right wrist so it could be seen when giving hand signals. (Remember them?)
I've always had a love for the RM too. One of the designers was my dad's apprentice at Tottenham Garage!
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Ronnie D
14-10-2014
22:23 GMT
Geoff: Many thanks for your reply. That must have been some task without Power Assisted Steering, back then and I'm guessing that they had no Cab or Saloon heating in winter either?? as I can remember the real thick overcoats that my Dad and Granddad used to wear with a white band on the wrist of the right arm.
I managed to obtain one of those overcoats (from an old hand at Edmonton Garage) when I was driving RM's, not that it was needed with a cab heater and even with the Power Assisted Steering, the coat was that thick it was difficult to steer when wearing it, so heaven knows how those Trolleybus drivers managed it, without Power Assisted Steering to.
The RM braking was far, far better I thought, than the DMS Type that came later, in fact I much preferred the RM to any other type or model of London Bus.
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Margaret baker
14-10-2014
20:36 GMT
Harry worth windows. Still raining in stansted feeling up the creek without a paddle, no public road transport here, still 5 year old Great is keeping me busy, we are building a super hero island, school project lol. It is going to be rubbish ha ha.
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Geoff
14-10-2014
17:53 GMT
Hello to one and all.

@Ronnie D, Trolleybuses did not have power steering back then, although the modern day ones do!
The RM only had power assisted steering and the brakes were air over hydraulic.

Sorry to be picky but I am a bus anorak!!
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Roy Fischer
13-10-2014
18:14 GMT
I well remember the curved glass in Dales. Its purpose was to avoid reflection. There is a book shop in Piccadilly that still has the same.
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Vlad the Imbiber
13-10-2014
16:12 GMT
Yes I do remember Firth's. Like I said the curved window gave a clear view of the display but it may also have been used to deflect direct sunlight which could damage the display.
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