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15:46 GMT
Caught up with some areas of Enfield I don't normally visit having walked a small section of the London LOOP this week. We did from Chase Farm to Ordnance Road via Rectory Farm, Strayfield Road, Whitewebbs and Forty Hall Parks, Maidens Bridge and The Dell with a coffee break at the Rose and Crown. Once you get off the roads nothing has changed in all the years I have known it except that there is now a footbridge over the A10 between The Dell and the Crem. and the main footpaths at Forty Hall have been given a makeover so that they are now more user friendly. Don't think I'd want to push a wheelchair over them at this time of the year but once the leaves have rotted away it will be great to be able to take my less mobile friends along by the fishing ponds.

Any of you know why that particular area is known as The Dell?
Young Ed
19:20 GMT
Yes Dave you're right. It works across the whole country (and the whole planet most likely). I'm ashamed to say I never tried Pie and mash but am willing to give it a go next time I'm in town. There seems to be about 10 of these places dotted about the greater London area. As far as fish and chips go, I remember getting the best platters out on the coast. Especially in Devon and Cornwall, and even Southend. Freshest catch most likely.

Colin thanks for the tips, I went into a nice pub in Covent Garden last time but can't remember the name.
Edited 14-11-2014 00:23
Dave WallerPerson was signed in when posted
23:47 GMT
That works in almost all areas, just type in the place, then add fish and chips. More important you can also find the pie and mash shops.
Colin C
23:02 GMT
YOUNG ED - interesting and I certainly didn't know you could do that. Thanks for posting. If you do get to London in the future, try THE BREWMASTER at Leicester Square (right outside the Tube station). Good food. Upstairs room is best as it is less noisy than downstairs. Gets very busy but staff are efficient and friendly. Also WAXY O'CONNORS is popular, too. Neither is particularly cheap but food is good quality and plentiful.
Young Ed
19:29 GMT
I learned something about Google maps yesterday, and I thought some of you may find it interesting or at least useful.
Was reading Enfield Independent and noticed a local chippy won a food quality award. Somewhere along London Road in Enfield I believe, so I had a look on Google maps (in case I ever go back for a visit). Turns out if you type in "Takeaway fish and chips" (It's not necessary to include the quotation marks " ") it lists every fish and chip shop in London with a red indentifier. I knew you could find food places on Google maps, but was not aware that you could make it list only fish and chip shops! Maybe not news to you but it was to me.


Edited 12-11-2014 20:18
Young Ed
18:01 GMT
Started smoking at 14 and gave it up at 26 Colin. That was half a life time ago, best decision I ever made.
Colin C
07:56 GMT
YOUNG ED - remember when it was OK to smoke in cinemas and theatres, too? A veritable fog sometimes. On a personal note, I am glad that smoking is now regarded as socially unacceptable as well as a risk to health. However, I do believe people should be allowed to smoke OUTSIDE buildings but even this now is being restricted. Shopping centres here in Adelaide have a smoke-free zone which extends well beyond the entrance doors into the centre. Having seen a dear frined die from cigarette smoking in the most painful way many years ago (in the UK), I think it is a highly desirable reform to prevent such tragedies. Oh, and go to China to see how they are gradually smoking themselves to death if the pollution doesn't get them first!
Young Ed
22:06 GMT
Very interesting Geoff and somewhat scary to think about. The other big disaster I remember was the Kings Cross Fire. I remember before that you could smoke on the tube and the busses in those days. It seemed to normal at the time, and I used to smoke like a chimney for years but even to me now it seems almost unbelievable. You'd probably be shot now for having a smoke on a bus or train
18:09 GMT
@Young Ed. With regard to accidents, while on the tour of the works it was quite a surprise to see the number of damaged tube trains. From; that hit a platform, that hit the tunnel, that hit a sign, that ran into the back of another.......the list went on.
(what the eye don't see the mind don't grieve over!!)
Young Ed
19:27 GMT
Geoff, I'm just surprised - if this was common knowledge it was allowed to go on. Amazing there were not more accidents. A bit like driving a bus with your feet up on the steering wheel. Not too safe.
13:56 GMT
@Young Ed. It's true in as much as the guide not only told us, but also demonstrated it. The stick was kept behind the driver in his cab and when used one end was jammed at the back of the cab and the other jammed up against the deadmans handle.
The tube train was one that ran on the Picadilly line and this was back in the sixties.
The section of line mentioned was from Acton to Hammersmith where the Picadilly trains didn't stop as the stations on this section were served by the District Line.
Edited 05-11-2014 13:59
Young Ed
21:48 GMT
That's outrageous about the stick/handle if its true.
Colin C
23:41 GMT
RONNIE D and others - thanks for updating me on the verdict on the Moorgate disaster. Incidentally, had no knowledge of the 'long stick' drivers used. Pretty dicey arrangement I should have thought.
Nicky Collins
15:27 GMT
At the station we always thought the driver had committed suicide, we never considered the stick, that could explain it.
10:38 GMT
I remember a visit to the Acton underground overhaul works in the 60's. The guide showed us how the drivers used a long stick to jam open the 'deadmans handle' so they didn't have to keep their hands on it. It was useful when on long sections of track as their arms could get tired!
Young Ed
05:03 GMT
No problem Ronnie D, your contribution is most appreciated.
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