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dlusps
09-29-2014
07:24 AM ET (US)
Thanks Riksny
908
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
09-28-2014
09:41 PM ET (US)
No, it means you will be able to take the test for the PSE job.
907
dlusps
09-28-2014
08:55 PM ET (US)
so I have been a pmr for 2 years does this mean I will be out of a job? I have been running a 4 hour office 6 days a week?
906
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
09-28-2014
04:51 PM ET (US)
The one in my office didn't.
905
USPSmommy
09-28-2014
04:10 PM ET (US)
Will PMRs turned PSEs have to go through another probation period?
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USPSmommy
09-28-2014
03:43 PM ET (US)
/m903, thank you RIKSNY for the ruling and new MOU. If PSEs in 4 hour offices won't count against the cap, then I guess it doesn't matter? Also, am I reading right that 6 hour career clerks can only take on additional work within a 15 mile radius of their home office. The text also keeps referring to EPMs currently in 6 hour offices, not PSEs.

/m901, from the daily postal employee e-newsletter's summary that was sent out last week. As for the other, you're correct that it will be an improvement in pay, especially for those PMRs who weren't even making that much and were stuck in the $9 and $10 range; but doesn't address PMRs who are currently making more. I guess we'll find out more as it's worked out.
903
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
09-28-2014
02:03 PM ET (US)
Here is the Arbitrator's ruling: http://www.apwu.org/sites/apwu/files/resou...Staffing_090514.pdf

Here is the MOU: http://www.apwu.org/sites/apwu/files/resou...fing_MOU_092214.pdf
902
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901
a pse
09-28-2014
01:56 PM ET (US)
/m900 Where did you read that they weren't going to change the number of employees assigned to 4 hr RMPOs? For the PMRs who were making 11.88/hr the change to level 6 PSE will be an improvement in pay.
900
USPSmommy
09-28-2014
12:22 PM ET (US)
What happens if there are currently more than one PMR assigned to those offices? From what I read, they said they weren't going to change the number of employees already assigned. So now, if an office has two or three PMRs, they're only going to keep one?
899
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
09-28-2014
12:11 PM ET (US)
Aha, found a tool that will do it! If anyone else needs it: http://www.textfixer.com/tools/remove-line-breaks.php

Each Level4 Remotely Managed Post Office (RMPO) will be staffed with one Pay Level 6 Postal Support Employee (PSE).
898
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
09-28-2014
12:01 PM ET (US)
I was just looking over the MOU and noticed this:
"Each
Level4
Remotely
Managed
Post
Office
(RMPO)
will
be
staffed
with
one
Pay
Level
6
Postal
Support
Employee
(PSE). "

(By the way, I hate the formatting on these .pdf's, but I can't figure out how to rearrange it without physically backspacing the line breaks out. Not sure what causes this or how to stop it. If anybody knows, please tell me. Maybe I will be able to search for it later.)

So does this mean that these PSE's are working 6 days? Yuck. A few might prefer it, but I bet most won't. I hope the APO's are going to make provision for getting these people a few days off now and then.
897
Dan
09-28-2014
11:20 AM ET (US)
After reading the Arbitration agreement, one very important piece of information stood out. We will see if it holds true, but it stated 4 hr RMPO offices would be staffed with PSE's at a pay level 6 = $15.26 per hour.
896
Randy
09-27-2014
02:22 PM ET (US)
/m894..PMR's were always considered management as mentioned by your comment: craft verses management. APWU represents the clerks and will represent you if you decide to pursue the PSE position. Bear in mind that their first priority will be to protect the current APWU members. (seniority, bidding, pay, etc.) APWU filed the grievance to protect the jobs for current union members and the Arbitrator agreed that these jobs, other than the 2 hr offices, were indeed to be assigned to the clerks as per the signed and agreed current labor contract.

"What can the union do for her present situation?"

NAPUS is who you should be asking about that.
Edited 09-27-2014 02:41 PM
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Randy
09-27-2014
02:11 PM ET (US)
USPSmommy...PMR's are pretty much screwed IMHO.. I would look at past practice as what has transpired with Postplan so far. Former Postmaster's in Level 16 & below (that got booted just like the PMR's are getting)received saved grade pay for 2 years until Postplan was completed, after that, they get what the size of the office pays. I think it was around $16 to $18 per hr. Most would take a $10 plus decrease in pay unless they could find a landing spot...

TE's who were abolished and had to reapply for the new CCA's position, took a $6 an hour paycut to stay employed.. However they did retain their seniority I believe.

 So to answer your question, I believe some PMR's will be forced to take the pay cut to stay employed at the PO.. APWU has no input on setting the wages for employees other than during contract talks. They can try and insert that language into the agreed MOU, but it would have to be agreed upon on both sides.
Edited 09-27-2014 02:13 PM
894
USPSmommy
09-27-2014
06:56 AM ET (US)
PMR for years has very legitimate concerns about what's going to happen to her right now. Don't dismiss her concerns with 'all blame goes to management, all victory goes to the union.' What can the union do for her present situation?

Also, when it comes to future possible conversions, will PMR time count for seniority as TE time counted for CCAs; or are PMRs SOL because craft versus management? or because the union never fought for it?
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