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10:32 PM ET (US)
Finally after 5 years of service I just got a full time career position. Gone everywhere and done everything I was asked to and it finally paid off. Not sure if I would do it again but I had too much time invested to just lay down and quit. I guess PSE is the way to go.
09:05 PM ET (US)
  OIC (higher level) to an EAS position is 2 pay grades below the position held... IE: level 11 pay for a level 13 office.
02:30 PM ET (US)
When I was a level 11 PMR my pay rate was the same as the OIC. I was at the top of my pay scale. I would think it would be more for a level 13. I would call someone in HR.
Edited 09-14-2015 02:30 PM
07:22 PM ET (US)
Am asking for a friend. In April 2013 he - PMR, 14 years, at top of pay level- became OIC in level 13 office.

The office became a level 6 RMPO early this year, so he went back to PMR position.

 His pay as PMR was level 11 office. He told me he did not receive any pay increase as OIC. Should he have a higher pay just by becoming an OIC? Does anyone know if PMR and OIC payrate were the same? If his pay as PMR was level 11, by him becoming an OIC, should he have been paid at level 13? And most important is he entitled to back pay and how does he proceed to get it?
Dakota NTFT
09:03 AM ET (US)
I work 6.5 hours daily and 3 hours on Saturday.
10:10 AM ET (US)
in our area, if you take a PTF job, you are there for 18 mos!!
10:01 PM ET (US)
Not guaranteed 40.... but guaranteed what ever hours is on thier form 50. The NTFT in my cluster is a 36 hour NTFT.
06:27 PM ET (US)
Are NTFTs working 6hr offices guaranteed 40 hours/week? It was my understanding if office was open 6 hours, NTFT would work 6 1/2 hrs daily during week and for Sat at least 4 hours
10:50 AM ET (US)
Was a form 50 cut for you on
your PTF position? If so they can't take the career position away from you and if they try I would grieve it. Her grievance depends on if they got her withdraw verbally or in writing to show it happened after the time set to respond.
Continously Screwed
10:01 AM ET (US)
so got screwed as a pmr, then abused as a pse, now a pft job comes available and I senior person, but a ntft or clerk who was canvassed first put in for it, then withdrew her request, and now shes grieving it that she now wants it again, they posted my current job. will she get it?
PMR2PSE2PTFPerson was signed in when posted
01:51 PM ET (US)
/m4240 I agree that the APWU won't readily agree to allow expanded use of PMRs, nor should they. That said, there is a very real problem in terms of providing relief from 6-day work weeks in many offices, both RMPOs and some level 18 APOs where PSEs and PTFs are expected to work 6 days every week -- which is a good way to burn out. I'm not saying PMRs are the best way to allow for these occasional days off for PSEs and PTFs but a lot of smaller installations just don't have the staffing to provide any flexibility or relief in scheduling.

I suspect the union wants all positions to be career positions, or at least union-represented positions, and I can understand why to a large degree. I suspect in their ideal world, *every* clerk job in USPS would be a full-time regular career job. But I don't think hiring another PSE or PTF that almost never gets hours (or who takes many hours from others already on the job) is feasible, much less hiring FTRs in these most affected locations.

So we're stuck in this situation, I suppose. That said, there are a lot of union members who have to work 6 days a week every week, and would rather not -- and also many who have a horrible time getting time off because there's never enough people to cover the outage -- and it doesn't seem like there's much consideration for them. Frankly as a union member I would be glad to have a PMR work the 6th day of a work week for me, if that were the only way I could get two N/S days a week.
Edited 09-06-2015 02:03 PM
12:59 PM ET (US)
/m4236... No hours.
I don't believe there is any leverage power at all in the contract talks for PMR's. The APWU would never agree to use PMR's for any craft work. That would be like NAPUS negotiating for clerks to do PM work.
And if it goes to arbitration (most likely) and I don't see an arbitrator changing the recent arbitration award of Pse's & Ntft's in 4 & 6 hour offices. Apwu is fighting for MORE full time positions and eliminate the failed NTFT position
You should be filing for uemployement due to reduced hours. Your form 50 should of been mailed to you when you became a PMR. HR can mail another to you. Or print one off on lite blue page if PMR's can access that.
Edited 09-06-2015 01:12 PM
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
10:47 AM ET (US)
Still just gossip, though, right? I mean, union rep in a local PO is a fellow employee, no inside track or anything?
10:22 AM ET (US)
I heard it from the union rep in a local PO. Fairly reputable source.
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
09:55 PM ET (US)
"Now I here"

Who did you hear it from?
Did they tell you why they thought it was true?
Apparently you are not quite certain if they are a good source or not & are trying to check it out here.
09:18 PM ET (US)
 Like PMR23 I was/am a PMR/R for the last 10 years. When my postmaster was forced out in 2012 I ran the office 6 days a week for 2 years. 2013 brought postplan and I went from 52 hours a week to 26 hours a week. Applied for unemployment and they wanted my form 50 info. No help from my district or HR. Labor dept. is looking into the form 50 issue. Now I here PMRs are being used as leveraging in the new contract. So we're being kept on the rolls with no hours till the contract is ratified. Can this be true?
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
12:47 PM ET (US)
/m4234 see answer in other thread.
Martha Jones
12:19 PM ET (US)
I am currently a Mailhandler and am looking to become a Process Control Assistant. Is there anyone here that works or worked as a PCA? I'm interviewing next week and would like to have more detail on the day to day job.
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