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02:50 PM ET (US)
I recently got hired as a PMR in Missouri. I showed up to work, did everything correctly and loved my job. My postmaster told me I needed to cover 2 additional locations for another employee and I agreed to but would like notice for daycare arrangements.. She began to yell and shout at me in front of other people so I said that's very unprofessional. So, yesterday I finished at my office and she showed up and said I need your keys and badge and your fired.. I did nothing wrong and don't know what to do. I was told PMRs are not part of the union since they are contract positions and also her husband is the position above her on the ladder. Do I have any options? Really would appreciate any feedback. You can contact me directly at chelcballentine@gmail.com
ArtistewolfPerson was signed in when posted
09:40 AM ET (US)
/m4328 I feel exactly the way you do. I didn't score high enough to keep a newbie off the street with Taco Bell experience from taking my 4 hr office from me. PMR since 2000.
PMR2PSE2PTFPerson was signed in when posted
11:46 AM ET (US)
/m4328 I really think it's premature to speculate until the APWU has a new contract and we know exactly how PMRs can and can not be used in the contract. For sure, the union won't want to allow expanded use of PMRs or backslide off of their win in September 2014 that got the PMRs out of 4-hour and 6-hour RMPOs, but you never know what will come out of arbitration.

If PMRs aren't given any expanded roles in the new contract from what they have now, then I wouldn't be surprised to see some purging of the rolls, but as I've said again, it costs virtually nothing to keep a PMR on the payroll since they earn no wages or benefits whatsoever when they are not working.

/m4323 Sorry for the delayed reply to an older question, but technically you don't "transfer" from PMR to craft. It is officially a terminate-and-rehire situation, so your annual leave is all cashed out and your hire and seniority dates are reset to your first day as a craft employee (PSE, PTF, et cetera). Because it's a terminate and rehire situation, you generally have to go through all the new hire hoops again -- the application, interviews, drug test, fingerprinting background checks, and so on -- but I've heard (yeah, I know) that if you had done any of these recently enough you *may* not have to do some of them again. A bunch of former PMRs in four-hour RMPOs, myself included, had to go through all of that again in order to be rehired as a PSE.
Edited 06-04-2016 11:57 AM
11:36 AM ET (US)
I started in 1997, can we not be grandfather in? I have taken the pse test and passed, but didn't make the highest score. Does that not count for anything? Its not like we didn't take the test. We are qualified to do the job. They will hire someone off the streets that doesn't know anything. They don't know if they will even stay that long. HELP!!!!!
ArtistewolfPerson was signed in when posted
09:07 AM ET (US)
/m4325 They used me for mail count this year, otherwise I haven't worked.
PMR2PSE2PTFPerson was signed in when posted
10:34 AM ET (US)
/m4325 I don't think they will actively purge all the PMRs from the payroll, especially before a new APWU contract is finalized.
10:25 AM ET (US)
I am a PMR, Was an OIC in 6hr office until replaced by clerk March 2015. I continued to work in the same office(still a PMR) when clerk needed day off until March this year-when I closed out my accountability, returned keys. Am wondering what other PMRs are working or doing , if any are still left ? Since I was 62 in March 2015, I was able to collect Social Security and Unemployment. Unemployment does not effect SS. I am really enjoying my retirement. Just wondering why the USPS is keeping me and other PMRs on rolls? What are they getting out of it ???
Edited 04-29-2016 10:26 AM
Mama don'tliePerson was signed in when posted
06:19 AM ET (US)
/m4323 sadly, no.
11:34 PM ET (US)
If I started with the USPS as a PMR for 11 then transferred to a larger office and was a PTF for a few years before becoming full time...Does any of my 11 yrs as a PMR count towards retirement...financially or as a count of years employed?
PMR2PSE2PTFPerson was signed in when posted
03:31 PM ET (US)
Not only *can* the PM do this, but if the person off the street had veterans preference, the PM may have had no choice.
Edited 04-18-2016 04:10 PM
MainePMR to PSE
12:54 PM ET (US)
Sadly, Yes
12:39 PM ET (US)
I have been a PMR for 5 months. A position in my PO came open for a PSE. I applied and my postmaster gave it to someone off the street with no experience. Can they do this to me?
06:12 PM ET (US)
Sad the Postal service gives you a raise as a PMR. Tell you you will work 4 hour offices then tell you you have to take a test for PSE then conveniently loose your test score and give to someone else with less years than you. A PSE has a lower wage. Still receive letter as Pmr That we received a raise. Was told I was no longer allowed to work my office of 25 years as PMR Told not to come back the next day called the next office I was ask to work to tell them Couldn't work for them the next week when they needed relieved and guess what A PMR was working office. Funny how they can change rules. Sad we try to do our best work wherever we are told and needed then just told you are no longer wanted. Pray they get honest people to run the Postal service and it goes back to the way it used to be run by responsible intelligent caring personnel that knew what they were doing.
09:05 PM ET (US)
Yes, but depends. Some districts take your badge and remove you right away from rolls. The exam can be taken again in 6 months. Technically they are not to let you work. I have heard of some districts being very slow to remove the PSE.
08:21 PM ET (US)
I have been a PSE at an office that is only open for four hours a day. I just took and failed the 421 exam. What happens now do I loose my job?
05:14 PM ET (US)
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
04:58 PM ET (US)
Are you still on the rolls?
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