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Eric Potter
07-11-2009
12:54 PM ET (US)
Hello,
   I am still hoping to hear a response from "liberty 4 all" in regards to my recent questions. I appreciate Ms. Hohensee's response, but would like to challenge Liberty 4 all to answer.
Thank you,
Eric Potter
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Doris Hohensee
07-01-2009
06:54 PM ET (US)
No. Parents have directed the education of their children without government oversight until very recently. A large number
of states continue to allow parents the right to direct the
education of their children without interference or oversight.

Home education laws that restrict parental rights are quite new.
Most of these laws were enacted in the 1980's as parents
feared continued state harassment without an explicit law
allowing them to teach their children at home. Most of these
laws were written with the help of HSLDA and are quite
inequitable.

On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:26 PM, QT - Eric Potter wrote:
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> 3) Do you not realize that we have been operating under the
> premises of an implicit "fundamental right" for the life of our
> country which has been protected by the US Supreme Court? The
> currently proposed amendment freezes things as they are and
> offers a possiblity to regain our rights already lost.
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Eric Potter
07-01-2009
04:26 PM ET (US)
Hello,
   I want to eventually respond to all of the articles referenced, but I only have time to respond to the "Revive the Republic" article quickly.
   What this article is advocating is an "absolute" right of parents. I have a few questions: 1) Do we want an absolute right? The article even notes that unless abuse occurs, we are free to raise our children as we want. Therefore, he advocates a non-absolute, absolute right. 2) So you advocate fighting 50 state battles, which could be collectively overturned by a constitutional amendment or thwarted by the federal checkbook i.e. federal legistlation requiring outlawing of home schooling or forfeit federal education money. What is your plan for winning these state battles?
3) Do you not realize that we have been operating under the premises of an implicit "fundamental right" for the life of our country which has been protected by the US Supreme Court? The currently proposed amendment freezes things as they are and offers a possiblity to regain our rights already lost. 4) Exactly how do we convince enough of the populace that an absolute right is necessary when many don't even buy into the fundamental right because they think it is too strong?
   I need to examine further the proposed legistlation linked in this document, but am not convinced by the argument so far. I will continue to investigate this issue and continue to post here with my further thoughts.
Thank you,
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liberty 4 all
06-29-2009
11:39 PM ET (US)
Home Education Magazine has a regular column, titled “Taking Charge”, which is written by Larry and Susan Kaseman. It is always worthwhile reading!

Here are 3 of their articles that pertain to this matter:

http://homeedmag.com/HEM/253/takingcharge.html
May - June, 2008
Taking Charge - Larry and Susan Kaseman
Can a Constitutional Amendment Protect Parental Rights?

http://www.homeedmag.com/HEM/166/nd_clmn_tch.html
November-December 1999 - Columns
Taking Charge
Convincing Others We Don't Want Homeschooling Legislation - Larry and Susan Kaseman

http://www.homeedmag.com/HEM/HEM154.98/154.98_clmn_tkch.html
July-August 1998 - Columns
Taking Charge - Larry and Susan Kaseman
Responding to Current Legislative Challenges Promoted by National Organizations
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liberty 4 all
06-29-2009
11:35 PM ET (US)
Readers/Posters on this thread will want to check out the following:

http://www.revivetherepublic.com/a_constit...parental_rights.htm
A Constitutional Amendment to Support Parental Rights?
by Kerry L. Morgan
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Karen
05-27-2009
08:53 PM ET (US)
Eric,
Check out information at http://hsislegal.com/ This site contains info on HSLDA.
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Doris Hohensee
05-26-2009
03:10 PM ET (US)
Eric:

Education has not been ceded to the state government. Witness the existence of non-public, private education. You do not understand inalienable rights if you can claim that they are not firm enough ground upon which to stand. I find that disturbing for a student of law.

In 1991 I drafted the first Parental Rights legislation, which HSLDA opposed. Then HSLDA turned around and tried to enact federal
legislation with their own defective version of the PRA. My amendment was to the NH Constitution; it read "No man shall be compelled to send his child to any school to which he may be conscientiously opposed." I was modeled on the Kentucky amendment which affords parents the right to home school without state oversight. A parent need only affirm his opposition to public school; HSLDA insists that parents would have to prove conscientious objection since they failed to read the background of the KY amendment. Imo HSLDA opposed my PRA because they oppose inalienable rights of conscience. They prefer to support restricted religious rights for those individuals belonging to state approved churches.

Hs'ers in many states have had problems with HSLDA.

Doris

On May 22, 2009, at 10:23 PM, QT - Eric Potter wrote:

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