Now that they have failed and are exposed, let the denial begin.

Wow, you guys are really quick to make assumptions about what the 'leaders' you so 'cleverly' discovered people's backgrounds are, that of privilege and support from well off parents, let alone even knowing the nature of their involvement and relationship to those who were responsible for the violent segments of the protests. I know at least one of these 'losers' worked 60 hours a week at two jobs to support herself all while pursuing a graduate degree full time. This person also grew up in a single parent household and received no financial help for university, either at the bachelor level or the graduate level from any family member. Nor did this person have any connection or sympathy for the violent elements during the convention. Neither would this person ever describe themselves as an anarchist. Just wanted to add a few shades of gray to this conversation. Have a lovely day.

Don't take it personal if the citizen majority choose to be against your protest.

Isn't this like the freedom you seek for everyone?

Or do you hate it when our free country have laws that you can't abide by.

Oh well, we all have to learn to live within the law.
Which means I can't slap you all up side your heads, even though I would like to.

Probably our laws are a good thing, but sometimes I wonder about this myself.

Thanks guys, for letting the world see the kind of disrepectful people you are, who want change.
I think your actions may have actually boosted the Republicans cause.
Yet, I wonder if you'd prefer it, if everyone were to get up tomorrow and run a muck, like you, turning over dumpsters and acting a fool.
No, better yet, maybe you should try studying something about social behavior and/or philosophy.

One thing about it though, in the end, your point was mute and you hurt yourselves more than anyone.

You dumb shits! A bunch of over-priviledged suburban white kids who have shit for brains. I think those cops treated you well. I wouldn't have been so kind. I'm Laughing my ass off.

Think of all the career choices you free thinkers just threw out the window.

But it was all worth it, Right?

Oh well, some people's children.

At least we now have your name and number.

you people were too damnded easy to "infiltrate"- Geting a nice check to play pretend anarchist and report to the authorities what the plans are- when and where-- gee how did the authorities know where to find you (us)??
 sheesh... anarchists with rules LOL.

Damn whatsnext....where do you find this stuff? Wouldn't want to be them connected to a bunch of terroristic actions in St. Paul, and especially with all of their information posted....And yes...definitely a rich/privileaged trend...Playing activist on a holiday. Sounds like something a person at a private school could get kicked out for....hmmmmm..

Today has been a really sad day in Minnesota. I don't understand the purpose of this violence and destruction? It makes absolutly no sense. Blocking traffic, smashing windows, assaulting others also voicing their free-speech? Just so you think about something other than yourselves, when roads are blocked that means no one can get through including EMERGENCY vehicles with DYING people trying to get to a hospital (and can't).

I think these individuals are worse than anything else, Many people have something to say and are passionate about their views these few whackos have taken the focus off important topics and put many, many people in harms way!

I want to thank all of the officers and soldiers for trying to keep us safe!!!!! God Bless you!

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To all you good people,

These "protesters" and self-proclaimed anarachists making asses of themselves in our streets by senselesly breaking windows, parking cars in intersections, and assaulting police officers that risk their lives providing the freedom they take for granted HIDE behind the anonymity of the internet!

Why don't they tell us who they are? Aren't you curious? I was. So, I spent a little time tracking a few down. Didn't take long at all! Stop posting here and start calling them, call their parents, call their work, call their ministers, or send them an email! Many points of contact can be found through just a LITTLE Googling. I've posted a few of the losers here, but there are many many more and I encourage you to out them.

Here are a few of the so-called "leaders":

Lacey Prpic Hedtke
A student at the College of St. Catherine! Shocking! It's a spoiled rich kid! You can see a picture of her here:
http://www.bobcatsss2008.org/programme/speakers/240.en.html
Her personal email address: polkaostrich@gmail.com
Send her an email... let her know what you think of her work in St. Paul.

Anne Mostad-Jensen
Circulation Assitant at University of St. Thomas library
(that's an awfully nice school for an Anarchist... hope that's not her capitalist parent's money paying for that higher education)
Email her at work at acmostadjens@stthomas.edu
...or call her at work at (651)962-5494.
And with a name like this, I imagine you could find her parents fairly easily. Perhaps a call to mommy and daddy would cut off funding for this little brat. My money is on her embracing capitalism once her allowance runs out.

Wanda Marsolek
Originally from small town Whitehall, Wisconsin
Once (and maybe still) a clerk at Woodbury Library. Try her there at 651-731-1320. Or, call and leave a message for her at her job at the University of Minnesota at (612)626-0585.

Kristina Darnell
Couldn't find any contact info for her directly, but she is on facebook and here's the contact info for her minister... perhaps we could encourage some devine intervention. Call or email Reverand Kendyl Gibbons at (612)377-6608 x116 or minister@firstunitariansociety.org

Sanden Totten
Assistant Producer for Minnesota Public Radio
Graduated from Oberlin College in psychology and English
That school's site lists cost of $40k per year.
Just another spoiled rich kid.
Email him at work! stotten@mpr.org

Paul Schmelzer
Graduate of St John's University. Anyone seeing a spoiled rich-kid trend?
You go to the source and comment on his blog here: http://eyeteeth.blogspot.com/
You can also see evidence of his involvement here:
http://twitter.com/schmelzenfreude
He has worked with Twin Cities Public Television. Call and let them know that pledging won't happen as long as they work with this head case. Reach them at (612)222-1717.

Stop posting here where they will ignore you and start directing your energy where it will make a difference.

Sure are alot of links on this page. That is how you make money with a website..... Right? The anarchist's are capitalist..... Hmmm.... I'm not rich enough or poor enough to be a Democrat. I work for a living and am tired of paying for welfare and luxury. I don't know who runs this site , but I'm sure they were not in Minneapolis tonight. They were sitting home counting web hits and money.

what a pathetic ass backwards group of people. you should thank our GOD and soldiers every minute of every day for giving u HIPPIE ass BUM loser REJECTS an opporutnity. You would be shot in most countries.

why would an anti-authoritarian anarchist group employ lawyers (who are licensed by the very state they rail against) and the authority of the courts to help them out of their legal woes. Wouldn't that be against an anarchists stance? Methinks the RNC Welcoming Committee might be a tad bit hypocritical.

Edited by author 09-02-2008 12:11 AM
American: I don't want to be free tonight... let's meet up in downtown ST. Paul. You and I can spend the night in jail after we beat up a newspaper box (that's real smart). Then when the media asks us what we want... just say "F***-you" and walk away. Great answer from some real smart idiots.

Who do you guys think you are coming and disturbing one of the most peaceful cities in the u.s.? I mean seriously? You guys are just a bunch of bums and hippies which means the majority of you are most likely unemployed and you think you can just show up and start breaking and attacking stuff? What are you trying to prove? You just end up making yourself look bad and you accomplish nothing.

... because they are nuts!

This really shows us which party has all the head cases voting for them...

The sad part is we had no opportunity to talk with an anarchist tonight cause they are either all locked up or dam cowards! I will go with both! Good Night!

...and if they get really mad they take a mailbox and right naughty words on it with a sharpie!!! Ooooh! Scary!

I'm free to watch a great game between UCLA and Tenn goign into overtime!! LOL!! I love this country!

Those recycling bins better mind their p's and q's or they'll be next!

I mean I don't support Republicans, but I don't feel like beating them up. Geez!

Hey you idiots that acted like well...idiots and were arrested on felony charges....read this.....Oh yea, I,m free and your in jail where you belong. While I'm FREE at work and paying taxes for your court appearance I hope when all is said and done in a few months. The judge gives you many long hours of community service maybe cleaning up cities or military bases.
Oh yea, what are you doing now?
I'm eating a steak drikin' a brew living in freedom in my own house that I bought and paid for. You? how's jail?????

LOL!!! Hahahahaa! Dam trash can!! You traitor!!!!! LOL!!

One would think that the likes of Bill Ayers showed how ignorant and destructive this kind of behaviour can be. It's obvious this is a bunch of punk kids that think they know something. Do yourselves a favor, since you live off mommy and daddy, why don't you get your ass back in school and do something useful with your useless little lives...Morons...

The trash can was getting kickbacks from the big oil companies.

Hey! In there defense the reflection on the Macy's window was worth throwing something at!

That trash can won't look at them funny anymore! That's for sure!

They sure showed that window at Macy's who's boss!

What have these idiot Anarchist solved today!?! Get a life!

Anarchist, POP quiz! Name one country where Anarchy actually worked?

I agree with both of you (Kimberly and DrGraffin). My thought is that it's one thing to peacefully protest, but another to have it involve violence and destruction. It's childish, irresponsible, a waste of time and most of all not needed here in this country!

Skills? What skills? These are just a bunch of thugs who think by being violent they can make a change. I say throw them in Guantanamo Bay to understand what it really feels like to have no freedoms. Dam thugs!

  The RNCWC suggest that their actions attempt to initiate some sort of change. Why is it that they don't attempt establish their own businesses based and run off of their own ideals, then as a functioning/valued part of community attempt to infiltrate this "system" they supposedly despise, with hopes of rewriting the "rule book?" I'll tell you why. They are lazy. It's always a hundred times easier to attempt to take something from others than to work for it yourself. It's always easier put down the successes of others, than to legitimately work for yourself so you can hope to emulate the success you supposedly hate.
  And the thing is once again, I'm not even a Republican. If I vote, I'd vote for Obama, simply because the alternative to voting for him is horrifying.
  Once again though, RNCWC please stop "helping" the community. Your group is the definition of selfish-Taking and doing what you want with disregard for how your actions affect others. Grow up. Get an education. Pay your dues. Use your skills to add something of value to the community. Become a part of the system so you can change it if you don't like it. The only obstacle to any of this, are yourselves, and a self-defeating attitude that everyone is against you and somehow you can't win playing by the rules. That is BS and attitude of the lazy and uneducated.

I agree voiceofreason. It disgusts me that these people live in this country and enjoy the freedom to do this crap.

"At one point, people pushed a trash bin filled with trash and threw garbage in the streets and at cars. They also took down orange detour road signs. One of them used a screwdriver to puncture the back tire of a limousine waiting at an intersection and threw a wooden board at the vehicle, denting its side. Another hurled a glass bottle at a charter bus that had stopped at an intersection. The bottle smashed into pieces but didn't appear to damage the bus."

Is this acting like a responsible adult American? If I were a judge and any of these protestors were to show up in my courtroom, I would have NO sympathy for them! They would be held liable for all such actions mostly because this shows that they are a threat to society! Innocent people hurt by any protestor is a crime! If you wish to protest, do it peacefully, not this way!

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this really reminds me of how the nazi movement began with a guy who was pissed with his government and brainwashed alot of people into terrorising germany and dont let me forget a second world war. you people are the shitstain on america's underware. you should be taken and shot or better yet beheaded like the old days in france so that everyone can see what a mockery of america you are. take your anarchism and shove it up your ass!!!!!!!!

You guys look like complete morons. Why don't you spend your time and energy changing our politics through participation. What is funny to me is that you are discrediting the peaceful protesters that actually have a message through your immature and radical acts.

Dont want rules? You could always head to a country with none. They seem to be doing pretty good right now. NOT.

I'm giving free hugs to any Anarchist who want them.

You who are anarchists and anti-authoritarian should all be sent to outer space. There you can live 'freely' as you wish. Because I'm sorry to say but as long as you are living here in America (USA), we NEED a system of rules and government. It may not be perfect, but it's what we have right now. Things will change over time. But to go out and protest and cause trouble, like spraying people with chemicals and trying to steal their IDs is absolutely rediculous and childish!!! Be adults! Act like adults! Find other ways to bring out your concerns! Listen to the voice of reason!

All I know is if I was just minding my own business and some idiot scrawny stoner in black threw a brick at my car over some Republicans it would be very hard for me not to lay him out hard! LOL!

Nice retort reason. Based on logical thinking and intellect...lol.

You guys are fucking idiots

JT: I really don't think if (I hope) Sen MCain wins or your guy Sen. Obama wins I don't see major changes happening in the country. True, Sen Obama brings excitement to the "Dems" but his ideas aren't much different than William Jefferson Clinton. What make the USA thrive is people like you, me, Kimberly GA believing in the USA and realizing the idiots in St. Paul busting up the town are not true American citizens.
Take care JTT

Read number 1!!!!! This is translation for we have weed and will smoke you out if you need some! HAHAHAHA! These guys are idiots! Geez! When will this end!!!!

What the Welcoming Committee is doing:
1. Logistical support – We will organize legal support, housing, food, transportation, and a convergence space as well as anything else you may need to make our collective actions successful.

Read #4 of this code of ethics they have on this site! I think I'm gana crap my pants laughing at the hipocracy and the way they screwed that up bad!!!HAHAHAHAHA!!!

4. Be inclusive of local communities and respect alliances – We are all on the same side of the barricades and are trying to build lasting bonds for future mutual aid. We may not agree with each other on all of our tactics, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t venues for us to work together and build on the trust and community that already exists.

Dr G, now that hit it right on the dot. I guess this means you won't be donating to this website. I wish I could donate some common sense to the organization.

Today having witnessed first hand the self-justified thuggery of the RNCWC, I find myself wondering how the RNCWC as a whole can attempt to describe themselves in any other terms other than their actions? Vandalizing property in a community you proclaim to respect, come on??? Attempting to silence the voices and opinions of those with whom you differ? Give me a break RNCWC!!
  If you happen to read their literature it is a highly reminiscent of most cult literature available-That is the meaning and message of what they write and outline is highly evasive and hypocritical.
  To close, I'm neither a Republican or a Democrat, though I do believe almost anything could be better than another 8 years of what we've had. While I might classify myself as a nonaffliated voter, it's obvious the RNCWC are nothing but hardcore Democrats looking for any excuse to commit crime and attempt to intimidate others. If not, why not a demonstration of equal significance at the DNC? They may refer me to their FAQ section of their site to address this question, but simply their supporting material regarding this question is weak. Remember, if you're going to talk the talk, walk the walk.

Abwahahahaa!!! Let's grab 20 people and stage a wana be L.A. Riot!!! WHO's WITH ME!!?!?!?!?!??!!!! BAWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

AAAARGH!! Let's break this constitutionally protected disussion thread up, throw rocks and beat up it's 80 year old members!!!!! I'm feeling cool!! What should we name ourselves!!! I know!!! Anarchist!!! BAWAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Can we meet your parents? Just want to thank them for screwing up your brains and not giving a crap about it while thinking sending you to college with a bank account will solve all problems. When will this world learn? It goes in order like this and your kids won't grow up to be idiot anarchist with no jobs. GOD, family and than baseball!

Highly doubt they are R......they are the types that like to whine but do nothing but make it worse. Probably a bunch of stoned idiots with 2 brain cells left.

Thanks to all of you who are trying to highlight the illegal raids and intimidation. Just one request. I saw a video and read a report in which the Sheriff supposedly confiscated guns. I don't see any debunking of this particular claim.
 While I know that some place priority on solidarity, I think it is important to clarify whether this particular group actually was planning vilenece, whether the group itself is a bunch of agents provacateurs, or whether the police are just planting evidence. Hopefully it is false information (though I think they displayed photos in one video I saw on the web).

THIS REPROT
By HERON MARQUEZ ESTRADA, BILL M c AULIFFE and ABBY SIMONS

Last update: August 31, 2008 - 12:43 PM

"On Saturday afternoon, he displayed a number of the confiscated items: a gun, throwing knives, a bow and arrows, flammable liquids, paint, slingshots, rocks and buckets of urine."

The one I am concerned about is the gun because, if true, it can be used to tar any radical group that goes beyond non violent vigils but does not advocate use of weapons. Hopefully this is just policre provacataion and planting of evidence, but I think it should be addressed, because it surely will be seized upon by the right and homeland security types.

Thanks,

A Japan IndyMedia volunteer
http://japan.indymedia.org

Well that's because I have an open mind Greg. Starting violence to disrupt either parties convention is against everything constitutional and just makes you look like an idiot. Just because you don't agree with someones political views doesn't mean you have to do stupid crap to get your point across. I bet most of these idiots are Chavez supporters that have Che flags in their rooms.

I just saw a clip on the news of what happened today. It is sad that people feel destroying property is going to make a point. All it did was make you look stupid and ignorant. Why not join the peaceful protest? Why do the actions that you are doing? What point are you making? I hate the republican party, but seriously what does destroying shit do? Are you even registered to vote?

Agreed, our world is a mess right now. It would be nice seeing people make it better, not worse.

True Anarchist is right. I'm not by any means a supporter of anarchy, but theses guys are just far far left morons that listen to too much Rage Against the Machine, and probably slap each other in the ass too much in the shower. I agree the whole government is to blame, not just one branch.

I'm a Republican, JT, Thanks. See, you "Dems" are,t so bad.

Take off the masks cowards!!! A bunch of scrawny white college dorks with bandanas over there faces...oooohh, scary.

Are you kidding? You call destroying trying to do something. No one will listen to you after hurting an old man and destroying things. Go get a job. I know you are more than likely little rich brats or useless people that don't want to act like real Americans. You don't like it? Get out. I'm sure the terrorists will bring you on.

God bless you Fred and Amen. Couldn't put it better myself.

I'm a Democrat, and I have to say you guys are a bunch of fags. Anarchist are worthless pieces of shit that should all die in a scorching fire.

I visiting St Paul to protest the death of my family by US military in Iraq. You flat my tires and break my window. Thanks. You Americans all alike.

Wow! I really don't have to say much to the RNC Welcoming Committee that they don't already know. Sounds like a bunch of Midwestern spoiled college brats with an education in some University, but obvoiusly no street smarts? Shouldn't you all be taken these frustrations out on your own parents? You don't like governments? Here's an idea, move to Afghanastan where everyone else there feels the same! Oh no, but that may help you realize what a great government we have here! We wouldn't want that now would we? One that keeps idiots like the RNC welcoming committee and there Anarchist friends in check. Without our government inocent people would be ruled by idiots like yourself. Try watching the movie "Idiocracy" and you will see your dream is already on the big screen. Good luck on your mission to idiocracy! Geez, just when you think things have calmed down the spoiled brats show up.

Do you people think your making a point? Your not, your just destroing stuff thats not yours,(violent protests). The people of the Twin Cities have opened up their cities to all you people, and you people just march and destroy property to prove a stupied point. All you anarchists are RETARDS!!! GET A REAKIN LIFE!!! And get out of our great state of MInnesota where people are nice to other people.

jdre......da

wow so much anger and hate. let's hear more constructive critique, less idiocy.

I thought capturing a cop car and damaging it (you did NOT total it: nice restraint!) was sooo graphic. Well done!

At several triangle parks in the city you ran the well armored cops ragged. Anarchists move left ten feet; squad of cops marches to the end of the block. Anarchists roll right ten steps, another squad of cops jogs a block. And your dance at the Landmark center was love in the face of rage. Well done.

Why don't u protesters find something productive to do..... like find a job, work and pay taxes.... Gee, that really sounds like a novel idea. You want to end a war but your actions promote violence. Whoever is in charge of you lil' ol' group should take ethics 101 in kindegarten

onelove - In case you haven't noticed, the national media hasn't covered the protest. The local media has, but they've also pointed out the fact that the police are dealing with criminals and they're arresting a shitload of them. In fact, they've done a fabulous job of showing the heroism of the cops. This is quite contrary to the biased reports that the independent media has produced. How does this kind of attention help the peaceful revolution that you support?

You "anarchist" fools are such pathetic losers. I hope the cops give you the "justice" you deserve.

You guys are f---in morons more like the hippy movement. NEWS flash dumshits the WHOLE government is at fault not one party or the other. But guess its easier for u guys to blame one party, u are such cowards.
Real true anarchist is anti government control no matter the party. What a bunch and damn idiots you all are.

Maybe someday you will get the concept of what anarchy really means. YES our government suxs but in the government is democrates you morons and our troubles go further back than Bush years. Man I cant believe the ignorance of this group.

Edited by author 09-01-2008 08:57 PM
i support peaceful protest, but kudos to the rncwc for their success in being so organized and commited. its about time that the whisper of revolution in this country gets louder and more present. i love seeing pictures of protestors sprinkled within the shots of laura bush at the convention. a little taste of reality for the evening news.

You guys are f---in morons more like the hippy movement. NEWS flash dumshits the WHOLE government is at fault not one party or the other. But guess its easier for u guys to blame one party, u are such cowards.
Real true anarchist is anti government control no matter the party. What a bunch and damn idiots you all are.

What a worthless website.

you are not helping your own cause. It's too bad there is no educated individuals in your group who have studied history.

LMAO! You are all talk. You show up and think your numbers will do something and all over the news you are running like cowards, getting tackled by the police. Lets not forget the plan to block the roads so the buses cant get through. What a laughing stock the police, troops, media, and your own cowardice has made you all.

This is great, I love all of the supportive posts, oh wait, there are none! Why were the republicans selected rather than the democrats? They are the ones in favor of bigger government anyhow you MORONS! Do the world a favor and just kill yourselves so some poor police officer does not have to lose any sleep over doing it for me.

YOU ARE ALL COWARDS! SMASHING WINDOW, SLASHING TIRES HARMING INNOCENT PEOPLE, YOU ARE ALL IGNORANT COWARDS.

I DON'T WANT ANY HARM DONE TO YOU BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT YOU IN THE COUNTRY FOR WHICH MY DAD SACRIFICED HIS LIFE. YOU DON'T BELONG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

I"m sure hoping as many of the "Welcoming Committee" are killed by police and national guard as possible. If you are laying down on the interstate intrance ramp when I"m driving my truck, I WILL run over you and laugh at the results.

Oh, and by the way. The brave men and women of the U.S. Military liberated Iraq and won the war. How ironic that the former terrorist stronghold, the Anbar Province, was with great pride transferred over to Iraqi authorities today. (Yes - we have won! And you'll never be able to do anything to lose the war at this point.)

The people of Iraq want nothing to do with depraved anarchists such as yourselves. Even if you could turn the clock back and attempt to lose the war, you'd be run out of Iraq by it's citizens faster than they eliminated your Al Qaida buddies.

And the reward for your efforts?? 8 years of McCain followed by 2 more terms of Palin.

Treating them as criminals? They busted the windows of businesses, disrupted transportation, intimidated people and assaulted cops. They ARE criminals. If they truly wanted people to listen to their ideas, do you think they have accomplished that goal? No, their own actions have determined that there's nothing to listen to.

is busting rich kids with leftist leaning ideas more important than keeping real crime down? is busting up lawfully gathered citizens more important than having discussions on the issues they bring up?

worrying about these kids as being "domestic terrorists" and their voice shows that too many people are just to afraid to hear anything but their own ideas. treating demonstrators like criminals shows me how afraid this soicety is of really opening itself up to the morals and liberties that this country, as an idea, should respond to.

So I woke this morning and had a brillaint idea, how about I march on St. Paul (well within my right as an American Citizen - thank you military). How about I drop nails on the ground in an effort to puncture tires, destroy other peoples property, and possibly hurt innocent people. I will drag dumpsters, garbage cans, bike racks, newspaper boxes, and whatever else I can get my unwashed hands on into the street. I could then break windows on buildings and police squad cars in my way (way to go you really um proved your point). Good idea!

Then those brutal police...wow what can I say... they would not have been in force the way they were had it not been for the promises of 'storming', 'disrupting', or 'welcoming of the RNC'.

And thanks for blocking the roadway leading to St. Paul's major trauma hospital.... at least you brainchildren had the courtesy to move out of the way for the ambulances. O wait some of those are a product of our mean mean government, you better throw your nails in front of their tires as well.

RADICALS-be sure not to call your local police department in case of an emergency, they may turn you into a popscile with their batons... For people who claim to be so enlightened you as a whole will not accept others ideas if they differ from yours... where can I sign up to be brainwashed?

Your group has done nothing but damage the cause. I'm am distraught and disappointed by the actions of this group over the course of the day. Violence to protest war. You're no better than the government sending the troops over seas. You should be ashamed at yourselves.

Also, if you really cared for your cause, you wouldn't be afriad to show your faces. The masks show that you are only interested in causing destruction with a cause as a front. If you really believed in your "cause" you wouldn't destroy the property of innocent business owners, or property funded by tax payers. You are ridiculous.

My God! These people are a bunch of little white pussies. Their passion for whatever "cause" they pretend to have will dry up as soon as they stop getting money from home. They're not "anarchists", they're mixed up children. Yesterday, half of them were wearing eye make-up and cutting themselves with razors because they thought that was deep. I hope the cops bash their pathetic little skulls in like they did to the sissies at the 1968 DNC in Chicago. These people are laughable.

Yoy people are nothing but fucking idiots who should all be in jail!!!!!

Edited by author 09-01-2008 05:48 PM
LOL Police responded to the protests with tear gas and riot gear. What did you think was gonna happen? People in our society are not persuaded by violence, because the majority of Americans allow the political process to work. This is not the Middle East, Africa or the Balkans. We are not extremist with Ak-47's. We don't condone swift changes in Government, and we don't condone murder, assualt or vandalism. When are you guys going to learn that Libertarians, Republicans, and most tree hugging hippies on the Left, will never allow your movement to ever gain any ground. I despise people who try to force others through fear, into siding with them.

Edited by author 09-01-2008 05:32 PM
post 113 ----- ooooo What a witty eggheaded sounding post. You sir are apparently much smarter than the rest of of ankle grabbers. Why don't you suck my (uber) penis.

What a bunch of little faggots. Do these punks think it's deep to wear black and hate their parents? They need to go back to their suburban homes, sit in front of the computer in their parent's basements and whack off like the losers they are. How utterly pathetic.

EEB:

Try it on someone I know that would be non violent, and it will be pepper spray coctails you drink, and a baton turning the perpetrator into a human popsiscle when its stuck up their ass.

Raise a glass to pepper spray, billy clubs, and TASERs! It's time for a lesson in Civics.

You fucking liberals are crazier than ever. Collecting gallons of urine. Put down your dope; the 60-70-s are GONE and get a fucking JOB instead.

ha ha -you idiots got busted, commie rat losers. Why is it that you freedom loving/ free speech touting morons don't believe in freedom for anyone else? You folk are nothing but a bunch of Nazis. Please Drop dead of AIDs soon.

You people do realize that when you participate in an illegal protest that you are jeopardizing your options for the future. If you do not, then I suggest that you please take this into consideration. You must also realize that you are also adding to the unrest of your country and that adding to unrest, is not the same as taking a positive stance. Disrupting any legal process only throws fuel on the fires that you seek to put out and it also shines a very negative light on your cause. If political answers are what you seek, educate yourselves and bring about the changes that you desire, not through anarchy (because this will fail you), but rather through deplomacy. The beauty of it is, you live in a country that allows you this opportunity. In fact, our men in uniform are those who protect these rights for you. Please, I ask you to stop and asked yourselves, Do you really believe that a nation of free men and women could possibly allow any big business or our government to go unchecked and bring us to an unwanted end? We're not blind sheeple. The changes that are needed will come about. So, even though you are pumped and ready to protest... You should stop, think of your future and then reorganize to work for the good of this nation through legal groups and commitees, because disruptive operations are just that... disruptive, not only for society, but for you as well.

Seriously, without government (and police), where would an anarchist be? Still in their parents basement but certainly not safe. It has to be tough, being named Ian (later changing it to Rainwater or Truthseer), smelling like crap, enduring numerous schoolyard beatings. Without the cops, the schoolyard beatings they endured as children would most certainly begin again.

I wish one of you punks would throw some urine on me LOL I would stomp the living shit out of you for doing that. How is that for a little anarchism.

Anarchists don't want to destroy society, because what would become of them? What new form of existence would replace the one they hate so much? I mean humans have always formed societies. What are you going to do? Keep destroying society, until the perfect one is created? There is no perfect society, because there is no perfect human being. That is why communism failed, that is why the poor get over looked in capitalist societies. Men like Aristotle, Plato, Karl Marx, Nietzsche, John Locke, Rousseau, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, Julius Caesar....etc etc etc. All, the great men and (women not excluded), have debated the issue of government's role in society. Maybe, Anarchist have forgotten one simple truth about mankind, we are social creatures and we have always banded together to construct system of living. Nothing can change that, you can't brainwash mankind into believing that what is natural to us is wrong, because certain things in life are unfair or unjust. There is very little fair in politics, and very little that is perfectly true for all parts of society.

Re: Post #103

So, the anarchists planning and executing property damage, criminal theft and assault are really good people, but you're afraid of the free speech you see in this discussion forum ... did we forget to take our little happy pills today?

Edited by author 09-01-2008 03:19 AM
HumanF, I can't imagine a person could be "good" or "concerned" and still be dead wrong or a criminal. What does their disposition with you (likely liberal) have to do with whether they are hypocritical, misguided, or even criminal? Regarding Herodotus, was it his conclusion or was it told to him? I can see why he would be considered a hero, he had his own version of history.

I had some discussion group experience with these idiot anarchists in the last presidential election. I made the mistake of assuming that they were psychologically sound, intellectually competent and at least microbially compassionate ... NOT!

When I presented a non-partisan opinion on why it is theft (and therefore wrong) to tap into electricity sources belonging to corporations and city governments, I was called a Freeper Maggot by some loser activist who tried to have me booted from the discussion ... simply because I'm a Republican.

These anarchists are angry, unemployed, intellectually destitute and criminal minded. They're useless parasites sucking blood from humanity and they deserve to be placed on an island with each other and left to cannibalize without the amenities they seem to abhor (like food, transportation and public safety services they readily consume, but never pay for).

Don't waste your energy getting frustrated with these troublemakers ... they're too radical to be called Democrats and they don't have the character to be called Republicans. Hmmm, they must be University of Colorado dropouts.

LONG LIVE GEORGE BUSH AND RUSH LIMBAUGH!

You people need to get a life! Bunch of protesting hippies! And just what were you planning on doing with so much urine? Sick.

ELECT MCCAIN 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ummm Gerald, in all the rhetoric you just spouted. You didn't say a fucking thing. And, uhhh, that quote about the Greeks? what the hell does that have to with anything? That story was about honorable men that lived by the Warrior Code and Warrior Ethos. Those Greeks were fighting for a King, a system, a hierarchy. Funny how a moron like you would post a quote like that, when you obviously know nothing about it. But you posted because it sounded cool, and you thought it would back up your little point about not being a slave to corporate america. What has Anarchy America done for society lately??? I bet that computer you posted that message with wasn't made by an Anarchist LOL It was assembled by workers and sold by a salesman. Both capatalist giving into the invisible hand of greed (adam smith) Greed, made society better, not being an anarchist.

Anarchy would be a perfect situation.....if the world population were 1.
The hypocrisy and contradictions in your "mission" are absolutely stunning. I think any 3 year old who could write a more coherent and feasible political statement.
Morons.

3. Organize on the principles of decentralization, autonomy, sustainability, and mutual aid;

4. Work to end all relationships of domination and subjugation, including but not limited to those rooted in patriarchy, race, class, and homophobia;

5. Oppose the police and prison-industrial complex, and maintain solidarity with all targets of state repression;

6. Directly confront systems of oppression, and respect the need for a diversity of tactics.

Look at some of these moron's rules for membership into their little group.
Basically, they want criminals to be set free LOL They want men to be subserviant to women LOL They want a society with chaos, no laws or jurisprudence of any kind LOL So that means you can kill someone for no reason and get away with it..LOL Basically, they want society to become lawless, roaming bands of criminals, living a hand to mouth existence, with no reason to exist, except to serve your own needs. Oh? But wait, you want to end all systems of oppression, but yet you have pretty much labeled any part of modern day society as oppressive. Except for people who think like you???? hhmmmmm, what a bunch of closed minded, hierarchy seeking, bias, assholes. You have the audacity to call your way of thinking true freedom, but yet, in your minds, the only true path to freedom is to live life as a mindless animal with no purpose.

Interesting contrast between the righteous indignation, violent anger, and simple-minded ignorance of these anti-welcoming committee writers, in comparison with the intelligence, humanity, and wisdom of HumanF (post 103).

Sad how the most virulent uber-patriots jabber and spout about "freedom" at the same time they're grabbing their ankles for the pleasure of their corporate masters. Like pathetic slaves kissing the knout they profess their obedience with every blow.

Herodotus concluded that the outnumbered Greeks were able to defeat the mighty Persian army because free men make better soldiers than slaves. Slaves obey. Free men create.

I was gonna say something but it looks like everyone else already beat me to the punch. Before you go tearing down the walls, you should first consider traveling overseas and seeing what they got. You might not realize it but you are fuckin lucky to be living in the USA. So before you go do your little protest think about it. As for the rest of you complaining at least they are being active if you support you should show up and support.

Why were you morons not at the Democratic National Convention protesting? I mean if government is the enemy, what the fuck do you think liberal democrats advocate? MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL and REGULATION. I do agree with that one person's post about College Campuses. They have become breeding grounds for left wing activism. If I was to label myself, definitely consider myself a Conservative. The funny thing is, on college campuses today you are not considered enlightened unless you are gay loving, left wing, big government supporting, guilt for minority having, radical. Don't even get me started on Anarchists and so-called intellectuals. I'm sick and tired of the liberal loving media. I'm sick and tired of being in college and being told my conservative views are backwards and misinformed; because they does not go along with the mainstream liberal ideology, that has swept American campuses. Republicans freed the slaves. Democrats were allied with the KKK after the Civil War. Democrats like Lyndon B. Johnson got us into Vietnam. Democrats like Jimmy Carter were too weak to stand up to Islam. Democrats want to attack prosperity, by taxing those who earned their wealth, and giving it to those who don't try to better themselves. And, then call that crap CHANGE. Wake up! You think taxing the rich is going to solve your problems? Are you morons that easily duped into voting for one of the oldest political cons out there? LOL anywayz, ive put my two cents in...later sheep.

These folks wouldn't know an anarchist if it was 10 ton safe and fell on them.

-B.E.

you all are damn idiots. i hope they call the u.s. army to take care of you stupid asses!! im proud of fighting for other peoples freedoms and i agree with what bush has done over there. i have been to iraq and fought for people who have nothing, and now they have hope and something worth living for because i made it safer for them to sleep and go to school and be someone in the world!! you guys are a disgrace to the country i defend and you all should go to heel and get the fuck out of my country. if your not proud of how america is governed and what we fight to give people who have less than us than leave this country. im proud to serve my country, the president, and fight for the poeple who have less than me!! i feel sorry that i put my life on the line for idiots such as yourselves!! get a life and keep the crying to yourselves. you guys will accomplish nothing at this convention as it will go on, it will be a success for them, and you guys will end up in jail and/or hurt because you will make rash and dumb decisions!

The "Tear It Down" mentality of these people is akin to the behavior of little children who have temper tantrums. I say 'let their fears be realized" and throw their collective ungrateful asses in the Hoosegow. Pathetic Losers.

You anarchists are a loony and desperate bunch... bunch of idiots! Do you not realize the kind of chaos that would ensue if there was no order? Have you ever watched a Mel Gibson "Road Warrior"/"Mad Max" movie, "Cyborg" with Van Damme, or any other post apocolyptic movie? Or how about just take a look at Afghanistan before the Taliban, or most of Africa, where thay are ruled by warlords. That is what an anarchaic society looks like, and it's full of tyranny, which will directly impede on your "free of authority" society.

BTW, how is securing our borders racist?

well the raids have begun and many have been arrested already. So far gallons of urine, kerosene and fireworks have been taken. It's been nice getting all the inside info from everyone. let the games begin you friggin loons we will lock everyone of you up if we have too.

Dear Nut Jobs,

   I was just reading your mission statement. What a bunch of losers you are! I hope the police club you guys to death. It won't be hard to spot you. You'll be the dirty smelly burn-outs smoking a joint carrying a water balloon full of deer urine. And it's not racist to secure our borders. You will accomplish little else than getting your teeth knocked out, inconviencing a few people going to the convention, pissing off a lot of cops, and stinking up the place. I'll watch the news and can't wait to see footage of the cops using nightsticks on your pea-sized brains. Hopefully a few of you get run over or blow yourselves up. What a bunch of losers! Move out of your mom's basement, stop smoking so much weed, shower at least every other day, pick the lice out of your hair, and get a fucking life! I didn't see you guys in Denver. What happened, pass by a Taco Bell and forgot what you were going to do after you ate about 14 tacos? Go smoke some hash and eat some ice cream. Your teeth will last longer!!

It probably won't do any good to point out that by trying to rain crude anarchy down on the "fear-mongers" of the GOP, you would be validating those very fears, thus giving them that much more political ammunition with which to frighten the voting populace..and helping push large numbers of undecided voters into casting ballots which ultimately help keep those very same fear-mongers in power.

Your passion is laudable, but misdirected, and the logic behind it is flawed. In exchange for a few moments of feel-good protest, you are shooting yourselves, and by extension, America and the world, in the foot.

g.

I just wonder how many have ever sat down and actually spoken to an anarchist. I live in Minneapolis and know a number of people on the RNC Welcoming Committee an they are good people, concerned people, perhaps not as passive and content about the state of things as most of you are, but to snipe at them from your computer armchairs is ridiculous. I am more afraid of the hatred I read in these posting than about anything the an anarchist might to at the RNC.

Edited by author 09-01-2008 12:13 AM
 Few things spook normal law-abiding, job-holding Americans more than a motley bunch of left-wing protesters. It's not just their politics that put us off -- it's their slovenly (often bizarre) dress, their bad grooming habits (or total lack of such), and most of all their obscenity-spouting anger, grim humorlessness, and smug self-importance. Just who are these foul-mouthed, foul-smelling characters clogging our streets and college campuses, protesting everything from globalization to genetically modified food to tax cuts? Now, ProtestWarrior's A Field Guide To Left-Wing Wackos, identifies and describes 18 common "species" of left-wing protesters, supplying witty definitions, vivid illustrations, identifying characteristics and behavior, "cries" (slogans), habitat, evolutionary origins, as well as thrilling (and hilarious) anecdotes of actual sightings.


** ANARCHISTS -- "It is not uncommon to find an anarchist carrying a cell phone in their Dickie's pant pocket. Like their fellow traveler Communists and Islamothugs, they have no problem using the technologies made possibly only by Western-style capitalism ... It has been hypothesized that anarchists are slowly becoming immune to tear gas and new, more powerful strains are evolving"




** COMMUNISTS -- "Communists are considered the Maytag repairmen of liberal protesters, few and far between but somehow still devoted to a lost cause. ... Handling Tips: Ask a communist who their favorite communist dictator is. Hard-pressed to think of one who hasn't been responsible for murdering thousands of dissidents, they will panic and begin to sputter about how communism has never been properly implemented."




** INTELLECTUALS -- "Since the 1960s, American universities have become the main breeding grounds and feeding troughs for Intellectuals. ... One of their most interesting behavior patterns is that they rarely make public statements about subjects in which they are trained. They make profound and sweeping statements about the global economy, human rights, the environment and international politics even though they teach linguistics or art history."


** COLLEGE STUDENTS -- "College Students feign a constant state of indignation – at the current administration, at corporations, at the racism and sexism pervading their college campuses. Many find relief in submitting letters to the editor of their campus paper... Other College Students who need a more tangible outlet for their progressive angst join or start student activist groups which purport to fight the injustice of sweatshops, defend union workers, or protect the environment and the rights of animals."


** HOLLYWOOD ACTIVISTS -- "A member of the Hollywood community elite who uses the capitalist fruits of wealth and fame to promote a socialist agenda. ...A typical public political statement given by a Hollywood Activist will glaringly contradict how they conduct their personal lives. For instance, a Hollywood Activist who is fervently anti-gun will employ a small army of armed guards to protect her life and property."


** BLACKTIVISTS -- "Blacktivists are very careful not to do anything that might cause them to be perceived as sellouts by other Blacktivists, and if they must watch Friends or