That sounds good.
Other than adding 'functioning' email link I don't think you could add anything more or make it more clear.
Sheri

Corrections in BOLD (I hope the Bold comes through)

QT - Debra Beheler wrote:
> --QT-------------------------------------------------------------
> Reply by email or visit
> http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/gr6sPnTbNCt/m18
> ------------------------------------------------------------- ---
>
> #1 1. Maintain your County website and keep it in good
> working order. All links should work and should be checked
> periodically. Your County site should be enhanced and updated
> *routinely* by adding additional data and information. Actual data
> should be added no less than twice yearly. Seeking appropriate
> data submissions by users of your county website is encouraged.
> Examples of data to be added may include, but *are* not limited to:
> Vital Records Indexes, such as, births, deaths, marriages or
> divorces; Court records, such as, wills, probate, land,
> guardianships, delayed birth records; adoption, bible records,
> biographies, cemeteries (information about & burial records or
> tombstone readings), census indexes or transcriptions, church
> records, directories, funeral home records, diaries, military
> indexes, county histories, newspaper articles, business records,
> naturalizations, obituaries, old settlers, & land owners.
> Visitors *must* have an easy way to contact you such as an email
> link or submission form.
>
> The only thing I would change on item #1 is the last line.
> Suggestion - "Your email address or a link to your contact page
> (with email address) *must* be prominently displayed on your
> entry or index page. *Email link may be visible for copying or a link*."
>


--

Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG



"In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general
government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter
cannot exist without them."

-- Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833)

Reference: Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 191.

Corrections in BOLD (I hope the Bold comes through)

QT - Debra Beheler wrote:
> --QT-------------------------------------------------------------
> Reply by email or visit
> http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/gr6sPnTbNCt/m18
> ------------------------------------------------------------- ---
>
> #1 1. Maintain your County website and keep it in good
> working order. All links should work and should be checked
> periodically. Your County site should be enhanced and updated
> *routinely* by adding additional data and information. Actual data
> should be added no less than twice yearly. Seeking appropriate
> data submissions by users of your county website is encouraged.
> Examples of data to be added may include, but *are* not limited to:
> Vital Records Indexes, such as, births, deaths, marriages or
> divorces; Court records, such as, wills, probate, land,
> guardianships, delayed birth records; adoption, bible records,
> biographies, cemeteries (information about & burial records or
> tombstone readings), census indexes or transcriptions, church
> records, directories, funeral home records, diaries, military
> indexes, county histories, newspaper articles, business records,
> naturalizations, obituaries, old settlers, & land owners.
> Visitors *must* have an easy way to contact you such as an email
> link or submission form.
>
> The only thing I would change on item #1 is the last line.
> Suggestion - "Your email address or a link to your contact page
> (with email address) *must* be prominently displayed on your
> entry or index page. *Email link may be visible for copying or a link*."
>


--

Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG



"In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general
government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter
cannot exist without them."

-- Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833)

Reference: Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 191.

QT - Debra Beheler wrote:
> --QT-------------------------------------------------------------
> Reply by email or visit
> http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/gr6sPnTbNCt/m17
> ------------------------------------------------------------- ---
>
> I propose that we change the name of the webpage from
> "Guidelines and Procedures" to "Requirements and Procedures".
>
> Guidelines is too vague and makes it sound like there is a
> choice as to whether they are followed or not.
I concur.

--

Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG



"In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general
government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter
cannot exist without them."

-- Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833)

Reference: Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 191.

#1 1. Maintain your County website and keep it in good working order. All links should work and should be checked periodically. Your County site should be enhanced and updated over time by adding additional data and information. Actual data should be added no less than twice yearly. Seeking appropriate data submissions by users of your county website is encouraged. Examples of data to be added may include, but is not limited to: Vital Records Indexes, such as, births, deaths, marriages or divorces; Court records, such as, wills, probate, land, guardianships, delayed birth records; adoption, bible records, biographies, cemeteries (information about & burial records or tombstone readings), census indexes or transcriptions, church records, directories, funeral home records, diaries, military indexes, county histories, newspaper articles, business records, naturalizations, obituaries, old settlers, & land owners. Visitors should have an easy way to contact you such as an email link or submission form.

The only thing I would change on item #1 is the last line. Suggestion - "Your email address or a link to your contact page (with email address) should be prominently displayed on your entry or index page."

I propose that we change the name of the webpage from "Guidelines and Procedures" to "Requirements and Procedures".

Guidelines is too vague and makes it sound like there is a choice as to whether they are followed or not.

QT - Debra Beheler wrote:
>
>
Set me up for them, I will see what I can do, all have extensive breaks in the links...

I assume as caretakers we are supposed to start fixing? (If we can).
Jeff

--

Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG



"In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general
government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter
cannot exist without them."

-- Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833)

Reference: Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 191.
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Sheri is taking Decatur. That leaves Owen, Ripley and Rush. These four are posted on the Orphan County page.

Just let me know which county. I'm here. Late tonight, sorry.
Sheri

Which ever is convenient for you. Jeff

QT - Debra Beheler wrote:
>
>


--

Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG



"In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general
government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter
cannot exist without them."

-- Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833)

Reference: Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 191.
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I heard from Gerhard today. He reassigned these county sites to me

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~indecatu/indecatu.html - last update Mar 5 2007
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~inowen/owenindx.html - last update June 30 2007
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~inripley/ - last update Aug 5 2006
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~inrush/ - last update Mar 7 2007

In addition I have reassigned Blackford which was last updated Jan 28, 2008

If there is one you would like to babysit, let me know and I will send you the password.

7 are on RW. 3 on a private server. 1 on INGW and one updated the link in the past few days. I can probably get the RW sites turned over to me if there has been no activity in the past 6 months. I will email Gerhard to check on that.

I don't mind baby sitting. are these on INGenWeb.org or elsewhere? If elsewhere we would probably have to start from scratch.

Jeff

QT - Debra Beheler wrote:
>
>


--

Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG



"In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general
government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter
cannot exist without them."

-- Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833)

Reference: Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 191.
< replied-to message removed by QT >

I'll be glad to help. 12 is a lot! Just let me know.
I always add the subs name to the page, and if they let me I add a clickable email to them. Some don't want email, some do. I'll start adding dates.


On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:56 PM, QT - Debra Beheler <
qtopic-42-gr6sPnTbNCt@quicktopic.com> wrote:


--
Sheri^..^
Jackson Co. INGenWeb Coordinator
http://www.ingenweb.org/injackson/
Jackson Co. Blog
http://jacksoncountyindiana.blogspot.com/
Jackson County INGenWeb Mailing List
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JacksonCountyIndiana/

In regards to the "last updated" posted on the index page, I really don't weigh that heavily when I evaluate a web site. I would like the CCs to put a date of first posting or update on new or updated pages. I often use the site search engine and search for 2008. If there are no dates on any of the pages, that is not helpful at all. I would also like source citations and credit given to contributors.

Right now I have 12 counties that still have a non working email address for the SC on the main page. I really hate the thought of trying to replace CCs for 12 counties all at once, but I have strong feelings that emails may not be answered and nothing else is being updated either. There are probably a few that are flying under the radar because they do the bare minimum. I think each of you serves on the website assistance committee. Would you each like to take a couple of counties temporarily? Actually I do have a new CC for one county who just had cataract surgery and wants to start about Oct 3. I think he will be an awesome CC.

QT - JacksonCounty wrote:
>
>
The One-line code or the Javascript? I am sure in each case that when the page loads in the server, that code is executed, both Grab the last modified date (last upload date) of the loading page and display it. (reloading a page via ftp rewrites the file unless your ftp client skips files that have a more recent date of upload than the creation date of the uploaded doc, and also make sure your time zones settings are correct, other wise a page that has been edited more than once in that day, may not get updated on the site.

--

Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG



"In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general
government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter
cannot exist without them."

-- Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833)

Reference: Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 191.
< replied-to message removed by QT >

The code does not work in an SSI file. You must put it on the page. I have it up on my front/home page. Does it need to be prominent? My stat counter does work in an SSI file. Wonder what the difference is? hmmm.

Oh me of little faith, huh? :o) I know you can't fix that one.
Unfortunately that one is the one that makes the biggest impression on the users.

I can think of now way to tell if a CC is answering user emails, unless you pose a query for them to answer, and unless you are seriously looking for that answer that would be wasting their time.

Somethings have to be taken on faith and promises.


Jeff

QT - JacksonCounty wrote:
>
>


--

Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG



"In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general
government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter
cannot exist without them."

-- Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833)

Reference: Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 191.
< replied-to message removed by QT >

You don't have to change anything? Someone had told me when I was at rootsweb that I would have to take away a period to get it to change. I'll never remember that. I usually update late at night and go to bed, so I will forget to upload an index. But, thinking about it, I probably change the index at least once a month. So that would be ok for me.
But I don't think that would work for all CC's. It won't tell if they are answering emails. Or really updating anything. So the update could only be one part of it all.
I think according to the emails from the group, the majority of responses were in favor of the page updater. So that is probably a go, right?
A site must have a page updater that shows activity within the last -------. (month?)
I would love to hear the Boss' opinion of what are good indicators and what she consinders a 'dead' site.

QT - JacksonCounty wrote:
> --QT--------------------------------------------------

The page update code just won't work. I have a lot of data that
once up is not touched again. >>

My suggestion was to put the code on your "front" link page, and whenever you update the site, just send in a reupload of the front page. (Changed or not, the date in the javascript will "update".
Jeff


--

Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG



"In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general
government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter
cannot exist without them."

-- Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833)

Reference: Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 191.

Are we trying to come up with the requirements to remove a CC, or for all CC's?
Responding to a Roll Call needs to be a requirement and one worthy of removal if you don't respond within a given time period. 3 months was mentioned and that is ample time to know that the CC is not going to respond. I know that there were offers of help in 'babysitting' a site for those that needed time off. That is comforting to me to know I can take the time if I need it and not have to give up my county or worry about what is going on. I believe that perhaps if we know we are going to be gone for a certain time over so many weeks, it should be required that we notify the SC?
Having a dead email, or perhaps not responding to more than one email from the SC or ASC.
What is more important? Adding lots of data or helping others with their research as best you can.
I think if the SC is getting complaints about a CC or site, that should be good cause for removal after looking into the complaints or having so many.
The page update code just won't work. I have a lot of data that once up is not touched again.
Well the discussion is at least started.
Sheri